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maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Mon, 8th Mar '10 9:45 AM

MOST RECENT QUIZZES LIST

I think we should rename it The Frankielaine72 Quiz List!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 8th Mar '10 9:53 AM

It's Tuzilla's new profile.

nelly
Nelly  (Level: 172.0 - Posts: 1167)
Mon, 8th Mar '10 10:37 AM

Perhaps FrankieLaine and Gerdieducks are having a competition. "Save your 'quizzes' for me" - I'll revisit in a week or so!

msastra
Msastra  (Level: 190.3 - Posts: 17)
Mon, 8th Mar '10 5:42 PM

I'm getting sick of it.

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 964)
Mon, 8th Mar '10 7:50 PM

Its useless to keep on writing quizzes anymore. as soon as a quiz gets posted "most recent" BOOM! the whole page consists of FrankieLaine and Gerdieducks. WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!



irishpainter
Irishpainter  (Level: 156.2 - Posts: 224)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 3:18 AM

The flood of quizzes by Frankielaine and Gerdieducks should be monitored by the editors and they should only release them in spits and spats not to have the whole most recent quizzes page dominated by just two people

caramel1
Caramel1  (Level: 128.3 - Posts: 21602)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 4:00 AM

I remember in 1.0 you could only have ONE quiz on the most recent list. I used to write many of them and had to time their release so I did not bump myself off. There was a most popular list in 1.0 aand you could have many there. Belueve several pluxssses were lost with the arrival of 2.0

Tresayre
Tresayre  (Level: 81.6 - Posts: 362)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 6:56 AM

Thank goodness Maurlin has had the sense to bring this topic up. I've been quite put off by this barrage of quizzes and have complained about it, but it seems nothing can be done.
I don't want to write quizzes at the moment because of this situation and feel like I'm having withdrawal symptoms.
Sploofus has been one of the things that has kept me going while my husband has been ill, but I am really not enjoying it at the moment.
Two players have absolutely taken the pleasure out of it for me!
So I will sit back for a while and write the odd quiz, but its simply not worth my while to spend hours researching a topic, writing the quiz then see it last for a very short while in that list of 50 quizzes.
Personally, I think those two players are extremely selfish.

scrabq
Scrabq  (Level: 76.7 - Posts: 167)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 7:25 AM

I am also rather cheezed off. I have taken some of their quizzes, and they are ones that you can reel off in five minutes from a list. And what a list Frankielaine72 has - 100 songs from each year plus a couple of "worth mentioning", for at least 40 years, that's 4000+ songs, 400 quizzes. Plus he's gone on to Road to the Oscars now, another 100 or so quizzes.

I took him to task about it and got nowhere.

And I also wrote to Gerdieducks and got the same sort of response. The wondrous thing was that he said he had no control over the editing of quizzes. I asked him if he ever slept and he said he did.

The editors can do nothing. Eqitriv tried and they said their hands were tied. That the quizzes conform to Sploofus requirements and so they can't refuse them.

I agree with several of the posts here, that those of us who write interesting quizzes, and I do sometimes, we just will stop writing and let the two of them take over. I know some of my quizzes are not written for general consumption - the anagram ones, particularly - and they are only taken by 20 or so people, but those people have often written to me to say that they enjoy them because they give their brain a workout. It takes me a lot of sweat to compose those quizzes. I have stopped while the barrage is on. I can sense brains shrivelling up all over the place from lack of a workout.

I fear we can do nothing until they run out of material. Or is it any use all of us writing to them asking them to be fair and only put up two or three quizzes a day?

I think it's beyond me.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 280.2 - Posts: 6643)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 10:02 AM

In sploofus 1.0 I think when you had a second quiz on the top 50 list they were combined together and when you clicked the name you saw both.
Let's go back to that please!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 10:51 AM

Good idea, Barry. But for now I just take them and rate them a one. It helps ease the pain.

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.6 - Posts: 1391)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 11:20 AM

Eqitriv's Random Knowledge 27 (a very fine quiz) was on the second page after less than 14 hours. That is interesting. The only way for the editors to act is to move the quizzes along as they are launched. We did have a period when it took three days to get a quiz published. The Editors deserve high praise for keeping the waiting list short.

Returning to the idea that each author only gets one quiz on the first page is great. Only Justin can do that. I am posting on the appropriate venue in hopes that Mr. Sploofus will include this idea on his very long list.

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 11:32 AM

Oh no. I've just started my "1 Million Favorite Baby Names" Series. I was getting ready to launch Part 1 in the series "Aa-Ab"

irishpainter
Irishpainter  (Level: 156.2 - Posts: 224)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 4:56 PM

Just as I type one of our fellow sploofus members has ten quizzes out of the twenty in the most recent quiz list. Come on now editors enough is enough already

scrabq
Scrabq  (Level: 76.7 - Posts: 167)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 5:08 PM

And as I write, a total of 40 people have attempted the ten quizzes. Maybe many Sploofusers are getting fed up by staying away from them. Let's hope he gets the message soon.

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 964)
Tue, 9th Mar '10 7:52 PM

I quit taking their quizzes hoping they will get the message........ NOT!
WHATEVER!!!!!!!

buchanan
Buchanan  (Level: 81.3 - Posts: 339)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 1:35 AM

mitchy,I agree,kathy

didb72
Didb72  (Level: 210.0 - Posts: 243)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 7:33 AM

The website motto should be quality over quantity....

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.6 - Posts: 1391)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 10:54 AM

I received a nice note worth everyone's attention.


"Thank you for contacting Sploofus Support.

We have been discussing this situation in detail for several days and are continuing this discussion this very minute. Your suggestion is a good one and we will forward it on to Justin.
And thanks to you for so kindly recognizing our efforts too.
Best Regards,
The Sploofus Support Team"

We who have been here in many throes of difficulty know that often the editors work in obscurity, yet productively.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 10:57 AM

Maybe if you all quit complaining and write some quizzes there will be more variety on the list, even if they pass through quickly. These are far from the first list quizzes here, there are dozens, maybe hundreds of 1 to 1000 list series, why are these any different? Lots of takers like the quick song and movie title quizzes, I racked up gadjillions of points on them when I was new.

Maybe these people are *competing*. Maybe they're trying to build up points and make their way up the rankings to where you are. Maybe they'll burn out or give up because of all the hostility. I don't get it. It's not like the most recent list is the only way to find quizzes. I search out the kinds of quizzes I like and rarely use the most recent list.

vanya99
Vanya99  (Level: 169.1 - Posts: 22)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 4:21 PM

FWIW, eqitrv and Scrabq, I really enjoy your quizzes and hope you keep writing them. Just want to add my voice to the chorus of those complaining about the recent spamming of quizzes.

lynnm
Lynnm  (Level: 226.5 - Posts: 1952)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 4:32 PM

I usually go to the profiles of the quiz writers I like and take their quizzes. Sometimes I go to the categories I like and find quizzes that sound interesting that way.

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.3 - Posts: 5488)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 6:10 PM

I totally agree with Smoke on this one...
Vickie

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.5 - Posts: 7570)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 6:25 PM

I tend to agree with Smoke. I look for topics that interest me before taking a quiz; recent or not.

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 6:54 PM

I'm not anxious to go back to having only 1 quiz per author on the Most Recent Quizzes list. I remember back then trying to figure out the timing to launch a new quiz to replace a live quiz of mine only when it was about to go off the front page. I much prefer the way we have it now. I think it is up to the individual quiz writer to be reasonable and not launch a huge number of quizzes at one time. It's just a matter of courtesy. It's very likely that the new folks aren't aware of the impact it has on other quiz writers.

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 7:28 PM

They may have learned that if they write enough quizzes everybody else will quit writing. I doubt that was strategy, but competition-wise, it seems pretty effective.

scrabq
Scrabq  (Level: 76.7 - Posts: 167)
Wed, 10th Mar '10 8:02 PM

I like to compete and have done so successfully in the past. But there is no way I am going to write eight, ten or even five quizzes a day just to keep up. Sploofus is wonderful but it's not a 24-hour job.

frankielaine72
Frankielaine72  (Level: 3.5 - Posts: 30)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 12:52 AM

My enthusiasm for the site and the way I have embraced writing quizzes are apparently not received by all Sploofus members in the same light. I believe that only Justin will be able to solve this problem satisfactorily. As a Platinum member, there is no limit to the number of quizzes I may write, so I will continue doing so. I am not selfish in any way but only playing Sploofus the way I best know. Regarding the Most Recent Quiz List I can only ask what will happen to your quiz if all 74 196 Sploofus members submit a quiz, your quiz will stay on for as long as it takes an editor to edit the quiz. I don’t believe the solution is in me limiting my quizzes but rather in a system change. and yes I love to compete, that is what trivia is all about, or else why are we keeping score. I have joined Sploofus to make friends and be part of the Sploofus family not to make enemies, but if that’s going to be the case if I continue writing my quizzes so be it!

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 964)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 3:58 AM

Dude! Really It's just a respect thing..... You know consider other people and how they feel. Most of us have jobs so we can't write quizzes all day, every day. Get off of yourself already.
It's not ALL ABOUT YOU........Hello!

*Good Gawd Man*

jeannette
Jeannette  (Level: 110.8 - Posts: 1736)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 4:59 AM

i cant say anything because i chicken out of doing quizzes and proberly Frank will do less as the weeks go by
ive noticed when people first start doing them they tend to lots at first then settles down after a while
just my thoughts x

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 10:31 AM

Hey Frank- Why take the time to post a message here when you could be using it to write another quiz. Gerdieducks has gotten ahead of you. :')

didb72
Didb72  (Level: 210.0 - Posts: 243)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 2:43 PM

Something has just freaked me out. Frankielaine and Gerdieducks could be the same and only person

By the way by reading again this thread, each person has a point:
- the experienced quizz writers who have been here for a longtime The fable about the hare and the tortoise springs into my mind
- Frankielaine has a massive enthusiasm for Sploofus and we should encourage him not putting him off
- Smoke and Alvandy are right too, it is easy to get access to the quizzes you fancy.
- Mitchy is a bit cheezed off because someone is writing more music quizzes than her, nobody likes to be second best don't worry Mitchy you are still the first in our hearts.
Personally, I would like to see some of these quizzes being more original than simply being based on lists....

Tresayre
Tresayre  (Level: 81.6 - Posts: 362)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 5:33 PM

I agree with Didb72. I think the quizzes need to be more original, less list type quizzes.
When I first started writing quizzes one of the editors complained my quizzes were too much like pub quizzes and so I tried to improve them. When I write mixed question quizzes my questions tend to be more direct, but if I research a topic and write on that my questions might be longer.
My biggest gripe at the moment is there are so many quizzes of the same type all released at once. So all you can see on the page is the title of the quiz with for example numbers 1-10 after it eg 'Foreign Words That We Accepted 2' and successive quizzes with the same title now up to 12.
I am not saying don't write the successive quizzes, just not all at once. There needs to be more variety.
But above all I think there needs to be a bit of respect (as Mitchy says), when it comes to other players and letting others have a fair go.
Its better to write 1 quiz and have over a hundred people take it that to write 10 quizzes and have only a handful take them.


mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 964)
Thu, 11th Mar '10 8:40 PM

OMG! Didier I was thinking the same thing!

joee
Joee  (Level: 156.3 - Posts: 255)
Fri, 12th Mar '10 5:41 AM

If FrankieLaine and Gerdieducks are writing these quizzes to be competitive they should soon find out that the only way to win big points is with wager tokens and showdowns.....we hope.

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Fri, 12th Mar '10 6:35 AM

Well, while we wait (or not wait) to see what unfolds, perhaps this would be a grand time to participate in the Tournament rounds.

edgycater
Edgycater  (Level: 194.1 - Posts: 27)
Sun, 14th Mar '10 6:09 PM

A daily limit would seem reasonable. To me, allowing an individual three or four quizzes a day would be generous enough. It used to be possible to have a general interest quiz or pop culture quiz taken by 80-100 people or more. Now, one is lucky to pull 35 takers while it is on the most recent list. I don't want to use the word "selfish" as some have, but I would call the behavior immature. As someone pointed out, writing easy quizzes to be taken by ten people is not a very efficient way to build points. Frankielaine mentioned that he is competitive, but I am not really sure what he is competing for or against. Ditto Gerdieducks.

A few people have pointed out that folks can search for quizzes in ways other than clicking on the "most recent." That is true, but not the point. Obviously, most people go to "most recent" first. The majority of takers for any quiz come from that initial appearance. Hopefully, Justin will consider a reasonable limit.

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 964)
Mon, 15th Mar '10 1:32 AM

I have asked both of them nicely in a pm to slow down. I also stressed the fact that it was a respect thing and consideration of other people here. If it dont stop or slow down we know they could care less about anyone else here!

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 15th Mar '10 1:37 AM

I'm not really much of a quiz writer, so perhaps I shouldn't speak up, but I thought frankie made some good points in his/her post. Though I understand the respect issue in absence of a system change, and it's true, only wagering and showdowns really make a big diff on this game.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 280.2 - Posts: 6643)
Mon, 15th Mar '10 2:36 AM

I'm strongly of the opinion (as a former regular quiz setter) that however irritating it might be to have your quiz vanish under a deluge, and there've been times when I've moaned about it in the past, it is entirely within the rights of the two players concerned to write quizzes.
They are having a tremendous race and clearly enjoying it. I'd like the problem fixed in the manner described above but failing that, grow up people!
If all else fails, maybe stop writing quizzes till next month?

Barry

jerrys
Jerrys  (Level: 190.9 - Posts: 334)
Mon, 15th Mar '10 8:57 AM

There is also the question of which is better - quality or quantity? I much prefer quality.

I've taken a couple of quizzes by each of these authors. I won't be taking any more. I much prefer well though out, unique quizzes over the cookie cutter ones these two are dishing out. Even I could do those.

It's exactly why I haven't submitted any quizzes, even though I'm a Platinum member also. I've tried in the past, but none have been what I consider to be on par with those I see from most other authors.

So no, I don't appreciate these quizzes. Nor do I appreciate the lack of respect these two authors show.



msastra
Msastra  (Level: 190.3 - Posts: 17)
Tue, 16th Mar '10 7:52 PM

At least with Frank's quizzes it's possible to test your memory and score a few points. I loathe Gerdieduck's quizzes. They aren't enjoyable at all. I wish he/she/it would go play somewhere else.

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Wed, 17th Mar '10 6:28 PM

Don't mean to beat a dead duck, uh..I mean horse, but someone must have taken my comment seriously about doing a "1 Million Favorite Baby Names" series, starting with "Aa-Ab". I see that a new series has started that now includes "General Letter Quiz On The Letter A (7)". I wonder if a number series will start after "Z" is milked for all it's worth. :l

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 280.2 - Posts: 6643)
Wed, 17th Mar '10 10:06 PM

Just did a perfectly respectable quiz by Gertieducks on the letter C.
I think we all need to take a step back and remain calm ladies and germs....just because you dont like the author does not mean the quizzes have to be bad.

Garrybl

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Wed, 17th Mar '10 10:20 PM

Never met or had interaction with the author, so no dislike or like. Actually, I think the type of quizzes going live now may be an indication of how we all should start writing. As soon as I have time I'm going to do the same.

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Thu, 18th Mar '10 2:19 AM

My last quiz was submitted over four months ago on November 9, 2009. I enjoyed constructing quizzes for the educational value in researching, although not every quiz fell into the caliber of needing research! I enjoyed the anticipation while awaiting an editor's response advising the quiz was "now live". It was most enjoyable viewing how well each individual quiz was received by players. However, I also enjoyed the friendly competition amongst prolific authors and watching the daily movement of the leaderboard placement, numbers and percentages. So why did I cease writing and submitting quizzes? Simply stated, the fun of the competition went away. It was no longer a matter of who would be and/or remain in the top ten. Instead, the leaderboard became a battleground for first and second position and occasionally third, with numbers impossible to reach, much like Gertieducks and Frankielaine72. With all due respect to my fellow former and current authors, the board has always been monopolized by a select group of authors.

scrabq
Scrabq  (Level: 76.7 - Posts: 167)
Thu, 18th Mar '10 2:49 AM

I have just written specifically to Justin outlining many of our concerns about the Most Recent board. I suggested there be a limit of three quizzes per author per day. That would give at least seven authors a chance if they post the maximum. I feel the benefit to players will be greater. At the moment, if you are not really interested in music and if you have been turned off the multitudes of quizzes by the big three, there is only one quiz you can take - a Shakespeare quiz - and that is not always everyone's cup of tea or coffee.

I really regret that there is no variety in the Most Recent quizzes. As a consequence, there is no spice any more.

didb72
Didb72  (Level: 210.0 - Posts: 243)
Thu, 18th Mar '10 6:33 AM

I tried to take some quizzes yesterday, the board was dominated by the same three quiz writers with some meaningless quizzes. Two of them were the subjects of two previous threads. It has become clear that the bombardment of quizzes by the same writers is not only undermining themselves by writing meaningless quizzes in order to keep up the number of submission but it is undermining sploofus by driving the punters away. However, when a writer starts to get a reputation of writing meaningless quizzes, the reputation will stick to the writer for ages.
I fully agree with my Sploofus friend Scrabq that limiting the number of quizzes per day for a writer is the way forward. Lately, the website has lost at least two good writers with Tuzilla and Clevercloggs, just to remind everybody we don't need to lose more by letting the quiz writing board dominated in such way.

ladyvol
Ladyvol  (Level: 205.3 - Posts: 5488)
Thu, 18th Mar '10 8:31 AM

Well, I guess I won't be writing my 50 states/50 songs quizzes then...some on here may get upset if I did that.
Vickie


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