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Nicely done, Sploofishy!

Diffucult one! But a very interesting and challenging puzzle.

Kind of makes me glad I'm never among the monthly leaders. Hope it was fun.

But I was also having the same problem as Collioure with the clues..........my over/unders seemed back to front

Apart from that I really, really enjoyed solving it.

A big thank you to Sploofishy, very clever.

May we hear from the author and/or editor explaining an example where the math seems to be backwards?

Ken, I think we were too polite.

I'm going to stomp my feet until we get some attention.

I'm going to stomp my feet until we get some attention.

Challenging puzzle indeed , but worth the effort to get my brain in gear again.

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**Sploofishy**(Editor)

**Sat, 20th Mar '10 4:42 PM**

Not that this really matters since it was a level playing field for all, but here is how the math worked in the puzzle. I did not perceive that one could easily flip the incorrect answer given in the phrases for the correct mathematical answer (gee, that's not confusing at all, is it?). This accounts for the over/under confusion some had.

bowled perfectly plus sesqui centennial equals fahrenheit four fifty one ("Sum 1over (wrds 4&5 = 1 wrd)")

300 + 150 = 451 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 450

fox networks twenty four divided by blackbirds in a pie equals tea for two ("Quotient over by 1")

24/24 = 2 The given quotient is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 1

bakers dozen plus us flag stripes equals silver wedding anniversary ("Sum short by 1")

13 + 13 = 25 The given sum is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 26

first odd prime number times ten commandments equals baskin robbins flavors ("Product over by 1")

3 * 10 = 31 The given product is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 30

magnesiums atomic number minus mount rushmore heads equals the film seven ("Difference under by 1")

12 - 4 = 7 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 8

harry potter books minus books in the pentateuch equals a trilogy ("Difference over by 1")

7 - 5 = 3 The given difference is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 2

route sixty six divided by six pack abs equals number ten downing street ("Quotient under by 1")

66/6 = 10 The given quotient is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 11

vicks formula forty four times pepsi one equals colt forty five revolver ("Product over by 1")

44 * 1 = 45 The given product is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 44

four score and seven years plus thirty rock equals hundred years war length ("Sum over by 1 (no, not 17)")

87 + 30 = 117 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 116

worlds longest surname minus fictional phone prefix equals miracle street ("Difference under by 1")

600 - 555 = 34 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 35

I hope that this clears things up - although given the nature of people, mathematics, and the interaction between the two, I doubt that that will be the case.

But then, it's supposed to be a puzzle, isn't it?

bowled perfectly plus sesqui centennial equals fahrenheit four fifty one ("Sum 1over (wrds 4&5 = 1 wrd)")

300 + 150 = 451 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 450

fox networks twenty four divided by blackbirds in a pie equals tea for two ("Quotient over by 1")

24/24 = 2 The given quotient is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 1

bakers dozen plus us flag stripes equals silver wedding anniversary ("Sum short by 1")

13 + 13 = 25 The given sum is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 26

first odd prime number times ten commandments equals baskin robbins flavors ("Product over by 1")

3 * 10 = 31 The given product is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 30

magnesiums atomic number minus mount rushmore heads equals the film seven ("Difference under by 1")

12 - 4 = 7 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 8

harry potter books minus books in the pentateuch equals a trilogy ("Difference over by 1")

7 - 5 = 3 The given difference is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 2

route sixty six divided by six pack abs equals number ten downing street ("Quotient under by 1")

66/6 = 10 The given quotient is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 11

vicks formula forty four times pepsi one equals colt forty five revolver ("Product over by 1")

44 * 1 = 45 The given product is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 44

four score and seven years plus thirty rock equals hundred years war length ("Sum over by 1 (no, not 17)")

87 + 30 = 117 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 116

worlds longest surname minus fictional phone prefix equals miracle street ("Difference under by 1")

600 - 555 = 34 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 35

I hope that this clears things up - although given the nature of people, mathematics, and the interaction between the two, I doubt that that will be the case.

But then, it's supposed to be a puzzle, isn't it?

Though that was all window dressing. I don't think it cost me any moves. More troubling for my score was the fact that the first puzzle I got (when I was still learning what was going on) was the "sesquicentennial" one, in which the two word warning caused the clue to only be able to fit "sum 1 over", which was far more cryptic than "sum over by 1".

**Sploofishy**(Editor)

**Sat, 20th Mar '10 7:00 PM**

Yes, yes it does.

**Sploofunky**(Editor)

**Sat, 20th Mar '10 7:40 PM**

Just to clarify, it looks like the world's longest surname contains 590 letters. See, for example:

So, the math for that phrase would be: 590 - 555 = 34. The given difference is under by one since the correct answer should be 35.

We hope that helps!

__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfe%2B585,_Senior__So, the math for that phrase would be: 590 - 555 = 34. The given difference is under by one since the correct answer should be 35.

We hope that helps!

That guy's last name is German.

Surely there's a Welshman with one twice as long ...

Surely there's a Welshman with one twice as long ...

bowled perfectly plus sesquicentennial equals Fahrenheit four fifty one ("Sum 1over (wrds 4&5 = 1 wrd)")

300 + 150 = 451 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 450

I would say the given sum is under by one.

magnesiums atomic number minus mount rushmore heads equals the film seven ("Difference under by 1")

12 - 4 = 7 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 8

I would say the given difference is over by one.

harry potter books minus books in the pentateuch equals a trilogy ("Difference over by 1")

7 - 5 = 3 The given difference is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 2

I would say the given difference is under by one.

**Sploofishy**(Editor)

**Sat, 20th Mar '10 10:11 PM**

Thanks, Sploofunky! I mean I still screwed up, just in my faulty memory for what the numbers I was originally working with. I thought it would have been fitting anyway, since I did say that I was having Math Problems.

Collioure, I'm not following you. How is 451 (the given sum) 1 under 450 (the correct answer)?

I am operating off the following definitions of these mathematical functions, perhaps you are using the terminology differently

addition: addend + addend = sum

subtraction: minuend − subtrahend = difference

multiplication: factor x factor = product

division: dividend / divisor = quotient

Collioure, I'm not following you. How is 451 (the given sum) 1 under 450 (the correct answer)?

I am operating off the following definitions of these mathematical functions, perhaps you are using the terminology differently

addition: addend + addend = sum

subtraction: minuend − subtrahend = difference

multiplication: factor x factor = product

division: dividend / divisor = quotient

It's a matter of semantics when seeing "sum one too high" whether one will interpret that as "explicit sum one too high" or "implied actual sum one too high". I'd say both are justifiable.

bowled perfectly plus sesquicentennial equals Fahrenheit four fifty one ("Sum 1over (wrds 4&5 = 1 wrd)")

300 + 150 = 451 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 450

I would say the sum (not the given sum) is under by one. The sum is 450, the given sum is 451.

magnesiums atomic number minus mount rushmore heads equals the film seven ("Difference under by 1")

12 - 4 = 7 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 8

I would say the difference (not the given difference) is over by one. The difference is 7; the given difference is 8.

harry potter books minus books in the pentateuch equals a trilogy ("Difference over by 1")

7 - 5 = 3 The given difference is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 2

I would say difference (not the given difference) is under by one. The difference is 2; the given difference is 3.

The word "given" was not in the clues and that changes the meaning.

Once I got in the flow of where the author was going, the pattern made sense to me.

Let me try this one more time. I should not have used the word "given" as it did not appear in the clues.

bowled perfectly plus sesquicentennial equals Fahrenheit four fifty one ("Sum 1over (wrds 4&5 = 1 wrd)")

300 + 150 = 451 The given sum is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 450

I would say the sum (not the given sum) is under by one. The sum is 450, the given sum is 451.

magnesiums atomic number minus mount rushmore heads equals the film seven ("Difference under by 1")

12 - 4 = 7 The given difference is under by 1 since the correct answer should be 8

I would say the difference (not the given difference) is over by one. The difference is 8; the given difference is 7.

harry potter books minus books in the pentateuch equals a trilogy ("Difference over by 1")

7 - 5 = 3 The given difference is over by 1 since the correct answer should be 2

I would say difference (not the given difference) is under by one. The difference is 2; the given difference is 3.

The word "given" was not in the clues and that changes the meaning.

Collioure(Level: 106.9 - Posts: 9952)Thu, 18th Mar '10 6:50 PMI'M HAVING MATH PROBLEMS WPI had fun with this, but I was having math problem's two . Well, actually five. Every clue that said over or under seemed to be the opposite.