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jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 16th Mar '10 9:43 PM

LOST 3-16-10

Ooooooooooooo...poor smoke monster.......had a crazy mother.

My heart bleeds - doesn't yours?

I can't wait to find out what's up with that thing.

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Tue, 16th Mar '10 10:20 PM

Flocke has a crazy mother...well, I guess that's a subtle way of saying he's human. Although, I don't know how he can be human and a smoke monster at the same time.

James Ford is a detective in the parallel life but still vows to kill the man responsible for his parents deaths (who happens to be Locke's father, Anthony Cooper.)

Okay. So who's the bad guy, Smoke Monster/Flocke, Widmore, Jacob? Those seem to be the key ring leaders. Flocke and Jacob appear to be either not human or possess amazing power. Widmore appears to be completely mortal and I suspect is motivated by greed.

And Sawyer and Kate are going to escape on Widmore's sub?

What I'm looking forward is to next week when we get Richard Alpert's back story. It's implied he shipwrecked on the island on the Black Rock ship which puts him at over 100 years old.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Tue, 16th Mar '10 10:25 PM

I am too!

What would cause a human to be become a smoke monster?

The flash sideways really isn't working for me. As you guys said before, it's not JUST what would have happened if the flight had landed safely. So much is different. Who would ever have seen it coming that Sawyer was a cop????

Ok - do you want Jack or Sawyer to end up with Kate? Or neither?

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Wed, 17th Mar '10 9:55 AM

Jack. There's chemistry between Sawyer and Kate, but I've always hoped Jack and Kate would be together.

However, they tried it once when they were off the island, and it didn't work - guilt eating at Jack and Kate fiercely protective of Aaron. Now that those two circumstances have changed, maybe it would work.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 17th Mar '10 10:33 AM

I have to admit I'd rather keep Sawyer for myself.

But......stupid writers ignore my phonecalls, emails, and submitted screenplays!

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Wed, 17th Mar '10 11:32 PM

I personally liked the way he cleaned up as a police detective.

lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Thu, 18th Mar '10 6:25 AM

That's one thing I don't like about this 'flash sideways' (as the screenwriters themselves are calling it) format. So far, most things seem to be as they should have progressed if the plane never crashed but... Jack is a father? Sawyer is a cop? As far as I was aware, neither were such BEFORE the plan crashed on the island. OR.. they were, and we were just never privy to this information? I don't buy it.. almost like a whole season is a dream (Dallas anyone? lol).

A little dissapointed with these turns of events.

Oh well.. 8 more episodes and all will be clear.. all will be answered .... we hope! lol

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Thu, 18th Mar '10 4:28 PM

That's what bugs me, too, Lisa. I think the "split" in time occurred before the Oceanic 815 flight. I think the "split" goes back to when these people were touched by Jacob. It's possible that parallel lives have been happening all along, and the death of Jacob will somehow close the gap.

Do any of you read Alan Sepinwall's blog "What's Alan Watching?" I think he's a reporter for a New Jersey paper, anyway, you can see his latest post on this week's "LOST."

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/03/lost-recon-middleman.html

Toward the middle of the blog is this intriguing theory (that he related from another writer):

I think the alt-present scenes are an attempt to show what each character's true nature is, absent any situation where the island draws them more towards either Smokey or Jacob.

That moment where Smokey picked up the white rock off the scale and tossed it out the door is more fuel for this theory -- they pick people who are perfectly balanced between "bad" and "good" and bring them to the island as a sort of laboratory to determine which of those forces wins out in the end. So the events that are occurring in the island-present are the "result" (though not really, obviously, in the causal sense) of the alt-futures, wherein we are seeing that left to their own devices, each of these people tilts slightly to one side of the good/evil equation.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Fri, 19th Mar '10 11:59 PM

That's what my son came up with. The flash sideways is what would have happened to them had Jacob not touched their lives.

lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 12:25 AM

Ok but what about those characters who's lives are progressing as the (may or) would have just prior to the crash? Kate's story was still the same - she was an aprehended fujitive on the flight with the US Marshall. Why wasn't her life different since the Jacob encounter?.. and Claire, etc. I'm really having a hard time believing some lives went in a whole different direction from the day the met Jacob and others' didn't.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.1 - Posts: 1302)
Wed, 24th Mar '10 1:12 PM

Okay, that's what I've been saying all along. It's what would have happened had Jacob not touched them. In the flash sidesways, Kate asked Claire if she would believe her is she said she was innocent. Now, they haven't gone into it more, but what if she is innocent in that timeline? That would mean her life did have a significant change. Only now she's being pursued and she's innocent.

Not being touched by Jacob changed their lives but not in huge enough ways that they weren't all in Australia, or on flight 815. Hurley still won the lottery. Jack is still a doctor. Etc.

lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Sun, 28th Mar '10 3:48 AM

Right but Jack's a father, Sawyer's a cop, Hurley is lucky lol


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