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Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4285)
Tue, 4th May '10 10:48 PM


Okay, I'm bummed about Sayid (although I suspected he wasn't long for this world" and Sun and Jin (I just knew that she would remind Jin that they had a daughter and that he should save himself to take care of her.)

Smokey is starting to remind me of Russell on "Survivor." Why does anyone trust anything he says?

Widmore seems to at least want to save the "six" from Smokey but he's willing to shoot Kate?

And the intriguing teaser about next week: white and black, two sides of a coin, who is good and who is evil. I don't think it is all one or the other. I think they're implying the good have a little bad in them and vice versa.

Exhibit A: Sayid told Jack before he sacrificed himself that he needed to rescue Desmond from the well. I thought Sayid had gone over to the dark side, but apparently he had at least one good deed left.

I'm wondering if Jack needs to rescue Desmond so Desmond in the other life will finish the job he started and kill Locke, thereby getting rid of the body that Smoke inhabits and trapping Smoke on the island so he can't contaminate the world.

With only three episodes left, I am losing hope that there will be a tie back to Aaron or Walt or that the purpose of Dharma will be explained.

I am holding out for a satisfying ending, but at this point, I'm not sure what that would be.

And where is Ben?

Fudypatootie  (Level: 205.8 - Posts: 1302)
Tue, 4th May '10 11:20 PM

I cried and cried. Then I told my husband that if we're trapped, he has to leave me because we have a daughter. Not that she's a baby (she's 20), but still...

I'm not feeling those happy endings anymore.

Yeah, where is Ben? And where's Richard? Maybe I've just forgotten what happened last time since it's been two weeks (thank you very much, ABC!).

I was never fully convinced that being "infected" meant completely turned (probably mostly because I always liked Sayid so much and wanted to believe in him). Seems to me that an infection can be eliminated with the right meds.

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4285)
Wed, 5th May '10 6:30 AM

I know what you mean about the happy ending.

I've been reading some blogs online that speculate that the island is hell and that smokey is cerberus, who was the gatekeeper to Hades keeping those who crossed over from going back.

If that is true, then it makes more sense when Smokey says he wants to go home, which means he wants to go back to Hell which would mean that th4e island really isn't hell. Maybe all these people are dead and ended up on this island as kind of a limbo place and were meant to go to hell. Smokey is there on the island to make sure they go back?

However, I could swear in Season 1 when this theory first came up that Cruse and Lindelof were emphatic that the people on the island were not dead and this was not limbo or pergatory.

Here is the link to cerberus in Wikipedia. It says that Hercules was released from his labors after capturing Cerberus alive. Could Jack be released from his labor of guilt by defeating Cerberus/Smokey?

Fudypatootie  (Level: 205.8 - Posts: 1302)
Wed, 5th May '10 3:00 PM

Wow! Lots to ponder.

I don't really think the island is purgatory, mostly because the writers said it wasn't ( But that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of metaphorical similarity as this writer so well points out (

I'm not sure how to weave all the Greek mythology into this, though. Reading up on Hades, Thanatos, Cerberus, Asphodel Meadows and other concepts, I think we can say that Greek mythology colored the writer's thinking, but I don't think they're being that literal.

Upon reflection of last night's episode, it's obvious we're not going to have all the happy endings we hoped for, though there is still the possibility of some of them. I now see that Smokey can't kill the candidates directly and I think Jack may have pegged it. Instead of his needing all of them alive for him to escape, he needs them all to be dead for him to escape.

Which leads me back to my belief of how the series must end - one lone survivor trapping Smokey on the island. I still think it's going to be Jack. And I sincerely hope the rest are not killed, but manage to escape. I don't think I can handle it if Hurley dies.

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4285)
Wed, 5th May '10 8:03 PM

I'm pretty much in step with your line of thinking, Judy. I think just about everything Smokey has said can be turned into the opposite for its meaning. I think he's used words and images to get people to do what he wants them to and has no intention of saving or helping anyone but himself. However, I am intrigued that his home might be hell. But I can't imagine why he'd want to go back there.

I also think Jack is "The Candidate," the title of last night's episode. He's reclaimed his leadership qualities and is even a stronger person now than when the plane first crashed.

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