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missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 1:04 AM

WR CHANGES - WHAT'S THE POINT OF GOING PLATINUM?

Well, I don't mind learning new skills. Hitting the 'enter' button and getting the annoying boink will help me learn faster to lean on my mouse skills of moving the cursor and pressing the click button.

When I get a WR that after the first one to five questions I KNOW I don't know the answer, I used to be able to press 'enter' and start a new round to try again. I could even try to improve on my best 100% score by taking more rounds.

Is this change permanent? Let me know, and put me out of my misery. I know I have a few more days to decide whether to renew my platinum membership, but gold is looking good now!

- Jeanne

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 1:10 AM

I agree wholeheartedly. I'm super bummed about the new restrictions. Not cool at all and I feel my platinum now offers me no benefits other than the personalized avatar. Big deal.

Lodi


chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 1:53 AM

Ahem...

I really like just about everything here...and I usually am one of the first to say Kudos when things change for the better. Someone suggested the shout box in WRs and quite honestly...I have become friends with people here that I couldn't even imagine speaking to on the phone or actually meeting in person one year ago. For that I am truly greatful. This is a remarkable place with remarkable people....that being said....

I went platinum when Sploofus went down and I got the DTs...I loved the new features and really enjoyed being able to play unlimited WRs...if only to keep up with the shout...much to the chagrin of my family.

Aside from the monitary differential...there really is only one difference between plat and gold. The ability to play unlimited WRs. In an attempt to make it a level playing field...it appears as if it it has become more cumbersome. If I choose to trash a WR...I now need to randomly click 3 other answers. I can't understand how hitting enter after knowing you are going to tank a round is somehow construed as "cheating" or bucking the system. The gold members do the same.

If completing the ENTIRE task is required, it should be standardized...all questions for quizzes that you have NO idea what they are about...all WPs that you lose interest in after you can't get the theme.

For me...it just is adding to my frustration...and lord knows I don't need any more frustration.

Just my 4 Brazillion cents

Chick

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 2:01 AM

One thing that hasn't been said (except I posted in the other post) is that its not just a matter of dumping a WR and starting over. One platinum player discovered tonight that after dumping a WR, she got a screen that came up on sploofus that because of dumping the WR, her IP address was being blocked from playing the WR's the rest of that hour.

We are being blocked from WR's. Now how is that unlimited WR's?

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 2:34 AM

Smoke said that happened...IMHO...that's just not right.

Need a tribunal...someone needs to get voted off the island...

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 7:54 AM

I was the one who got blocked. And in honesty I had dumped several rounds in a row, but I've done that many times before without getting blocked. By now my internal clock is pretty finely honed. I know within a couple seconds if I've gone past the time I already have posted, and if I hope to beat it and possibly win the round within the minutes remaining I certainly don't want to have to waste time finishing every round no matter how badly it's gone to crap.

Dunno which is worse, being trapped in a pear-shaped round or not being able to use the enter key to submit it. Both completely change the game for me; together they will send me back down the leaderboards and destroy the small advantages I gained by going platinum and paying through the nose for broadband.

As for the blockage, on the one hand it makes sense to stop people from just dumping through round after round looking for the nugget. On the other hand it sucks to be trapped in a word round that's gone sour.

In EVERY word round that goes sour!



lulise
Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 8:36 AM

That's strange about getting bumped off. I had one of those rounds where I knew I wouldn't make a good time anyways, so I hit submit. It popped up a screen saying, You've Only Answered 4 Questions! So out of curiosity, I answered 2 more and hit submit. Up popped, You've Only Answered 6 Questions! It did this everytime until I answered all 10.

lulise
Lulise  (Level: 32.2 - Posts: 248)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 8:38 AM

Does anyone know how often a nugget pops up? Is there only one every hour, or just randomly placed? And, could more than one player win a nugget within the same hour?

gypsylady
Gypsylady  (Level: 142.8 - Posts: 6058)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 8:47 AM

Since it started last night, I have only seen (2) people with a "gold nugget" by their name. I'm guessing it's just randomly, but I don't even know if everyone is taking the same questions at one time or how many sets of different (l0) questions there is. Maybe someone else knows more about it.



phitzy1
Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:10 AM

Chick's posting reminded me of something:

The President was in the Oval Office when an aide ran in looking harried.

"Mr. President," he said breathlessly,"the protesters outside are getting out of hand! There are riots and a Brazillian has been killed."

The President tooked about the room confusedly...

"Mr. President, what should we do?" asked the aide. Noting the confused expression on the President's face he inquired "are you okay?"

The President looked at the aide and said "I'm feeling fine...I'm just trying to figure out how many a Barzillian is..."

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:12 AM

The gold nuggest is totally random.

Lulise, now the only way you can dump a WR is while you are in it and realize you are going to or have blown the round, you must go back up to the top of your screen and click the Word round link again. It will take you back to your WR home page and scores you a zero in the WR you just abandoned. That's what Smoke did last night when she got the message that sploofus had locked her IP address out from WR's for the remainder of the hour.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:36 AM

Or you can always just run crazily down the list, randomly punching one thing from each set, and then hit Submit, to make the Elder Gods happy.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 10:23 AM

Which is exactly what I've been doing. Problem is, that still eats 15-30 seconds more that you may not have late in the hour to waste on a futile round.

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 11:12 AM

You all have valid points, could not agree more. I like to bail on futile rounds also. But, if the site gets 3 people to upgrade to gold for every one that downgrades from platinum,...the site wins. You've been trumped.

Aside from that, I've read that 3 nuggets were won last night,...the first night of being available. I've not seen anyone of the regular crowd here every morning win one, or mention it, or see the nugget, the site is just clogged with more looking for theirs.

Kinda like my aquarium. Say I was to have 100 fish in it. I toss 3 'nuggets' of food in it, 3 lucky fish get a nibble. But now the rest see the feeding frenzy has started and they come from all corners of the tank to try to find theirs, to no avail. I think the initial nugget toss is over, and now they are thinned out, but drawing more just to see if they can find one.

My opinion,
Tim

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 11:30 AM

Please don't do the same thing to Word Matches. Or at least put an on/off switch on the darn thing.

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 11:38 AM

Tim, you have some good points. I would feel better if it was demonstrated that the tactic resulted in a surge in Gold membership. But we’ll never know.

To be intellectually honest, I have to concede that changing the WRs from a lightning-round word game into a treasure hunt would precipitate some change. To be more fair, you would have to take away the big shovels from those who could dig deep.

Take the big fish out of the tank!


I like your suggestion, Fenixfelix. A choice in user preferences or something would be good. Would be nice to opt out of the gold rush for the privilege of trying for a fast time.

- Jeanne


smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 12:08 PM

Would be nice to opt out of the gold rush for the privilege of trying for a fast time.


That was worth repeating.

phitzy1
Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 1:02 PM

I agree!

An "opt out" would be great!

skillet66
Skillet66  (Level: 83.5 - Posts: 210)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 1:45 PM

We all know Justin cannot please everyone on this site,myself included!I just got barred from the word rounds for this hour-my message said i was trying to exploit the word round sytem.I did it!!I am now a common criminal!!I am the same as everyone else who plays WR's!If I know my time sucks or I am not comfortable with some of the questions I have answered,I dump the whole round!I do not call that exploiting the system!I am a platinum member and do not play as much as when I was regular or gold.Maybe I have become bored,I do not know.I like word rounds,but do not play as I used to.Word matches are for the birds and word puzzles are not my favorite thing.I do not write quizzes,I leave that to all the bright people of this site.So my platinum memebership ain't worth crap anymore,looks to me!!!The best thing about Sploofus nowadays is this chat forum.I think new polls should be put up asking about how we like the new WR format.Thanks for listening to me vent my frustrations on this subject.Martha

joanneeberlin
Joanneeberlin  (Level: 184.5 - Posts: 686)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 2:54 PM

How many points do you get if you have the golden football (nugget) and get them all right? Do you get extra points?

Jo

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:01 PM

100 Grand, Jo. And a nugget by your name apparently forevermore.

smeans
Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:17 PM

*nods at Smoke* Yep....got home and had 1 minute left in the hour to do a round. Usually I'd just take a 10% and call it good....I mean hey it's some points. However with the new thing with having to click all the answers, I ended up missing the round because I had no clue on a couple of the words and skipped them...forgot about the annoying pop up box when you don't answer all 10. So no points last hour....ran out of time by the time I went back up to find the ones I had missed and click something to make the system happy and scrolled back down to click submit. Which is aggervating. I guess this means there will be no more last minute frantically trying to get a round in.

Shawna

missestexas
Missestexas  (Level: 11.4 - Posts: 15)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:31 PM

I can understand the point that you bought something that turned out to be different than what you paid for and I respect that, but I also see that Platinum members still have GREAT advantage over Gold members.

I often tease you guys about having mutated... afterall you can get 10 correct answers in 20 seconds or less. So, you may not be able to "dump" if you reach a hard one, but you could peck out random answers and submit... if you can answer correctly in almost no time at all then you should be able to maintain an average of under 20 seconds a round.

If we give you 10 additional seconds to check out your score and start a new one you can realistically do over 100 rounds an hour... gold members are limited to 10. Even if we cut that 100 in half you have 5 times the opportunity to score big. So, there is still a great advantage to being a Platinum member.



joanneeberlin
Joanneeberlin  (Level: 184.5 - Posts: 686)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:33 PM

That's really good. Thanks for the info, Smoke and good luck getting the golden nugget (LOL)!

Jo

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 4:52 PM

I have used the "Enter" key instead of the "Submit" button as a speed-aid in W/Rs for quite some time.
Since becoming a Platinum member, I have often aborted a W/R if I am too slow getting the first or second items done, or if I strike a brain-dead patch!

I have not done any W/Rs since the new gold nuggets have become on offer........might be time to stake out a claim, and start a new gold rush in them thar Word Round hills?

~Bev

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 5:34 PM

I think that Platinum members ought not to be subject to the new restriction (which irritates me, too, even though I don't play seriously any more). Nor do I see how dumping a round you know you can't do well with is 'exploiting the system'.
____________________________________

SUGGESTION NO 1 - maybe there should be a time lag on it - dumping a round in say less than 5 seconds certainly sounds like someone just looking for nuggets, but if over 5 seconds has elapsed it's more likely to be a genuine WRer with a bad round?

SUGGESTION NO 2 - don't tell people it's a nugget round until they've completed it 100% and within the stipulated time. If they don't know they'll have to treat all rounds as nugget rounds!
____________________________________

That being said, Missestexas has a good point - if you can produce sub-20 second rounds with all the answers correct you can surely answer random questions even faster, so it shouldn't hold you up by much!

I can't even hit 10 random answers in less than 20 seconds - I cannot move the mouse accurately nor fast enough, and that's even without paying any attention whatsoever to the text of the questions/answers!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 5:52 PM

For me, it is, in a way, the difference between buying a 1st class ticket and buying a coach airline ticket. As a platinum member, I pay over triple what a gold member pays. Probably the same with airline tickets.

If I pay for 1st class airline tickets, its because I WANT to have the extra bonuses and extra things that come with it. If I bought a first class ticket and was then told that I didn't get priority boarding, I had to sit in coach seating, and got the same meal & service that the coach ticketholders did, so they could make everything more even for everyone on the plane, I would be furious. Kind of like I am now.

And to be told, well you guys are so good you don't need any extras is like sitting in first class and having someone in coach say, well you guys have the bigger seats, its not fair you get a meal or boarding advantage too. Not to mention the free drinks.

Yes it is fair because I pay for it. And if those benefits start going away, why on earth would I continue paying for them?

With things the way they are now, there is no way I will renew a platinum membership. It just makes no sense, financially. Hopefully Sploofus will realize if you want people to pay more money, you have to make it worth it. These new restrictions after the fact are not worth it.

Lodi

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 5:56 PM

Dang good analogy. Well said.

phitzy1
Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 6:10 PM


You said it more eloquently than I ever could have...

And one of the Perks is YES...UNLIMITED Word Rounds.

Just to make sure i understood the meaning, I looked up "Unlimited"

WordNet - Cite This Source

unlimited

adj 1: having no limits in range or scope; "to start with a theory of unlimited freedom is to end up with unlimited despotism"- Philip Rahv; "the limitless reaches of outer space" [syn: limitless] [ant: limited] 2: without reservation or exception [syn: outright, straight-out] 3: that cannot be entirely consumed or used up; "an inexhaustible supply of coal" [syn: inexhaustible]

For an annual $100 bucks (wow) I have these word rounds instead

WordNet - Cite This Source

restricted

adj 1: subject to restriction or subjected to restriction; "of restricted importance" [ant: unrestricted] 2: restricted in meaning; (as e.g. `man' in `a tall man') [syn: qualified] 3: curbed or regulated; "controlled emotions" [syn: controlled] 4: the lowest level of official classification for documents

seniorrita
Seniorrita  (Level: 140.1 - Posts: 223)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 6:28 PM

Did I miss a Civil War? I had two emergency surgeries, was in hospital 10 days and SPloofus has totally changed! I am reserving judgment at this time.... but stay tuned. I neded some Sploofus hugs while I was away and missed you guys! Don't worry... knee surgery is October 31 so you can get caught up then!

Rita

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 6:31 PM

As one who has actually taken a nugget round, I liked knowing ahead of time that it was a special round. Usually, I rocket through a round as fast as I can go and hope for the best.

With a nugget round, I know that I have two minutes to get 100%, so I can go slower and really focus on winning 100,000 points. So, I don't support the idea of letting a person know afterwards that it is a nugget round.

I thought it was fun.

Having said that, I really do miss the use of the "Enter" button.

Ducks ... runs for cover ....

Katy

joanneeberlin
Joanneeberlin  (Level: 184.5 - Posts: 686)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 7:28 PM

We can now use the ENTER button again - whew!! It was hard to break that habit. So what else has changed? It sometimes hard to keep up!! LOL

Jo

luvnmexsun
Luvnmexsun  (Level: 147.4 - Posts: 711)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 8:04 PM

So if I could afford first class, I'd never fly coach again. Alas...I'm still in coach. I don't have to compete with them though...they get seated first, their own bathroom and their own service....which they pay for. I am separate...squeezed "in the back of the bus" with the other poor blokes. That's life...no problem.

Maybe a FIRST CLASS word round game room should be instituted for plat members so they can enjoy their status.

I was plat since the option started, largely because I wanted to give back some of the great reward I get from being here: people, fun, challenge, and word rounds. When unlimited play became available for plats it changed the game, which I have expressed to all the word round crowd previously. Players were just as good as they are now, but there was more drama, as even the best would have to wait another hour to place after a bad run of ten tries. There was more change and chance. Having plat did not change my game.
I am a veteran of word rounds and enjoy playing immensely. Speed is not nor ever will be my forte...for many reasons. I wasn't raised with a mouse in my hand either...never touched one until my mid forties, and don't work using a computer, so I am truly an awkward bumpkin with this machine.

There are a lot of disparities in sploofus competition: time (many can't play at work), machine and connection differences, and such things as loss of connection during a game/glitches, etc. Luck also comes into play. These have nothing to do with any talent necessary to excel. Does money need to be an advantage?

I am totally unexperienced in the game playing world. Is it common to gain an advantage by paying for it? All I can think of is gambling/lotto kinds of things, not competition. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I do think the gold charge is reasonable for full competition. It's so minimal...and anyone with a computer can surely afford less than a dime a day for hours of play.

Surely there are other ways for plats to get fair perks. On the other issues: members should have been warned about the change in their play approach ("dumping" the round). It was rude to be slapped with it without warning, as Smoke was. The enter key problem will be fixed, as Justin said from the beginning...so that's not even an issue.

There is a fair resolution for all....we just need to work on it.


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