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redsox9
Redsox9  (Level: 154.6 - Posts: 1291)
Fri, 25th Jun '10 9:49 AM

GO USA

So if Ghana loses to USA does that mean they are Gone-a?

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.7 - Posts: 2301)
Fri, 25th Jun '10 10:07 AM

They just moved up to round 2, so I don't think so.

Hey, you Brits and others much more savvy than us stupid Yanks. How exactly does this round robin work????


mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Fri, 25th Jun '10 7:01 PM

I hope they're "gone-a". It would be very cool to win one in this round, wouldn't it? So YES, go USA!!!

BBear: It's no longer a round robin in round 2. If you lose you go home.


wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.7 - Posts: 911)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 2:15 AM

Yep it's a knockout competition from here on. Extra time and penalties will decide drawn games.
I see no reason why USA can't beat Ghana. This afternoon's game Uruguay v S. Korea will determine who USA could play in the Quater-finals. I'll be supporting them as long as they don't meet up with England.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 6:23 AM

Yep, make or break from now on. Could be a great match. I'll be watching you US - good luck!

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 12:07 PM

Well, if we beat Ghana, it's Uraguay for USA. S. Korea gave them a good game.

Go USA!!!

irishpainter
Irishpainter  (Level: 156.3 - Posts: 224)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 1:00 PM

I'm afraid to say tonight will be as far as Team USA will go, Ghana will have too much firepower for them, the only way that they will win is if Ghana gift them a goal the same way England did. imho .

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.7 - Posts: 911)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 2:26 PM

I totally disagree. I think you are overestimating Ghana and underestimating USA. They have had great results all the way along in the last year. I don't think Ghana's "firepower" will trouble the USA. I can see USA winning this with no problem.

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.7 - Posts: 911)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 3:31 PM

Oh boy! USA 0-1 Ghana HT. The USA team froze that half. They looked like they'd seen a ghost. They need to be much sharper in the second half. I still believe! Go USA!

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.7 - Posts: 911)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 6:53 PM

Commiserations to the USA. It just didn't go for them.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sat, 26th Jun '10 10:09 PM

Sad to watch for me...Ghana beat us on those 50/50 balls and were a quicker team also in the first half. That sluggish first half cost the USA. We had our chances but didn't finish. Our set plays didn't produce anything special that I saw. The better team won today. Great job winning the group, USA!

Now England and Germany....Go England!!!

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 6:07 AM

Don't mention the war!
Some of our newspapers are already in trouble with headlines such a "Sun & Hun" etc.!
Will I be able to survive 6 heart attacks in 90 minutes? ...................

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 10:57 AM

I hope you do. That "non-goal" must have counted as at least three.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 12:29 PM

Don't even talk to me for a month ..................

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 1:42 PM

I'm not un-American; but I knew Ghana would win. Ghana had more experience. We'll be back in 4 years much stronger and more talented and take it. It won't be like watching the Chicago Cubs either.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 4:15 PM

More experienced? They have the youngest team in South Africa!

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 4:17 PM

Forgive me, but I think it's a generational thing.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 4:28 PM

In my case, it's degenerational.

bigmama60
Bigmama60  (Level: 95.2 - Posts: 6648)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 4:35 PM

Don't worry we'll be the champions in four years.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 7:32 PM

The goals being missed by the officials are really marring this World Cup. Today's changed the whole complex of the game between England and Germany. The USA almost didn't get past the group stage because of two missed goals.

FIFA's looking for the perfect solution, but for the time being they just need to latch onto something better.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sun, 27th Jun '10 8:49 PM

I agree, Andy. Most teams have suffered from some sort of bad call. The goal for England didn't change the eventual outcome of the game but it may have changed the emotional level for the second half. What could have happened is anyone's guess...if I were from England I'd believe that with all my heart!

I have my doubts that anything will change. It generates interest and probably puts more pressure on the those who officiate. FIFA is paying attention and that's a good thing. I'm sad that the USA is out of it but I DO love the World Cup.

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 3:37 AM

I disagree, Maureen. Yesterday's missed goal changed the whole complexion of the game.

Teams play quite differently at 2-1 than at 2-2, especially in an elimination match.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.9 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 4:51 AM

Yeh, right, it certainly had a direct bearing.
Amazing that the goal was so blatantly videoed all over that the goal couldn't have been awarded at half-time. Wasn't even a marginal decision. Archaic.
England, in the 2nd. half, therefore had to go for goals, leaving their defence open, and the need for goals became more desperate as the game wore on = more defence errors!
At 2-2 they'd have played their normal more sober game.
Nevetheless, there were still bad deficiencies in the England play.
I feel a genuine result between two good teams would have been a draw (but which, on paper, England should have won). England would probably then have customarily lost on penalties anyway!
Oh - I forgot - I'm not talking for a month!

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 5:18 AM

Actually England, having bounced back from 0-2 to tie the match, would have had the upper hand.

To my way of thinking the President of FIFA (Seth Blah-Blah) has a lot of explaining to do.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 5:53 AM

Petty dictators seldom explain.

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 6:30 AM

I said what you did, Andy. You just didn't agree with the way I articulated it. The final score would make it appear that that the second goal didn't matter but of course starting the second half tied would have. Why would I have said- if I were from England I would believe that with all my heart.

Semantics, semantics...

collioure
Collioure  (Level: 104.9 - Posts: 9952)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 1:51 PM

Maureen, even though you qualified it, you did write this

"The goal for England didn't change the eventual outcome of the game"

Well, it may well have changed the outcome of the game.

wordster
Wordster  (Level: 159.7 - Posts: 911)
Mon, 28th Jun '10 5:32 PM

England didn't look themselves in any of the games. What a horror show that was. Surely Mr. Blatter can't ignore the need for technology aftyer that disallowed goal can he? And Mr. Capello says he isn't resigning .....yet!


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