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Garrybl  (Level: 294.3 - Posts: 6808)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 9:43 AM


As usual with a subject of this sort my ignorance was exposed but still very interesting and informative.

1mks  (Level: 221.2 - Posts: 5931)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 10:54 AM

My ignorance is exposed nearly daily. The way this puzzle was written was very precise and not as convoluted as some so whether you know a lot about the subject or not, it is still very doable. Thanks.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 10:55 AM

Admittedly I am no fan of Word Puzzles, probably haven't played one in a year or more, but as soon as I saw the subject matter, I had to play!! More please!! I'll play any of the philosophy to learn something new.

Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 12:46 PM

I haven't taken the WP yet, but I wanted to point out the wide, wide chasm between "celibate" and "unmarried." Just ask St. Augustine.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 12:49 PM

LOL Lamizell!!

Daveguth  (Level: 269.4 - Posts: 1636)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 1:24 PM

Lamizell, I think you fell into Barry's trap. Celibate originally meant "unmarried," and only gained the "abstaining from sexual intercourse" meaning during the last few centuries. Some grammarians (don't know if Barry is one) are a bit peeved that the meaning changed.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 1:33 PM

I'd never heard that Dave, but it must be true, just ask St. Augustine!!

M48ortal  (Level: 263.7 - Posts: 3850)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 4:16 PM

Reminds me of the story about the monastery where Biblical passages were copied laboriously by hand.

A new monk arrived at the monastery. He was assigned to help the other monks in copying the old texts by hand. He noticed, however, that they were copying copies, not the original books. The new monk went to the head monk to ask him about this. He pointed out that if there were an error in the first copy, that error would be continued in all of the other copies.

The head monk said, 'We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son.' The head monk went down into the cellar with one of the copies to check it against the original.

Hours later, nobody had seen him, so one of the monks went downstairs to look for him. He heard a sobbing coming from the back of the cellar and found the old monk leaning over one of the original books, crying.

He asked what was wrong.

'The word is 'celebrate,' not 'celibate'!' sobbed the head monk.

Garrybl  (Level: 294.3 - Posts: 6808)
Wed, 14th Apr '10 5:01 PM

Two monastic stories....

St Augustine's famous line: "Lord give me chastity, but not now".

And the monastic texts getting changed.

A line of Petronius is 'Ab asse crevit'. Translated as 'He created himself from a farthing, (or from nothing)'

The monk wrote down the line 'Abbas secrevit' meaning 'The Abbot pilfered it'.


Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Thu, 15th Apr '10 12:06 AM


Dave, my dad will be very happy to learn I'm celibate.

Collioure  (Level: 115.4 - Posts: 9952)
Thu, 15th Apr '10 4:49 AM

Just to confuse you further a celibataire is France is an unmarried person.

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