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Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Sun, 1st Oct '06 12:03 PM

WHY EDITORS HAVE NOT GONE PUBLIC

As editors we have often, amongst ourselves, discussed going public and have decided that it would inhibit our ability to continue to participate as regular members as well. There are too many players who have trouble keeping perspective. If I reject a quiz or write a tricky Word Puzzle, anyone could attack me publicly here, or in a PM, or bad mouth me behind my back in PM's to other members, or simply bomb the ratings on all my quizzes.

We have seen many unpleasant reactions here in the BBS rooms to warrant this secrecy.

If anyone has a legitimate gripe against any particular editor, send in a support ticket. Justin would not allow any blatant cheating from editors, just as he keeps the cheaters at bay amongst the general population.

If anyone suspects a certain editor of inappropriate behavior, I think he/she should name them here (by their editor name) and see if anyone else has noticed the same behavior. [This is my idea only - I do not speak on behalf of any other editors. EX: "Sploofizz seems to have a higher percentage of spelling errors in WP's than other editors; does anyone else think this problem should be addressed?"]

If anyone feels that any regular player is being advanced unfairly, and suspects that they might be an editor...again, support ticket privately to Justin is the only reasonable procedure. If the accusation is unfounded, then no harm, no foul. If anyone calls someone out publicly and are WRONG, then all havoc could ensue.

Accusing the editors in general, or any specific but unnamed editor, of wrongdoing seems counterproductive and purposely incendiary.

[**Please note that this thread was started by me, a single editor, and not by the official Sploofus spokesperson, who is Justin and Justin only.]

banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 12:13 PM

You really want us to post here?

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusaurus (Editor)  
Sun, 1st Oct '06 4:38 PM

I support all that Sploofizz has stated.
Anonymity is not a place for editors to hide, but rather it is a buffer zone between Administration and Membership for the individuals concerned.

fookie
Fookie  (Level: 128.5 - Posts: 36)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 6:33 PM

May I also be anomymous if I post a response, a suggestion, or complaint?

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 8:06 PM

Anonymous is fine - Really, there are rules/expectations, etc. The program seems to work well. I suppose persons who are editors are also players who have earned the position (and onerous task) of editing all of my Typo's and sentences that don't make sense. Thank you thank you thank you.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 8:30 PM

All post here are totally subjective as we do not know who is and isn't leading a double life. Like many things in life those in power have the advantage. The rest of us can only hope things are on the up and up.

mindmonkey
Mindmonkey  (Level: 270.9 - Posts: 295)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 8:33 PM

When the editing system started, sploofus said that eventually he would publically name the editors. I think that he wisely changed his mind. I don't think the editors could do their job if they constantly had to endure pressure from the members. In fact, I think they'd quit. If there are problems--and I, personally haven't experienced any--the proper way to deal with it is through a support ticket and keep the circle of editors out of the debate.

It's surprising how many people have joined since the editing system started. They don't remember what it was like here before. While it was still a good place, the quality of the quizes improved dramatically with the institution of the editors. There are still hundreds of those old, awful, quizes around. Check them out. There's no comparison to today's quizes. Another thing--we don't have any more cheating scandals that threaten to shut the place down. We can thank the editors for that.

I think the editors do an impressive job, even if the quiz wait is sometimes long, etc. They make this site a far more interesting place then the net's other trivia sites. Could things improve? Perhaps when this gets so big that it can afford paid full-time help, it will change. But, there is a downside to that, too. When there are twice as many people here, it's going to be twice as hard to get our quizes out on the board. There's something to be said for not growing too big.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.8 - Posts: 3302)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 9:51 PM

Mindmonkey, I thought your post was really interesting. I only joined last October, and the Editors were already on board. I knew that there was a time before Editors, and have certainly taken some of those old quizes (many are awful, and they have lots of errors). It is obvious to me that the Editors are doing an amazing job, and it is a shame that their motives seem to be called into question. It is not like they are getting rich volunteering their time.

Felix, I do not understand what "advantage" you think they have. They are not making a dime, so it is not monetary. They probably don't have very much time to write their own quizzes, so they are not getting points. There doesn't seem to be much left.

I think they are doing a great job, and I'm glad they are here!

Alice

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 10:07 PM

Then why hide? Who keeps them from taking their own word rounds and word puzzles? If they said at on time they would go public and then refused to, how does that look? Just makes one think. This is not intended to be confrontational, I just don't understand hiding if you've done nothing wrong.

bravegator
Bravegator  (Level: 152.0 - Posts: 428)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 10:43 PM

Does everyone remember this web site is just for FUN!! You win worthless points....you challenge yourself menatally and you make some pretty good friends!! I am not sure what advantage the editors have, besides putting in extra time reviewing quizes!

The editors get attacked enough when we don't know who they are....G-d knows what will happen if people ever knew their true identities!!! Who cares who they are, what difference does it make?

Everyone just needs to relax!

Chelle

sploofus
Justin  
Sun, 1st Oct '06 10:56 PM

I have removed the other post in the Salty Dog that was hijacked with this topic because it had become confrontational, slanderous, presumptuous, and entirely irrelevant to the original topic of the thread (which was Quiz Invitations, incidentally).

The current editing system has been working wonderfully for nearly two years now and I am not inclined to change something that works well and makes 99.999% of all Sploofusers happy. Feedback, suggestions and opinions are always welcome on Sploofus. However, I have no intention on changing the existing system or hosting chat messages that are of the "bet ya wouldn't say that to my face!" variety.

Please keep thing positive, on topic, and limit the drama to the soap quizzes.

Thank you,
Justin

missgeorge
Missgeorge  (Level: 63.0 - Posts: 388)
Sun, 1st Oct '06 11:44 PM

This site isn't perfect, but, I remember that day or two when this site was shut down and I was, metaphorically speaking, climbing the walls. I tried another site during that time, and it truly paled by comparison.

Perhaps people should stop taking this site so seriously. It's not like you will win the lottery if you win a word puzzle or word round. So lighten up, go with the flow, and enjoy the best site on the web!

Personally, I support not knowing the identities of the editors because it allows them to do their job easier.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 12:18 AM

In some ways it makes our jobs easier, but in other ways it makes it harder. However, none of that matters. The bottom line is that this is how the site is run, and that's therefore how we do it. If you don't like the way something is run here, you can certainly bring it up in the forums, or discuss it with Justin. He has made changes in response to popular demand. But don't blame us when we don't reveal our identities. We have been asked not to, and we do not wish to betray that trust.


banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 12:23 AM

Hey, with all you editors around, has anyone fixed the WP yet?

aquamar
Aquamar  (Level: 179.0 - Posts: 910)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 12:33 AM

I've been here for a long time and Justin is right if it isn't broken it doesn't need to be fixed. I think mystery adds spice to life. There is nothing to be gained by knowing the identities of the editors. They do a fantastic job and I'm glad they are here.


Cathy

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.3 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 4:46 AM

To clarify one of the posts above, did I not see somewhere that editors cannot take their own Word Puzzles, etc., and that they do not see which answers are correct when they edit quizzes?

Sploofus Editor
Sploofloops (Editor)  
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 8:07 AM

FenixFelix: You asked, "Who keeps them from taking their own word rounds and word puzzles?"

We do not write anything to do with the Word Rounds.
We cannot receive our own Trivia Questions of the Day (it has been programmed as such).
What would be the benefit to taking our own Word Puzzles-- 5,000 points? Not really worth it.

As you must know by now, we are all volunteers. We do it because we all want to see the site get better and better. Personally, I am pleased to see a wider array of Word Puzzle topics as well as more TQOTD (I had been getting occasional repeats, and what fun is that?). As mentioned above, quiz quality was a major factor. I hated to see quizzes without punctuation or proper spelling and grammar. Believe me, they are still turned in every day, along with quizzes with profanity and obscene content.

While I am not opposed to the idea of "going public" I do wonder if a few disgruntled players might bomb my quizzes or send me nasty PMs. I could live with that, but it sure wouldn't be pleasant. In the meantime, I'd really like to thank those who take the time to submit quality quizzes and support this fun site by taking quizzes, puzzles, and playing Word Rounds. Thank you!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 8:11 AM

Thank you Sploofette. I knew someone could give a civil response without a put down. YOU have a great day!!!!!

AJ

helsleym78
Helsleym78  (Level: 54.9 - Posts: 54)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 10:45 AM

I, personally, feel that the editors have done a wonderful job. If I were them, I'd want to remain anonymous as well. You editors have a hard job and I appreciate all that you guys do! Keep up the good work!
Melissa

gypsylady
Gypsylady  (Level: 142.8 - Posts: 6058)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 11:46 AM

I also appreciate everything the editors do, and for volunteering their time. I always thank each editor for editing my quizzes.

Thank you very much!

Marilyn...

charlemange
Charlemange  (Level: 55.9 - Posts: 42)
Mon, 2nd Oct '06 2:43 PM

Sometimes, part of me is really happy with not knowing too much about what goes on behind the scenes here. It sounds like there's been drama, and frankly, I'm just here to answer some trivia questions and goof off from work for a few minutes at a time.

I'm sorry there's tension. You guys (collectively and non-gender-specifically) do good work, and I appreciate it, and I'll be more than happy to re-up my membership later this month when it comes due. I just feel bad that you feel compelled to air stuff like this out of (to a non-participant) thin air.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Tue, 3rd Oct '06 3:34 PM

I guess with all the Word Puzzle screw-ups, it probably is best the editors remain anonymous. I think most of the editors do a great job. The ones that I thought were being rude, were probably just venting from the frustration of all their little boo-boos. Yes live and let live has always been my motto. Isn't It great to be a Yankee fan this time of year!!!!!

sploofus
Justin  
Tue, 3rd Oct '06 6:16 PM

NO IT IS NOT! LOL!

OK, so baseball is the one non-Sploofus-related-thread that I love to chirp in on.

I actually went to quite a few games at Comerica this year, and am just happy to see an otherwise crappy ball club make it to the playoffs, even if riding in on a wild card. Us Tigers don't really have any "all-star" players on the roster. Instead we have a well rounded team of relatively good players, and a manager that knows how to manage a team... unlike Trammell (who was a great short stop but a lousy manager).

::POST EDITED 7 OCT 2006::

So the Tigers are headed to the ALCS! Who'da thunkit? I guess Jeremy Bonderman really is the man afterall.

helsleym78
Helsleym78  (Level: 54.9 - Posts: 54)
Wed, 4th Oct '06 12:03 AM

Oh, please let the Twins be blasted!!!! They lost today to the Athletics. I'm ecstatic! The Tigers really need to get it together and play like they did at the beginning of the season.

sblv
Sblv  (Level: 188.6 - Posts: 337)
Wed, 4th Oct '06 2:09 AM

Justin, Is it true that you DID NOT come to Chicago because you did not want to reveal your identity?

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Mon, 9th Oct '06 8:03 PM

LOL!! I can't see that being a problem really! (Justin not coming to Chicago because he didn't want to reveal his identity)!

Revealing his personal person in real life as being Justin wouldn't blow his cover as any player identity he may have, would it?!

My vote goes to the editors' anonymity, by the way - I know exactly how difficult it would be for them to be known publicly.

I do, however, think we should be able to reply to editor's comment on our quizzes - there've been a couple of times I've really wanted to get clarification on something - and since we don't know which editor is doing it (unless they choose to say), that wouldn't be compromising their anonymity. Just an idea.

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Tue, 10th Oct '06 6:46 PM

It ain't broke,....don't fix nuttin.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 11:35 AM

I agree let them stay anonymous. It would be nice to know which editor was editing on or knit picking quizzes being submitted. If the monikers are a must why not at least sign you work?

sblv
Sblv  (Level: 188.6 - Posts: 337)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 8:19 PM

Fenixfelix, They used to sign each quiz prior to the "mellonhead" incidence. I do not have time for all the details right now, I am sorry. I agree it was much better before that for most of us, however, this is the decision the editors have made. It would be nice just to be able to reply to some of the notes even without knowing the name of the editor, mostly to thank them individually.

smeans
Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:40 PM

I say leave the editors alone. They do a fine job as is, so why mess with it. As for the boo boos in the WP's and such. Can anyone honestly sit here and say they have never made a mistake or overlooked something. I know I can't....I make boo boo's all day long at work and frequently overlook things. It's life...no one is perfect.

Shawna

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:46 PM

Mellonhead? Which editor would that be?

embee
Embee  (Level: 86.7 - Posts: 362)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:50 PM

Mellonhead was not an editor. He was a player who went on a pretty abusive rant and later quit. I don't recall his ranting being directed at the editors, but I could be wrong.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 10:29 PM

I read some Mellonhead treads. Interesting that he started off asking questions and exploded before getting answers. Since giving opinions on editors and who they might be can be supported by the editors under a guise of their player name it's really pointless to question what may or may not be ethical. So enjoy the trivia and prosper.

Are Mellonheads quizzes still available? If so how would one find them?

Peace out!

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Thu, 12th Oct '06 12:22 AM

Fenixfelix:

http://www.sploofus.com/user-trivia.sp?pu=mellonhead

Just substitute the player's name in the above link to jump to their quizzes.

tmmobley11
Tmmobley11  (Level: 35.5 - Posts: 2)
Fri, 13th Oct '06 11:04 AM

I supported Sploofus as stated.

emiperkins
Emiperkins  (Level: 50.0 - Posts: 201)
Sun, 15th Oct '06 6:37 PM

Ahhh, the Great Mellonhead Saga of Aught-6. I remember it well.

That being said, the editors and the great Mr. Sploof himself are doing a fantastic job.

Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with Sploofus.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Sun, 15th Oct '06 6:47 PM

see how editors are also players, and editors check and thus publish the quizzes. Does that mean if you have blocked a sender who happens to be an editor then they would not be able to tell you that your quiz has been launched?

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Sun, 15th Oct '06 7:16 PM

HAHAHA I have just finished reading thw whole thread about the 'mellonhead' saga and boy what a saga that was. It just goes to show how some people can lose grip on reality and start becoming paranoid about things by reading far too much into them.

Since I have been a member of Sploofus i have enjoyed it so much. Although there has been a couple of times where I have written a quiz, had it launched and then received messages from other players saying some answers were wrong although I could have sworn I put them in right. Whether that was a case of my error or perhaps even an editors error (and I have seen editors making mistakes on my quizzes) is by the by. It happened, it was fixed and it was over.

I truly believe the Editors should remain annonymous to protect themselves from needless abuse if things went wrong.

BUT

I would also like to see some way of knowing which editor has checked the quizzes because it would be nice to say thanks to them over some things.

Obviously in a site that has over 14,000 (and counting) members, there are going to be some disputes and differences between what people like/dislike and/or want. But at the end of the day, it is what it is, nothing more, nothing less and that can only be described as a good thing.

So a big thank you to everyong, from Justin to the Editors to The players (both paying and non paying members) as every single person is what makes this place such a good place. And long may it continue.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Sun, 15th Oct '06 8:19 PM

To respond to a couple of the issues Baggiob raised:

Presumably the people selected as editors are not the types likely to cause someone to block their mail. Regardless, messages regarding the fate of submitted quizzes do not come from our accounts, but rather from a server message generation program. So they come from the account "Sploofus" itself. I hope you have not blocked that.

While generally the identity of the editor who handled a particular quiz is not made available, there are exceptions. The Editor's Award page lists quizzes by editor, so you can find out who's responsible for thus honouring your quiz. However, since there is no mechanism implemented for private communication between a user and an incognito editor other than within the quiz submission mechanism, I'm not sure there is typically a need for people to know which editor processed their quizzes.

Besides, in your case, we've probably all done a few.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 15th Oct '06 9:13 PM

Wow! The drama! There is some great stuff in the chat archives. Because several people had ask me if I am the former Sploofer Felix, I looked in the old chat to see if Felix had any post or quiz's. Although he had some cool (but corny) things to say, he too had an issue with editors it seems.

I love this stuff and just reached 4,000,000 points, but it seems that Mellonhead and Felix had issues with the editors and are no longer around. Does that mean you can not speak up at Sploofus. I like to think that if the rules are consistant any game can be fun. Just wondering.

Oh! I almost forgot ( or is it I just remembered), all the quack references? Was the editor in question a Doctor or something? Any way if there is any other 'must reads' in old chat that someone recommends, I'd like to hear about it.

Is there a way to change your user name?

emiperkins
Emiperkins  (Level: 50.0 - Posts: 201)
Sun, 15th Oct '06 9:44 PM

They weren't "taken out" for complaining. They got disgruntled and chose to leave.

As to the "quack" I believe in one of the early early posts about cheating or something, Felix said, "If it looks like a duck. . . ."

There have been innumerable dramas here, some amusing, some just plain childish. All in all, however, trivia lovers are a pleasant and peaceable bunch. So please, enjoy the site for what it is. TRIVIAL.

embee
Embee  (Level: 86.7 - Posts: 362)
Sun, 15th Oct '06 10:12 PM

Well said Emily.


surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.3 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 16th Oct '06 3:28 AM

And remember that all this comment is only possible because Sploofus has been specifically designed as such an immensely democratic site with all these Chat facilities.
That, and the editing system, are amongst its strongest unique points, and long may it continue to be so, even if some may abuse occasionally.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 16th Oct '06 1:31 PM

Juts in response to SPLOOFERNATURAL,
I didn't even know you could block messages from sploofus, in fact i would think if anyone did that they would have to go down as being stupid. lol

I also liked the bit about all the editors havind done some of mine. I know that there has been a couple of occassions when what I have written as a quiz has been discussed between the editors (or so I have been led to believe) and I must say that something like that has to be applauded. Also a few editors have sent messages with the usual, YOUR QUIZ ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH (sic), to an effect which has been much appreciated, so keep up the good work.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 27th Oct '06 8:12 AM

One does have to wonder how often an editor defends a bad word puzzle or spelling error under his player name. What was the name of that movie with Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts?

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Fri, 27th Oct '06 11:06 AM

Oh, you mean the one about the paranoid guy who feels that everyone is always targeting him and there are tons of intrigues that are being kept from him? Never heard of it.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 27th Oct '06 11:40 AM

Besides, there's no such thing as a bad WordPuzzle. There's only a WordPuzzle you didn't enjoy. And the day an Editor writes a WordPuzzle that everyone who takes it loves will probably be the day an artist paints a painting everyone who sees it loves, or a band records a song everyone who hears it loves, or any of us write a quiz all 15,000 Sploofusers love.

Perspective!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Fri, 27th Oct '06 12:10 PM

I think:

1. A bad word puzzle is the one with the wrong spellings that causes everyone problems or somehow contains incorrect information.

2. Ken is an editor.

Tootles,
Lodi

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 27th Oct '06 1:03 PM

I'll take that as a compliment.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Fri, 27th Oct '06 2:43 PM

See when an editor is signed in as an editor, if it comes up in the 'NOW PLAYING' section as there user name then I am sure that someone could easily work out who the editors are.



Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Fri, 27th Oct '06 10:44 PM

You do have a point Baggiob, but are you all aware that there is an option in your account preferences to use Stealth Mode? So a username showing up as online when an editor posts could be significant, could be coincidence, or could really mean nothing at all.

Sploofus Maximus

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Sat, 28th Oct '06 4:53 AM

I did not know about stealth mode.

emiperkins
Emiperkins  (Level: 50.0 - Posts: 201)
Mon, 30th Oct '06 1:46 AM

Oooh! Stealth mode! How exciting. Very cloak and dagger.

sploofus
Justin  
Mon, 30th Oct '06 12:02 PM

OK I am going to clear it up once and for all:

I alone am ALL of the editors. I have multiple personality disorder and Sploofus was the perfect way for me to leverage my illness in a positive direction. My collective consciouses will no longer address threads pertaining to who we really are because, as I said, we are really me and I am what I am, not what I was nor what I will be if you ask me. Thanks!

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Mon, 30th Oct '06 6:25 PM

So that must mean we really only have about 14,500 PEOPLE playing on Sploofus? I'm also figuring into that number the people with multiple accounts who use them to score high on word puzzles and quizzes in record time.

banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Tue, 31st Oct '06 1:30 AM

Maybe they are Justin, too?

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.3 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 31st Oct '06 3:27 AM

I wondered who was writing all those quizzes under my name ..............

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Tue, 31st Oct '06 6:32 AM

Hey Justin - you could also go to 1040 S. Winter St. They've got good meds. for the disorder and could help you with the MPD.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Tue, 31st Oct '06 8:35 AM

Shhhhhhh. Keep it down, Sploofette. Justin's trying to sleep!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Tue, 31st Oct '06 9:22 AM

This smacks of nepotism and narcolepsy.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusaurus (Editor)  
Tue, 31st Oct '06 3:45 PM

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a good supply of wigs, costumes, funny walks and different accents!
I thought we had a comprehensive collection of multi-national editors: now I find they were all Justin playing dress-ups, and that I'm not real either?


felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 1st Nov '06 5:24 AM

I love this thread. More Word Puzzle complaints in chat this morning. We are all human thus we shall err. If you are going to remain anonymous spend less time in chat defending goofs and more time checking your spelling. Otherwise a bunch of pseudonym posts defending each other seems silly. Also to be equitable why put an editors name on a Word Puzzle at all.

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Wed, 1st Nov '06 7:37 AM

There is a cryptic complaint in chat about a word puzzle error that does not exist. I'm not sure if the person is referring to PAST errors in general, or is complaining about a word that is actually spelled correctly. There is a perception of word puzzle errors that FAR exceeds the number of errors actually made. If you follow the threads closely you'll find that often a player "catches" an error that was in fact their own mistake. That may have been the case today.

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Sat, 4th Nov '06 6:24 AM

Hey now! Watch how you talk about us crazy people......some of are nice.
Don't I look like a nice guy? http://www.sploofus.com/profile.sp?pu=ronkon

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Sat, 4th Nov '06 6:40 AM

What I meant to say, is that some of us crazies are nice.

charlemange
Charlemange  (Level: 55.9 - Posts: 42)
Sat, 4th Nov '06 12:25 PM

Okay, now you guys are just BLOWING MY MIND.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sat, 4th Nov '06 7:43 PM

I announced at the Chicago Sploofus convention that I was an editor. I would like to retract that statement as I was under the influence of alcohol at that time.

Or maybe I'm under the influence of alcohol now. Its pretty hard to tell these days.

Lodi
(back seat editor)

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Sat, 4th Nov '06 8:54 PM

You ain't gettin' off that easy. BUSTED!!!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sat, 4th Nov '06 9:52 PM

Takes one to know one.

mistertom428
Mistertom428  (Level: 238.2 - Posts: 16)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 1:16 PM

I have not posted a comment in some time and have had many confrontations with editors about my quizzes that other Sploofus members have told me should be award winners but nada. I realize my remedy has always been to not belong and this I choose to do not prefering to not waste time writing quizzes and just take TQOTD and find it fulfilling to be in the top 100. Not too shabby for a ex-Navy college drop out.
But I do find the reasons for the editors to remain anonymous to be weak and cowardly. Editors are fearful of their quizzes being bombed? Really? Aren't they going to be good quizzes? Afterall they are editors and will my one Zero rating mean that much in the average? Mathematically it will not.
Editors are fearful of evil postings. Doesn't Justin monitor this and pull inappropriate postings?
It's time for the editors to come out of the shadows and if Justin doesn't want to change the policy, how about just "outing" yourself. This is a fun web site not the war in Iraq.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 1:39 PM

I agree. If you're doing nothing wrong, why hide. If you look at the EA screen you get a good idea on the editors are. It just doesn't seem right to have secret players. Edit or play. It's an ego trip for some. Some are helpful, other are mere demigods. I love this thread.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 3:07 PM

I don't believe any of the editors are necessarily "hiding" anything by remaining anonymous. I think they are just ensuring their enjoyment of the site. I don't think they would enjoy playing as a normal member if everyone knew they were an editor. They would have tons of messages to respond to (both good and bad). People would be biased when rating their quizzes (they could get rated unfairly high or low, and I can just see someone already complaining that this or that editor's quizzes are getting too many points because people are rating them artificially high because they are an editor that everyone likes). Really, how could they play as a "normal" member if everyone knew they were an editor? I think they would be miserable and quit like Mindmonkey mentioned above.

And as much as people overreact to things on this website sometimes, I can only imagine that there must be some concern for safety in their reasons as well. There are lots of crazy people in the world and even though many of us are friendly, in reality I don't personally know any of you, nor do I know anyone's true mental status. Some people have enough information in their profiles that someone could track them down if they really wanted to. Why should they risk their safety and the safety of the family unnecessarily? I like to believe we are all a reasonably nice group of people here, but what about the thousands of non-gold members that we know nothing about? You just never know these days.

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 3:33 PM

Aren't there more improtant issues in the world than who is an editor - people are losing their lives all over the world, women are being raped and beaten, while men are not being held accountable, children are starving and living with drug addicted parents. Who cares who is an editor - Just shut up and have fun or put your critical energies towards issues that really matter.

Ok - I'm a little ticked off today, been busy with living and haven't written quizzes to be edited. I am not a professional writer, however, do a lot of it in my profession.

Jeez, write your congress (man/woman) about a social issue that you are passionate about, put as much energy into challenging the social systems and structures that are strangling creativity and productivity. Close down your local strip club because you are outraged about the depersonalization and objectification of women. Or just write and take a few quizzes FOR FUN.

Mike (on a bad day)

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Sun, 5th Nov '06 4:04 PM

Very well said Ummagumma!

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Sun, 5th Nov '06 4:04 PM

I hope the rest of your day goes better!

smeans
Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 4:34 PM

*nods at Kravfighter* Yep you nailed it on the head. I still stand by what I said earlier.....leave the editors alone. Putting themselves out there and saying "hey I'm an editor" is like sticking a bullseye on them because whenever someone gets upset about something....their inboxes will be full. They will more than likely be blasted on the message boards, more than they already are now. Their "life" here at Sploofus will become miserable because the enjoyment will be sucked right out of it.

In things like SploofTallk they would have people either berating them because they didn't get an editors award for a quiz that has hundreds of similar ones already posted or they would have people falsely trying to be their friend because they want to say they are "friends" with an editor and hope it might gain some advantage over other players.

Editors are players.....players who also devote spare time to editing quizzes to make this site better. Many of you may not remember the days before editors but I do. The level of the quizzes now is soooo much better than it was in the early days. Why?? Because the editors volunteer their time to quality check the quizzes before allowing them to be posted to the site. But like I said before.....they are HUMAN....everyone makes mistakes. Give the editors a break....they are trying their best to help Justin make this into the best trivia site on the Web, and in my opinion....they are succeeding.

Shawna


ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 6:06 PM

Did you know that a rapist or a person who victimizes someone sexually has at minimum 25 victims? Out of that 25 (who could be women children {boys or girls} or other men) at least 3 of the victims go on to perpetrate sexual crimes. Now we have at least 75 more victims, do the math, it's pretty scary.

Let's place our outrage at our social structure that objectifies women and or sex by selling products using women's bodies in sexually provocative attire and positions.

OK so Sploofus editors are human, cool. This is a hobby, a past time, something to do when we need a break from the usual routines.

Why whine about the inequities of Sploofus, when there are so many other important issues to focus our energies towards.

Let's bring the women and men home from Iraq safe and with all their parts intact, let's organize a protest to stop the neighbor grocery store from selling pornography to children, let's rally around a local women's safe house and offer support to the battered and the homeless.

Or, let's whine because an editor "dissed" my quiz.

I think I'm done ranting.

Mike

smeans
Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 7:42 PM

ummm ok Mike....I hope you didn't take my post as whining. That wasn't the intent of it at all. I'm just going to shut up about this because I think I have stated my feelings on the issue pretty clearly.

Shawna


felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 8:11 PM

But I like to whine!!!!!

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Sun, 5th Nov '06 8:17 PM

Smeans - you're comments were not whining.

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 12:32 AM

Hey, I have a great Idea! How about starting a thread where "only non editors say hi." You guys really slay me... (please after carefully contemplating my post, look at the top pic on my info page http://www.sploofus.com/profile.sp?pu=ronkon )

Sploofus Editor
Sirsploof (Editor)  
Mon, 6th Nov '06 4:35 AM

Someone up above got it right.
Some editors are willing to be 'outed', others are not. Currently, therefore, the policy is as is.
I prefer 'secrecy' - only because I have a lively contact with many players and I do not want those relationships to change, which I'm sure they would if my editorship was known.
Simple as that.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 5:36 AM

Just what have you done that would make players view you differently. Have I mentioned I love this thread?

sblv
Sblv  (Level: 188.6 - Posts: 337)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 9:43 AM

By the way, is it possible for the editor to recieve an Editor Award for the self-written quiz? Obviously, it would be awarded by another editor. Thank you.

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 10:41 AM

Felix: and what have YOU done that would have people view YOU differently if you just used your real name? I don't underSTANd...? Isn't this why we all use 'handles'? Very confusing to me...

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 10:50 AM

I have very few convictions. Lots of arrests, but no convictions. And please call me Fenix.

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 7:11 PM

Fenix: Very well, Fenix is peachy as well

smiles!



felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 9:27 PM

Thank you, kindly!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 9:47 PM

What happened to the post by Ravensight about a rude editor? Censorship? I loved it.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 10:14 PM

Something strange is happening with the posts - possibly related to the new server??? There was some strange occurrences in the WP also according to someon in the Salty Dog. A little while ago, this one was about 5 down the list and listed a date of 11/01/06 as the last posting, even though many posts were made to day.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 10:16 PM

Very interesting.

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Mon, 6th Nov '06 11:14 PM

I think it was the second gunman. ^0)


dusty
Dusty  (Level: 79.6 - Posts: 10)
Sat, 11th Nov '06 5:32 AM

The only time it gets a little "iffy" on the communication is when the support tickets fail and cannot be used. I'm experiencing this now on a personal matter. It shouldn't be hard to figure who is and isn't an editor. Most are the ones who care most about the success of this site. Honestly, I know some of my friends are in this catagory, but I'd never ask them to disclose it to me, because I respect them and have gotten the same back in vast quantities. Am I an editor? If I were to be one, I'm not so sure I'd admit it either. Perhaps some would like to see the statistics that would apply if the editors all disclosed... like who receives the most bribes to release quizzes, who gets paid the most imaginary money for their time and trouble. The rank of those editors who watch regular sploofusers past them because they have trouble getting their own quizzes, etc submitted because they are working on those submitted by the ones bellyaching about them. Perhaps we could have a five star rating of approval from the "commoners" among us about how they approve of us. Or perhaps Justin is right and they are all aspects of his MPD. Perhaps we are all Justin and just doing what the voices in our heads tell us to do.(In misspelled UK/Aussie/or US English of course)

Perhaps if we all took a reality pill and accepted that this is a shining exception in countless bad sites out there, we could be thankful we have this place to retreat to and all do our personal best to keep it the best site on the web. I just asked myself and we are not amused by the nay-sayers, so following Grace Slick's advise perhaps we should all "Just ask Alice". The Mad Hatter and White Rabbit agree with me. Peace out, y'all. Dusty @};-

sploofus
Justin  
Sat, 11th Nov '06 11:30 AM

Eloquent. Thank you, Dusty.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 4th Dec '06 6:55 AM

This is a bit of a random pondering.

With Justin wanting to 'raise the bar'of sploofus, with a new server already in place allowing the number of members (in theory at least) to rise substantially higher than it is at present. And with the removal of FITB format and talk about composing a NEW style guide for authoring quizzes.
Perhaps in the future the way forward is to have editors who are not also players. In fact perhaps if the site really is going to become the BEST trivia site ever and have a substantially large amount of players (the knock on effect being more paid players) perhaps at that stage there would be some financial renumeration for said editors. (Only if they are editors and not players as well) At least that way then it would not matter if their real identity was known or not because they would not have one.



felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 4th Dec '06 7:06 AM

Bagger, I have to check the weather report, because Hell has surely frozen over. I finally agree with you on something. You said what I've been thinking. Does raising the bar mean we'll lose those classy fart button ads? I guess there is a price to pay for progress.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 4th Dec '06 7:18 AM

Felix, although we may have had our differences in the past it has become apparent that we may well be on the same wavelength about many things. (although still differ on some things. lol)



felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 4th Dec '06 7:29 AM

Naturally. The name is Fenix!!! On soccer we'll never agree. How about a quiz on tossing the ole caber?

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Mon, 4th Dec '06 4:54 PM

awww, this is so sweet. What's not to love about a couple of guys playing with their poles? Maybe a joint quiz is in the future?

Eagerly anticipating,

Robin

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 13th Dec '06 10:57 AM

Again I have had messages from players saying answers in my quizzes are wrong, even when I can categorically say they were correct when I launched them.

I will be keeping a very sharp eye out for this thing in the future and hope it doesn't happen again.

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.5 - Posts: 2672)
Wed, 13th Dec '06 2:29 PM

Bag-
Why have you posted that comment here? Are you coming out of the Editor closet. With all of the quizzes you write, you don't have time to be an editor!

As you know, you can go back to your questions and answers, if you choose to, and change or update the answers.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 13th Dec '06 2:39 PM

Maurlin, lets just say I don't want to start pointing fingers about something that could be a mistake on my part.

Perhaps one reason an editor would have to remaining anonymous would be so they can cause havoc. lol

I had a bother with an editor a while ago, who basically was moaning because I write so many quizzes, one support ticket later it was sorted.
But in recent weeks there seems to be a few discrepancies in my answers that I have submitted. So that is why I am keeping an eye on it. (But I didn't want to start accusations)

Just for the record, if anyone thinks I am having some slight go at the editors, they may want to read the following.

http://www.sploofus.com/bbs_detail.sp?post=20346&cID=7
http://www.sploofus.com/bbs_detail.sp?post=21379&cID=7
http://www.sploofus.com/bbs_detail.sp?post=21993&cID=7
http://www.sploofus.com/bbs_detail.sp?post=26696&cID=7

I really do think the editors do a fantastic job and I could be reading into something that doesn't exist, maybe I am just paranoid. lol

AND just for the record 'Baggiob is not an Editor but if he was he would probably be the best in the world' pmsl

(only Joking)

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 13th Dec '06 2:45 PM

Sorry meant to add. Perhaps editors should have some kind of signature when they make your quiz go live. That way it is so much easier to thank them on chat for being so good and they can remain anonymous.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Sat, 23rd Dec '06 12:32 AM

I have tried to avoid sounding out about things. But I HONESTLY can't for the life of me figure out what is up with the heck is up with the gripes? Why...??? If you don't like it...NUFF SAID....

In the spirit of the season....can we all just realize that nothing is perfect and that if this is about "winning" or "the most points"...you are going to be sorely disappointed. It's never been about "winning"...it's ALWAYS been about learning something...sometimes strange...and sometimes things you never thought you'd know.

Just my 2 cents...Me.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Sat, 23rd Dec '06 12:40 AM

Last thought...what I tell every single one of the people that work for me...got a better idea? Don't present problems...GIVE ME SOLUTIONS....



Sploofus Editor
Sploofloops (Editor)  
Sat, 23rd Dec '06 12:09 PM

I'm surprised this thread has been active for so long!

Baggiob, you wrote: "Again I have had messages from players saying answers in my quizzes are wrong, even when I can categorically say they were correct when I launched them.

I will be keeping a very sharp eye out for this thing in the future and hope it doesn't happen again."

This fact has been noted before, but when a quiz is submitted and we pull it up to edit, the answer choices are submitted (generated) randomly. Your designation as the "Correct Answer" is in no way visible to us. Therefore, there isn't a way that an answer submitted as a correct one would be changed. Forgive me if I've misunderstood your complaint-- but I wanted to point out that editors are not changing your answer choices in any way.

Thanks for all the support to those who have given it. It's much appreciated. Happy Holidays to all.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Sat, 23rd Dec '06 12:15 PM

Sploofette, As I said above, it was probably me just being daft.

And happy holidays to everyone, and a big shout out to the editors.

gypsylady
Gypsylady  (Level: 142.8 - Posts: 6058)
Sat, 23rd Dec '06 2:10 PM

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to the Editors!!!!!

Marilyn...

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 7th Jan '07 8:30 AM

I love this tread. Today one of the wonderful editors threw a word puzzle out there with amistake. One of those which letteris missing ani't I so smart puzzles. We can't have FITB because it is an inconvience to the editors. Yet they can make mistakes that cost players points and do a half-assed apology because they are editors. Editors should not be players as well. Happy New Year!

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 7th Jan '07 2:33 PM

Personally, I love WPs. They're what caused me to initially go gold. I love doing them, and am thankful that people are willing to build them and put them out there for our pleasure. I also really love the ones that have a twist or an extra level of challenge, such as the one letter missing ones. I know they're not everybody's cup of tea, but then, what is? When I take one I don't enjoy for whatever reason, I shrug it off and come back 12 hours later.

Mistakes happen in WPs. We all wish they wouldn't. I'm sure the authors and editors wish they wouldn't. And sometimes those mistakes cost us those highly valuable points. As do mistakes in, for example, the trivia quizzes we all write. Not just sloppy spelling, either, but sometimes cold hard facts. I've accidentally put two correct answers to a question, which cost some quiz-takers, until I had it pointed out and was able to correct it. Stuff happens. But for some reason, when it does, the quiz authors usually aren't cursed out with the same vitriol that the WP authors are.

Cripes, they do us all a favor, and these are the thanks they get! So you got 4733 points for your effort instead of 4938. Get over it! I don't know about those editors, but I'd sure think a few times before writing a WordPuzzle for such an audience.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 7th Jan '07 3:33 PM

Speak for yourself. I don't recall any editor doing me any favor. Then again they hide their identities so who knows. You could be the editor that wrote it. My two cents, Gabe. So if you don't agree get over it.

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Mon, 8th Jan '07 8:56 PM

Actually, Editors do us all favors by sharing their time with us and helping me edit my quizzes. Please let's not start this childishness again.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Thu, 11th Jan '07 12:25 AM

Ok...I wrote all the problematic WPs...and I sent your quizzes back...it's me. Now you know Felix. No more hiding.

Send me your gripes...

Kelly....

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Thu, 11th Jan '07 5:37 AM

I admire your honesty! It's only fair to know to know who has and edge of any kind. You have character. Thanks. This thread has lost it's luster. Next!

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Thu, 19th Jul '07 1:00 AM

Hey look here's a new topic we can have fun with. So I guess to stay on topic I should stick to the subject matter. It's easy to see why they hide.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Thu, 19th Jul '07 6:13 AM

Felix
....use of the word hide is not conducive to good relations.
It's fairly easy to see why you and smaug butted heads.
Please, please leave it alone.
Chicbref confessed to mudering Jimmy Hoffa!!!!
Rowlanda

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Thu, 19th Jul '07 6:21 AM

Sorry, last night a editor got to a personal level of attacking me for defending myself. I was slandered. When I defended myself, my post were deleted and those calling names were left standing as once before. This unbalanced set of rules can only be due to some grudge a player has against me and is misusing their editor abilities. Their are several post in this and other threads about power crazed editors. If Justin wants shoot my account, then so be it. I don't actually feel the editor that was so rude speaks for Justin.


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