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f5laur
F5laur  (Level: 31.1 - Posts: 823)
Sat, 20th Mar '10 8:55 PM

NOW THEY'RE ALL COMING OUT...YIKES!

First Donna Simpson.
Next, Kirsten Alley's BIG Life!


smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sat, 20th Mar '10 9:43 PM

Ever have a problem with your weight, Laurie? I do. It's the last acceptable prejudice. I think that's a shame. Fat people have feelings, too.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 20th Mar '10 11:07 PM

Ain't it the truth!

jerrys
Jerrys  (Level: 190.9 - Posts: 334)
Sat, 20th Mar '10 11:27 PM

I resemble that remark!

mickeym
Mickeym  (Level: 88.2 - Posts: 1803)
Sat, 20th Mar '10 11:40 PM

I do, Smoke, but it isn't the last acceptable prejudice, it's the first of many prejudices against unhealthy behaviors, like drinking and smoking. Trouble is, it shows! Have a gambling addiction and only your accountant knows, even drug addiction can be hidden, but self-medicate with food.....
Oh well, I've found the cure. Come to Texas where every other person is medically obese, and I feel positively svelte!

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 11:32 AM

Ever suspect that Kirsty might be playing this fat/thin thing for profit? I think she has discovered a perfect way to make big bucks and stay in the spotlight. I have been on the weight roller coaster since '71 but unfortunately I can't profit from it. I am overweight right now but I am not seeking self pity mainly because I don't give a rat's pooper what anyone thinks. I guess I am the most miserable when I am thin and hungry. LOL!

f5laur
F5laur  (Level: 31.1 - Posts: 823)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 12:03 PM

I never allowed myself to have a weight problem. I have much more class, self esteem, and dignaty than to get to that point.
Hurt feeling just proves the opposite of one's self!
What IS sad is that people allow themselves to become overweight, then gripe about it, with such low values.
'Nuff said!

chender
Chender  (Level: 193.7 - Posts: 160)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 12:08 PM

Have you ever wondered why you think that way? It sounds quite sad to me.

I have a good friend who's gained 7 stone during a recent nervous breakdown - she's still exactly the same person she was before her weight gain, just bigger!

smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 12:31 PM

"I never allowed myself to have a weight problem. I have much more class, self esteem, and dignaty than to get to that point."

But not enough class and "dignaty" not to make fun of other people with weight problems.

I never had a problem with my weight until I injured my back. I went from 135 pounds with a very physical job and a high level of activity, to being flat on my back for three months, and I gained 40 pounds. I've been trying to get rid of it for almost 20 years and it just keeps getting harder by the year as I'm able to be less and less active as my spine and joints continue to disintegrate. Some of my medications also cause weight gain.

To make a blanket statement that being overweight is the result of lack of class, self-esteem and dignity is viciously unkind.




donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 12:51 PM

F5 might not have allowed herself to have a weight problem but she certainly has allowed for one in tact and self-righteousness.

amyt
Amyt  (Level: 134.8 - Posts: 240)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 12:54 PM

Wow! You have some real issues with overweight/obese people, Laurie. Your comments on the New Jersey woman were offensive and cruel. I almost feel sorry for you.
Real class comes from within. I have known many "classy" and dignified people who don't conform to your perfect standards. They would never think of treating others/saying things like this. What makes you so special that you're entitled to be so mean to others? Why does someone else's weight bother you so much? How does their weight directly impact you?

headylamar
Headylamar  (Level: 150.7 - Posts: 740)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 12:56 PM

Oh Laurie,

I was so disappointed reading your post. I had you figured as someone who was tolerant and understanding of others. I was a 'skinny minny' until I was 50 and encountered some very serious health issues. (Major disk, thyroid and cardiac tool) So here I am at 63 with a 30 pound weight gain. Smokey-girl, I am with ya. Aside from being a little pissed about all this health business, I'm okay with who I am and happy as hell to wake up everyday! Your attitude reminds me of a woman I used to be friends with. I'm happy for you both that you've never had an issue with your weight. However, as I explained to her when she wondered why I looked so much younger than she, even though I was 8 years older. "Listen girlfriend, it's a good man, fat and Max Factor! Never underestimate the power of any of these!"

lynnm
Lynnm  (Level: 226.7 - Posts: 1954)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 1:39 PM

I hear you, HeadyLamar. Hitting menopause and the 50s sent me up the scale and it's been a real struggle to get the weight off. I still have some to lose, but recent successes have kept me disciplined enough to continue on the same path. However I do know that meds for my rheumatoid arthritis contributed to the gain, in addition to the painfulness of exercise. I used to be one of those people who never had to think about weight gain, but I hope never felt or exhibited any superiority because of it. A lot of times, weight has nothing to do with discipline, but with genetics, injury or disease. There isn't anything to be gained by comparing one's weight or level of discipline to other people; there is a lot to be gained by supporting good health in those you love.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 2:45 PM

We all seem to be on the same page. Menopause is a cruel hoax isn't it? It changes us in such diabolical ways. I fight with my weight all the time. I have class, dignity and self esteem, probably enough confidence to share with a room full of people. Between all that's come along since I hit 50, sometimes I feel I can't win! It's good to vent and see that I'm not alone. Thanks, ladies and gentlemen.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 2:53 PM

There's also people, like me, who are so busy with work and kids through their 20's and 30's that they don't have much time to spend on exercising. Couple that with someone who never had a weight problem and continues to eat as if she doesn't, you get extra weight. Now that the kid is grown, the jobs are gone, and middle age has arrived, exercise and changes in eating habits are important, but hard to get a hang of.

mickeym
Mickeym  (Level: 88.2 - Posts: 1803)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 6:18 PM

MPLaw51, If you think menopause is the pits (as it is) I hope you never have to take any of the anti-estrogen meds! I'm very grateful for them, since it will be 10 years with no recurrence of cancer, but they are like a giant instant menopause! And if you try to lose weight while on them, it doubles their side effect...yikes. Oh well, maybe they'll take me off them and I'll have to look for some other excuse.

asor
Asor  (Level: 156.0 - Posts: 589)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 8:38 PM

Wow. I don't even know where to begin...so I guess I won't.

But WOW.

Seems like a mighty strange definition of "class."

lynnm
Lynnm  (Level: 226.7 - Posts: 1954)
Sun, 21st Mar '10 10:50 PM

Definitions of "class" from the Urban Dictionary, for your reading pleasure, enlightenment and entertainment.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=class

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Mon, 22nd Mar '10 7:42 AM

The tabloids have made so much money off of Kirstie's weight, it's about time she gets some of it. Good for her!

And Laurie, you have no class.

headylamar
Headylamar  (Level: 150.7 - Posts: 740)
Mon, 22nd Mar '10 9:12 AM

Barnie,
Why did you feel a need to say that? Listen, none of us knows what in Laurie's life may have contributed to her feelings about this subject. Maybe she's never had a problem with weight. (I used to be able to eat whatever I wanted and as much as I wanted.) Maybe she's anorexic. (That will most definitely skew your attitude about food.) Whatever they may be, that does not make her a b****. And what does a marital status have to do with it?
Sis

linenlady
Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Mon, 22nd Mar '10 10:32 AM

The issues around weight are so numerous, complicated and painful that to dismiss it with "lack of class" shows a shocking and incredible lack of compassion, kindness, empathy or humanity; but perhaps those virtues are not as important as "class".

summertime
Summertime  (Level: 111.0 - Posts: 1122)
Mon, 22nd Mar '10 11:18 AM

Uh oh....don't you just hate it when your crown slips to the left and/or you outgrow your shoes? :S


goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 7:41 AM

Hey Laurie! You just going to send me nasty PM's? Why don't you post them right here for people to see what you are really like? I was dead on....NO CLASS.

aristotle
Aristotle  (Level: 72.7 - Posts: 191)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 7:54 AM

At least Donna and Kirstie can lose weight, if they choose, but you can't do much about a bloated ego...

asor
Asor  (Level: 156.0 - Posts: 589)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 9:10 AM

Just stumbled across this, and it seemed to fit the earlier conversation.

"I took more hell for being fat than I did for being an absolute raging drug addict. I will never understand that." --Kelly Osbourne



smoke
Smoke  (Level: 96.7 - Posts: 12009)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 9:36 AM

How many young girls are starving themselves to death because they're terrified of the scorn of people who tell them they're "fat" when they may only be going through normal adolescent body changes? How many turn to drugs or bulimia or try to live on coffee and cigarettes to get that "classy" skeletal runway model look?

My next door neighbor has a beautiful 6-year-old daughter who already obsesses about everything that goes into her mouth because some bratty little bully in kindergarten called her fat. She's not. It's tragic the damage such thoughtless labelling and judging can do.

Laurie, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you spoke here in this insulting way without thinking. I'm asking that you just think about it a little more before saying such hurtful things to us chubbies, who would never dream of mocking you, should your illness cause you to lose weight.

aristotle
Aristotle  (Level: 72.7 - Posts: 191)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 9:46 AM

Right on, Smoke!

goddess28
Goddess28  (Level: 92.6 - Posts: 5236)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 11:34 AM

Right on Smoke!

asor
Asor  (Level: 156.0 - Posts: 589)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 12:59 PM

I couldn't agree more, Smoke. One thing that particularly sickens me is when parents permit--or even encourage--their young children to be cruel to other children who are overweight. A formerly thin friend of mine gained a lot of weight after being violently attacked by a stranger. A six-year-old relative of hers saw her one day and said, "You're getting so big you're going to need two mirrors!" His mother had the good sense to be embarrassed by it, but it was clear to everyone that he had learned the phrase from her--and that she thought it was perfectly all right to say behind someone's back.

And, oh, how I wish women would stop yammering about their need to lose weight in front of their children. Anyone who doesn't think that's having an effect on their children--particularly their young daughters--is ill-informed. Just keep it to yourself, model healthful eating, and give your children a chance to grow up without body issues and an unhealthy relationship with food.

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 1:16 PM

I worked with a skinny gal who was always saying she needed to lose 5 pounds. One day, I told her, "You know, when you say stuff like that in front of women who would like to lose more than 5 lbs, they all think 'b****' in their heads, don't you?" She just looked at me blankly.

I will grant you that the top killers in the US and UK are preventable and diet-related, but why is it okay to make fun of someone struggling with weight? They need education, compassion, help, love or something that will cause them to get healthier, not go home and cry into their ice cream.

Then, of course, there's the whole "he who is without sin" issue. Are any of those making fun of the overweight smokers? Drug users? Etc?

asor
Asor  (Level: 156.0 - Posts: 589)
Tue, 23rd Mar '10 9:39 PM


mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Wed, 24th Mar '10 6:17 AM

It's a sad truth. In my office we have a "sunshine club" that gives a small gift to any employee who undergoes any medical procedure that keeps them out of work or is hospitalized, etc. It's just a nice gesture. One of my staff got the lap band procedure done and I assumed the sunshine club would do what it normally does. Not this time my friends!! Since this was an elective procedure it was decided it was not "sunshine club worthy"...no gift. I expressed my opinion in a very strong manner, got in alot of hot water for that (I'm managment, not a good look!) and quit the damn club. It still atonishes me that women (yes, I'll place the blame for this one on women) can be so petty, self righteous and small minded. These same individuals are cooing over her and saying how wonderful she looks today. What duplicity...


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