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kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.1 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:20 PM

WRS: IF THE CONCERN IS ABOUT NUGGET-HUNTING...

Justin,

One of the complaints some of your most dedicated users have had is that not only are they being banned from the hour's WR for over-aborting, which many of them have been doing as habit anyway, but also for the message they are receiving, suggesting that they are trying to cheat the system. On the contrary, these are Platinum users, who have paid for the right to start 1000 WRs per hour, who have been chain-rounding all along, and who want to keep doing so, and whose behavior has been minimally affected by The Nugget.

Now I can see why you think that some people might want to start-and-abort, start-and-abort, ad infinitum, until a nugget came up, but there's a very easy way around that, one that will let people quit for other reasons, but take the incentive out of aborting a WR in order to seek the nugget. Simply modify the nugget-genration algorithm, so that the nugget can only show in a person's first 2 or 5 or 10 or whatever WR attempts of the hour. And of course publicize that this has been done. Then there is no rush to get in your nuggetable rounds, and those who like to do 50 or 100 in an hour and optimize their scores can continue to do so.

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:28 PM

Excellent suggestion! WTG, Ken!


twoxfourman
Twoxfourman  (Level: 82.4 - Posts: 153)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:30 PM

I would suggest that a nugget appear only after the completion of a round, there should always be incentive to get 100%. If you bail, and see you missed a nugget, that's the chance you take.

skillet66
Skillet66  (Level: 83.5 - Posts: 210)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 3:35 PM

Both of the ideas are pretty good!!!

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 4:01 PM

Doesn't matter about the blasted nugget, if I can't use the enter key to submit I can't optimize my score. Why can't we have the nugget without taking away the enter key? And for pete's sake lose the pop-up nanny!

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 4:21 PM

Yep, both are great ideas. If I bail on a round and see I missed my chance at a nugget,...oh well.

It should be noted that A LOT of people play while at work. I'm sure there's a vast amount of 'Professional Sploofussers' out there. Sometimes I get a chance at a round with only 5 minutes left before it expires. Yeah, I know,..that's my problem to live with, but I hate plodding through an exercise of futility with the clock ticking away.

vettage
Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 4:23 PM

Smoke, Justin said yesterday in the WR shout that we would get the Enter Key back after he finishes up some language.

Out of habit I still put it up there, I'm sure I'm not alone.

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 4:47 PM

I have used the "Enter" key instead of the "Submit" button as a speed-aid in W/Rs for quite some time.
Since becoming a Platinum member, I have often aborted a W/R if I am too slow getting the first or second items done, or if I strike a brain-dead patch!

I have not done any W/Rs since the new gold nuggets have become on offer........might be time to stake out a claim, and start a new gold rush in them thar Word Round hills?

~Bev

gypsylady
Gypsylady  (Level: 142.8 - Posts: 6058)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 9:02 PM

I think it would be a good idea to not show the "Gold Nugget" until a round is completed. It takes all of my concentration to get 100% with any speed, and to me the "Gold Nugget" somewhere prior to the end of the round would be a distraction that would disrupt the rhytm you've achieved up to that point.

Just my opinion,
Marilyn...

tazmaniac72
Tazmaniac72  (Level: 188.0 - Posts: 213)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 10:41 PM

I got that message last night about 'cheating'. Obviously, I am chronic WR player, and I agree totally with Ken's comments. If I know by the 2nd or 3rd clue that I am not going to get them right, I'll go 'back' and try the next attempt. The unlimited rounds for Platinum gives me that ability and priviledge. Now...I did get the gold nugget, and I went reeeeal slow to try to get it, so actually I prefer to know before if it's a gold point attempt, so I simply don't back out of it. I am sooo glad that the 'enter' key is back!!! I think the gold nugget is a great add-on...easy for me to say, right????

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 11:10 PM

Cool. I don't feel like such a scumbag now.



HOORAY FOR PUTTING IT ALL BACK!



mindmonkey
Mindmonkey  (Level: 270.7 - Posts: 295)
Wed, 11th Oct '06 11:23 PM

Looks like everybody needs to step back a bit and take a deep breath. As I noted in a different thread last night, the word rounds weren't broken and didn't need a fix. The new system that forces people to do the whole round doesn't work and we ought to go back to the old way.

With that said, it's also true that Sploofus is constantly innovating and I've seen nothing but praise for all of the other innovations we've had in word rounds--like providing the definitions or the new word game, etc. When you are constantly trying to innovate to make the site better, you are going to come up with some great things--and that's what usually happens here. But, occasionally there are going to be some duds. That's a good description of this one. When there's a dud, it's best for sploofus to just admit it, fix the thing and move on. As to the members, we all ought to feel free to tell sploofus the problem, admit to ourselves that it was only a mistake (not some designed thing to hurt anybody) and also move on.

I'm pretty conservative on things like this. Personally, I would fix what's already here and conserve those elements first. So, if I had to make the choices, I would spend the time to get the picture puzzle and the sound game back on line. However, I still must admire somebody like Justin who spends time developing all of these new and innovative facets for the site. Not many of us have this level of inspiration.


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