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garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6640)
Sun, 23rd May '10 11:50 AM

MONKEY WRENCHED

Loved four out of five of my puzzles. Got the first thtree in one then....
The fourth was so unfair that despite identifying the movie I wasted 11 guesses and 700 points on it.
I await other victim's comments with interest!



daveguth
Daveguth  (Level: 254.0 - Posts: 1636)
Sun, 23rd May '10 2:53 PM

Yep, I got the same one. It used an unprecedented, awkward format that I hope isn't repeated in future WPs.

Too bad, because this was an otherwise delightful, clever WP. But now 50% of all those taking this WP will be left with a sour taste in their mouth.

aristotle
Aristotle  (Level: 72.7 - Posts: 191)
Sun, 23rd May '10 3:44 PM

I liked it. Even though my score was terrible, the puns still made me a chuckle.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6640)
Sun, 23rd May '10 4:33 PM

Well done Smoke!

15,371 seconds is four hours by my calculation. I'm very impressed with your score as well, of course.


bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3301)
Sun, 23rd May '10 5:23 PM

Fortunately, I guess I didn't get that puzzle. I'm not even a movie person, but I thought the clues were great and it made it easy to guess.

Don't ya wonder what Smoke was doing during all that time? Washing the floor? Guests drop in for a visit?

daveguth
Daveguth  (Level: 254.0 - Posts: 1636)
Sun, 23rd May '10 5:43 PM

I am guessing she spent about 14,500 seconds just working on that one that Barry and I complained about!

Seriously, I PM'd Smoke and she told me the real reason. I'll let her explain.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3301)
Sun, 23rd May '10 6:44 PM

She did. I PMed her as well.

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.3 - Posts: 7560)
Sun, 23rd May '10 7:31 PM

Hoping to play this one. Waiting for puzzle reset due to browser crash a short while ago.

jerrys
Jerrys  (Level: 190.9 - Posts: 334)
Sun, 23rd May '10 7:57 PM

I got that one also - only it was my first one.

The rest I got pretty quickly (for me, anyway). But that first one wasted a lot of letters.

asor
Asor  (Level: 155.7 - Posts: 589)
Sun, 23rd May '10 9:12 PM

Yep, that first one was a doozy!!

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6640)
Sun, 23rd May '10 9:25 PM

What was wrong with layer macacque?

Or a Macaque and bull story....

Both movies I'd seen -- so hardly too obscure?

Even the unfairness of macaque-ula might have been OK if it was not for the hyphen.
How could we work out neither the movie nor the monkey had a hyphen in them?

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3301)
Sun, 23rd May '10 9:43 PM

Whew! Glad that wasn't one I had. I think the reason you guys got that one was to allow me to be #1. Thanks!

daveguth
Daveguth  (Level: 254.0 - Posts: 1636)
Sun, 23rd May '10 9:49 PM

For those that didn't get it, the clue was "1931 Horror (incl. hyphen)." The answer was "macaque ula." Two words--even though Dracula and macaque are both just one word. Why not "macacqueula"? I've never seen answers broken into extra words like that, hyphen or no hyphen, so I thought for sure that I was on the wrong track with either Dracula or macaque. The problem was worse because, as Barry pointed out, the hyphen reference suggested that either the clue or the movie had a hyphen. Add to that that other puzzles in this WP used the more traditional approach, e.g., "Halloween" was transformed into "Howlerween" not "Howler Ween."

Very, very clever WP, but please, WP authors, don't go down this hyphenated word approach again.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Sun, 23rd May '10 10:15 PM

I made the judgment that spelling it either "macaqula", "macaquula" or "macaqueula" would produce a word that would not be pronounced anything like the desired effect, and thus, that would be more misleading to players than "macaque-ula", especially with the admonition in the clue to consider it hyphenated. Moreover, I thought the latter form would be the easiest for you to figure out the target spelling.

I believe such clue notes have appeared in recent puzzles to suggest that what is in the puzzle may surprisingly be a hyphenated word, rather than the two that appear to be there. By any means, that form was chosen as what I felt would be least misleading, and I'm sorry you two did not find it that way.

daveguth
Daveguth  (Level: 254.0 - Posts: 1636)
Sun, 23rd May '10 10:42 PM

I've played at least 95% of the WPs over the last two years and NEVER seen that sort of clue before.

Listen, I think the world of the folks who write WPs (and particularly enjoyed yours), and I'm the first one to defend those folks when they make an innocent mistake. But, really, can't you agree that using that approach may not be a good idea in the future? That's the only reason I posted my comment.

osuzannacollage
Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Mon, 24th May '10 12:02 AM


Thank you for a most enjoyable puzzle. Truly had fun with it!

Also got the Dracula one, and it was a toughie. Actually, I expect to find some tough ones in the mix. No big deal there.

Lots of fun!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.8 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 24th May '10 4:03 AM

I must agree with those horrified by "Macaque ula"

A veritable Transylvanian nightmare IMO.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6640)
Mon, 24th May '10 7:59 AM

Sploofernatural.
Apologies accepted.
I understand your idea, and I know you didn't mean to screw us over,
I too have never seen the concept of putting in and referring to a hyphen in a non-hyphenated word....and I have played most of the last 1000 puzzles....
The simplest solution would have been not to use that monkey or that movie or not that spelling but I do appreciate its hard to give up one's own puzzles.

Just remember: you owe us one!


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