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sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:31 PM

QUIZ POSTERS WHO RUN THE BOARD

I realize with membership you can make as many quizzes as you want to, but it happened again - someone had seven quizzes accepted at once, and ran my new quizzes off the front page.

Sure, the rules say you can do it, but it would be nice if common courtesy would cross people's minds. Let other people get their quizzes played, too.

Perhaps there could be a way to have links to the different sections, and each section - like movies, FITB, etc. will have their own front pages people HAVE to go to that would showcase all the new quizzes in that category.

As it is now, you can click to the movies trivia page, and see a long list of recent quizzes, but it doesn't tell you which ones you have already played and more importantly, most people don't go to these category section pages. They simply play the quizzes on the front page.

Also - how many more "FITB Tom Hanks movies", or "Co-stars of Reese Witherspoon" quizzes do we need? Can't that be its own section? Actors and Actresses Trivia or something. Or simply put a stoppage on them for a while?




bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:37 PM

MANY members will entirely agree with you!!!
~Bev

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:38 PM

Madine I had 12 quizzes go live in quite quick succession.
However it was 3 quizzes into each of 4 different categorie so I presume it was not me that you were referring to.
Perhaps it was.

I have noticed though that the editors are editing quizzes at a very fast speed, in fact the ones that i had that got launched on wednesday are already off of the front page.

If you click on a category within a category it does only show the ones that you have not yet taken.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:40 PM

Plus the categories MOVIES, MUSIC and FILL IN THE BLANK are always the most popular categories.


baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:51 PM

Ok just thought I would add this.

I now know it was not me you were referring too, i can get the toys back in the pram now.

A few months ago I went through a stage of writing many quizzes on the same topic quickly and i got messages from other players to 'give them a chance'.
The fact that they said in a civil way made me listen to it.

So now I will only ever release 3 quizzes into any one category at the same time (although I may some days compose 9 quizzes, 3 each into 3 categories)

Some people may say that even that is not too fair but at the end of the day I have paid my money so as to write more and more quizzes and I will continue to do so because I feel I launch them so I am not stepping on anyones toes and if I was I would hope that they would say so. (in fact I know that they would).

Madine I know exactly why you are saying it, because you are probably losing out on people taking your quiz if had been up there longer and for that I can sympathise.

This is the kind of problem that has been discussed before


sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:55 PM

There is no need to post 7 quizzes in the same category, each of the same "genre" besides trying to intentionally make sure only your quizzes get played. I am not knocking the smarts behind the manuever - I am complaining that people are lacking the common courtesy, and the editors (while I enjoyed the quick turnaround for my quizzes these past few days) are letting this "running of the board" to happen.

And can't they not accept YET ANOTHER of the same old Tom Hanks movies- kind of quiz?
Can't they simply say "We have a lot of these kinds of quizzes"

I did a quiz on The Back to the Future Trilogy a while back. Do a quiz search how many other Back to the Future quizzes there are. Then do a Tom Hanks search. Reese Witherspon seach. If you haven't played any, you will see hundreds. Even if you have played some, there are still so many.

The point I am trying to make is three-fold.
1) People shouldn't be allow to monopolize the front page, should let other quiz writers get their quizzes played.
2) Perhaps they should stop letting so many of the same types or literally the same quizzes be accepted over and over. Perhaps if there are two hundred "Matt Damon Movies" quizzes already, we don't need any more.
3) Perhaps the category pages need to be revamped, so that more people's quizzes get "face time" and this problem would be completely eliminated. And therefore there would be room for the endless "Friends Trivia" quizzes or whathaveyou.

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 4:58 PM

I hear you - you pay your money, you can do what you want. Makes perfect sense. I joined the site so I can write more quizzes when I want to and to play the fun Word games as well.

I did send a private message to this user. I don't know if it has been read yet. And I don't know if it will make a difference. But perhaps it will. I am willing to give this person the benefit of the doubt, that common courtesy and fair play will make a difference in the future.



baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 5:04 PM

Madine first I am going to deal with your three points.

1)Define Monopolize?
Are we to say that people can only right 1 quiz in 1 subject until it is knocked out of the front page?
Where do we draw the line? is 2 ok? is 3 ok? is 5 too many? (obviously more than that is definetly unacceptable.
2) I have no idea how this could be achieved although I do agree that there are far too many similar quizzes out there.
3) Presumably you mean something like every quiz is allowed on the front page for something like 3 days or so?

Personally, I have no problem with someone launching 3 quizzes into a category at the same time and if anyone does have a problem with it they haven't come moaning to me about doing it.
I would also say that any more is pushing it just a bit too far.

I would also like to say that only one of your quizzes got knocked off of the front page but that is beside the point.

What if 7 people had each written a quiz on that topic that would have knocked you off anyway but I presume it is the fact that it was the same person with 7?

Anyway, I am only saying this to see if anyone else wants to start discussing it as a problem because it may be the only way to get it changed/ or not.

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 5:21 PM

Monopolize: To dominate by excluding others. (from dictionary.com)

That is exactly what I mean.

And yes, three seems to be a fair number. Especially when it is practically THE EXACT SAME QUIZ. No time was really spent trying to give the quiz-taker a challenge. It is blatent what the quiz-poster is doing - trying to push others out for his quizzes to be seen.

That would be eliminated if a 3-quiz per category rule were in effect. Or if 30 quizzes per category were showcased on the front page, or if the front page was completely revamped, or BLATENTLY REDUNDANT quizzes were not accepted by the editors to go live on Sploofus.

I would love to hear others thoughts on this. Please post your ideas or thoughts on this topic.

Thanks

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 5:39 PM

Perhaps the best (and fairest) thing would be if a system similar to the one on the main front page were to be instigated on the Trivia Quizzes page - each author will only have one entry on the 'front' page, showing their most recent quiz, but by clicking on the plus-sign next to the quiz you can see all the other ones currently available by that author?

Otherwise, I agree that there should be a limit on the number of quizzes you can have - either ~three on the frontpage at a time (release another and it'll knock *your* oldest off the board without affecting others around it by other authors), or limit the number of quizzes someone can release at a time, eg one per category per day.

Thoughts, anyone?

(Justin?)

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Fri, 17th Nov '06 5:55 PM

Just so you know, the editors are not "letting this "running of the board" to happen." The quiz editing system is set up in such a way that it would be very difficult to show preferential treatment to anyone, even if we wanted to - which we don't. We have no control over what order the quizzes come in. We don't see the quizzes in the queue, we just know how many there are. We don't even see the next quiz/author/topic etc... until we click on "Select a quiz" and the entire quiz opens up on a new page. Then once the quiz is opened, it's ours and can't be sent back to the queue or to another editor. We can't even select another quiz until that particular quiz is either approved or sent back to the author. So we have no way of knowing there are multiple quizzes by the same author. And even if we did, it would hardly be fair to hold them up and let others go by. Just imagine the uproar any kind of preferential treatment would cause!

Sploofus Maximus



kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 6:09 PM

According to your definition you would be creating another monopoly by disallowing or limiting a quiz topic. The old users would have the monopoly on a certain topic (and the quiz points earned by those quizzes) and the new users would be excluded or at least limited. That doesn't seem fair either.

We have discussed this before in various threads. Personally I don't like the tons of quizzes on a certain topic either, but I don't think limiting the topic is fair either. I just don't take those quizzes and spend a little time looking for the quizzes I do like. Someone is taking those overdone quizzes or else authors wouldn't keep writing them. Remember there are thousands of non-gold users who don't have a voice here in the forums.

Beth

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 10:38 PM

In view of Sploofusmaximus's comments, perhaps the idea of three quizzes on the category's 'front' page, and the fourth by the same author would bump his/her oldest off regardless of position, would be a good one.

(1) It would be something that could be programmed into the system with no human intervention needed (similar programming to that which bumps the bottom quiz as a new one is added),

(2) it would be up to the quiz authors to keep an eye on the category front page so they know when they can release another quiz in that category without bumping one of their own, and

(3) it would mean that the editors don't have to do anything other than what they do now, just check and release the quizzes as they come up.

Seems sinsible (and workable!) to me?

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 10:39 PM

Sensible, even (rather than 'sinsible') ...

ravenslight
Ravenslight  (Level: 10.5 - Posts: 110)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 10:45 PM

I can say that I often post 3-5 quizzes at a time. The way that I work, 12 hour shifts on a 2-2-3 schedule at night, with another hour in travel time. I generally do not post any quizzes on days that I work, heck I am lucky if I remember to feed all the critters, do a load of laundry and eat. So, when I got off , I generally sit down and put to paper or in this case, computer screen ideas that have been bouncing around in the pinball machine I call my head. I tend to hyperfocus, sit write, write, write and then do nothing for several days.. so i am not sure about everyone. It all depends on what i am thinking about, usually my quizzes are spread out between 3-4 categories but every now and again, especially with general.. they all go in one place.. Not defending anyone, but I know I have launched as many as five in a day, of course it might be a week before another one goes up
nicole

ravenslight
Ravenslight  (Level: 10.5 - Posts: 110)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 10:56 PM

Here is another thought. When I first started my quizzes did not get taken often. Now, I can generally count on most quizzes getting an average of 25 hits with many of them up around 100.

I make it a point to try to look at each quiz and then click on the different people who have taken my quizzes and take a quiz or two on their pages. I often end up taking quizzes on things that I thought I knew nothing about. OK, I have taken several with 0% score, that I rank the quiz, usually really well, because it was hard, but awesomely well done about an interesting topic. I have found on days where I do not take any quizzes that I do not get many of my own quizzes taken, when I take 5-10 quizzes then I get a lot of hits to my quizzes. Now, do not get me wrong, I have a handful of quizzes that are very, very specific in their topic and they do not have a lot of hits. I mean not many people want a quiz about Everest.. but hey, what the heck

I have found the more quizzes you take, the more people will take yours. Also, recipricate, if someone takes your quiz, make it a point to take theirs.. and you will see your numbers increase 10 fold
hint, i had a very experienced player on this site suggest it to me when i made a comment in a message about how many quizzes they had, and how many had all 30 top slots filled.

nicole

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Fri, 17th Nov '06 11:37 PM

Re writing bunches of quizzes, that's perfectly understandable - but what you don't have to do is launch all the quizzes as soon as you write them. I often have half a dozen or more quizzes finished and ready to release, but I space out the releases so on the weeks when I don't have time to write I still have something to release.

Of course, then there are times like now when I haven't had time to write and I've run out of ready-to-go quizzes ...! lol

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.8 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 5:55 AM

Madine - I absolutely agree with you. I recently wrote a Movie category quiz (it's only my 2nd in that category in well over 100 quizzes) and it was on the front page just about one day. Then someone came along and wrote 7 movie quizzes in a row - and bam! - it was gone. Of course, if you use the drop down menu and select for category, it is still visible, but I don't know how many people do that.

What I think is interesting is that the person who is writing the 7 quizzes also pushes himself off the main page. Maybe if folks thought about that, they wouldn't do it.

Fortunately, for me as a writer, my favorite categories are the less popular ones - Science, Food, the Arts. Of course, that backfires because since they are less popular, fewer people take the quizzes. I have found the only answer is to write one about candy! People love candy! LOL

I think Beryl's answer is a good one. Only a few visible by the same author in any given category at a time. I would think that would be doable, but Justin seems to have quite a lot on his plate at the moment.

You might be heartened if you do a search of your written quizzes to see how many people take old ones. Every once in a while I pull up my list under "your quizzes" and search that day's date. A surprising number of people take old quizzes. So, just realize that they are not dead, just because they are off the front page.

Alice

mskillian
Mskillian  (Level: 65.1 - Posts: 226)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 8:47 AM

I have a lot respect for people that can launch multiple quizzes at a time. Me - I have never launched more than one quiz at a time because honestly, I put a lot of effort into researching my quiz topics and it takes a lot of time just to write that one. Kudos to those who don't need as much time as I do however, I don't think I'm in the minority here.

I've long been of the thought, unpopular that it might me, that one quiz per day should be the limit. If you want to write a bunch of quizzes all at once, so be it - good for you and excellent for the Sploofus system, but with thousands of members, 1 quiz each per day is plenty and puts everyone on a level playing field. Why does anyone need to launch multiple quizzes at once? When our site was young and we had quizzes that numbered in the hundreds, that was understandable, but why now?

I can see where it is discouraging for a new quiz writer to put a lot of work into writing a quiz, wait patiently while the 'Editors' take a look at at and then watch it get launched. Then to see someone come a long and wipe it off the page? Yeah, it would make me less than enthused about writing another one.

Morrie

ravenslight
Ravenslight  (Level: 10.5 - Posts: 110)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 9:02 AM

I can honestly say if I was limited to one quiz per day that I would not keep paying for membership. I use dialup so I am utterly non-conpetitve at the word rounds and word matches, which I play, but as soon as I meet my goal, which is below 60 seconds and 100% I quit. I do usually one word puzzle a day, sometimes two if I can leave the building to gain access to a wireless net and then I play the night time word puzzle.. I work 7 to 7 central so the only way i get to play the other one is to play at lunch if I have time to go gain access to a wireless net.

I spend a good deal of time researching my quizzes as well but I also try to write them about things that I have learned on this journey or topics that already interest me. I do not generally write on topics that I know nothing about. My quizzes are not simply rehashing of old quizzes.. I have at least 15 quizzes that there is not another quiz on the topic at all. I have several that are one of less than five quizzes on a topic.. so I think that you are all lumping everyone together.

I do not have the patience to write a quiz and then wait to launch it, i just as well not write it if that were the case.

and i choose the quizes I take by one of two ways
from those that have taken my quizzes or by topic searches. I almost never take a quiz from the front page

nicole

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 9:22 AM

If they limited the number of quizzes that could be launched a day I would definetly stop paying and using sploofus, simple as that.

Mskillan I take your point about researching but just because some do not take a long time to research quizzes does not mean that the quizzes are bad or just a rehash of other quizzes.

I stand by the fact that since being a gold member I have written a huge amount of quizzes and also had many many people take my quizzes.
In fact the average number of people that take my quizzes is sitting at well over 50 per quiz. Considering that a lot of my quizzes are about UK based stuff I am very pleased for that to be the case.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 9:25 AM

If people can't agree then why not just do away with the front page for quizzes?

Giving everyone an open playing field.

allena
Allena  (Level: 256.0 - Posts: 1393)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 9:30 AM

This debate is exciting...to see so many opinions. I suspect no one would write multiple quizzes on the same subject if they were not taken. However, folks take them, I guess.

I also think that the site has grown in categories and will continue to grow so that folks can have more quizzes to research without going to a back page. For example: Movies could be categorized so that we hae three sites instead of one...same with fill-in the blanks and television...the three most popular.

I agree with Alice and hope that we do not limit anything that is a free expression. There is a tendency sometimes to punish great effort, "no good deed goes unpunished." I think the multiple quiz writers are great for the site, deserve compliments not hassle. I certainly understand what it is like to see a quiz disappear in 16 hours. But, I paid my money, I know the rules and ..

ravenslight
Ravenslight  (Level: 10.5 - Posts: 110)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 9:39 AM

I agree, I have seen my quizzes pushed off the front pages in hours, but in all honesty, I do not think that majority of people that take my quizzes chose them from there. I could be wrong, but considering that i sort of obsess over it and check the your quizzes section 100 times a day and have them list in order of last taken. Of the quizzes taken in the last 3 days of mine, 70% were written over two weeks ago, which means, that the quiz takers are finding them another way.

I agree that it might be time for certain sections to be subdivided again... so that they are few quizzes in those huge categories.

There are only so many questions you can ask about Dirty Dancing, yet hands down, it is the quiz that has gotten the most number of hits. Why, pop culture, or at least American Pop Culture.. for my generarion it was just an part of it..

I think that well written quizzes will get taken, even if they are on unsual topics. I know that I take quizzes from quiz writers that I respect all the time, even when I am clueless which is often

My biggest suggestion, take a lot of quizzes, it helps get your quizzes taken...
nicole

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 11:56 AM

I do take a lot of quizzes, I always try to take quizzes from those who take mine.
So yes, I agree with all of that.

But I still have a problem with the system of approving the quizzes. I Appriciate the editor posting how it works - and I am glad for the quicker release time lately for quizzes.

But there is still room in the process for editors to see that the quiz is another TOM HANKS MOVIES quiz (insert overused topic here). And they don't have to approve it.

And so there has to be a way to prevent this running of the board to happen - but with the response of the staff posted, and the reaction of the people who posted here - the question may now be - "Does the management of this site see this as a legitimate problem?".

I do not make these super hard quizzes. I make a variety of pop-culture quizzes, some really easy, some really hard. But not on topics that are "tired" in my opinion.

When I made an attempt to research and develop a quiz, my "What is Your Poo IQ" quiz, it took me a really long time to do. And what happened? It was knocked off the front page fairly quickly. So I stopped putting the time in to develop "high-concept" quizzes.

I love those kinds of quizzes, and play them whenever possible. But I think these "co-stars of Ben Affleck" kinds of quizzes and then permitting an author to post 7 of them at a time will eventually lead to the end of Sploofus. For that will be all that will be created by users who want the points.



sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 12:05 PM

I have another solution as well:

Look at the front page, go to the movies section. Practically all about CELEBRITIES, MOVIE STARS. Not movies.

Make a seperate category for Actors and Actresses. or CELEBRITIES. A completely different section about famous people. That would include their roles in movies, TV, etc. And you can include musicians, authors, etc.

The Movies category would then be about movie plots or quotes, trilogies, behind the scenes stuff ,etc. NOT movie stars or their roles. And that would free up the TV category as well for questions about the actual shows. And sure, some of the questions in these quizzes will enevitably be like "Who played Mary Richards", just not all of them.

The editors will have to make sure the quizzes are in the proper category. Other than that, there should still be efforts put in place to make sure that one quiz creator cannot have 7 new quizzes at a time. No one should be allowed to run the board.

ravenslight
Ravenslight  (Level: 10.5 - Posts: 110)
Sat, 18th Nov '06 12:30 PM

I think that if quiz writers were limited to one a day and if you could not write about topics that some feel are overused, I think that a lot of the site would be hurt. Look at the top ten overall players. I believe that only one of them has even written a quiz. If you look closely , you will find that the vast majority of people have not written any quizzes, then some of the people have written 5-10 quizzes and very few other people have written more than 20 quizzes.
I understand the frustration that you feel. i spent a good bit of time researching Hunter Thompson, who I find interesting and that I find intersting and it is one of the quizzes that I have written with the fewest takers..
I have found that rather than spend a couple of days pouring through books and searching the internet for info. Now I do not exactly write pop culture quizzes, but I write about things that I already have some knowledge about, that I have strong interest in, so that I do not have to spend hours on writing quizzes, as well as I generally write quizzes for me first, and for everyone else here second. I really enjoy the whole idea of writing the quizzes, trying to develop fair and challenging questions.

I think that this helps with the frustration level. I have had quizzes disappear over and over in just a few hours. It happens, then you just write a new quiz and put it out there.

Nicole

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Sun, 19th Nov '06 11:02 PM

I also think a lot of quizzes in the Movies and TV section are miscatergorized. They are essentially fill-in-the-blank quizzes. Like the ones now in the TV section about the greatest cartoons. You play them and you will see. The Tom Hanks movies and the quizzes like them are just questions like "Turner and " and gives you choices to fill in the end of the movie title.

If the question was "In this movie, Tom Hanks played a police officer with a very special partner - a dog" or something like that, then sure, that belongs in the Movies section. Or, as I suggested earlier, the seperate Celebrities category or Actor and Actress category I think Sploofus should add.

Perhaps the editors, if they cannot stop folks from posting too many quizzes at the same time or posting the same inane quizzes over and over, at least they can make these quiz writers categorize their quizzes properly.

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Sun, 19th Nov '06 11:05 PM

I was mistaken - the TV cartoons in in the Fill-in-the-blanks section.

But the point is still valid. I just used an inaccurate example.

My mistake and apologies.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofusmaximus (Editor)  
Sun, 19th Nov '06 11:23 PM

I should also have added that if you see a quiz categorized incorrectly, you can always send off a note to the author or report the quiz to Sploofus.

jenpsmith
Jenpsmith  (Level: 121.8 - Posts: 64)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 4:00 AM

I'm fairly new but... I like to work on writing one quiz and then wait to see how it is received by quiz takers before writing another one. Why bother writing 7 quizes on a topic if nobody is interested in that topic, or write various quizes at once and find that people turn away from my quiz writing. As I said, I'm new so this might not apply to everyone.



surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.3 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 4:31 AM

Well, some people seem intent on hitting the 'most quizzes written' leader boards, and/or getting the points from mass writing (usually about, therefore, those subjects already listed ad nauseam on many other sites).

I don't see the point at all myself.

I'd have thought a '1 or 2 quiz per day' limit for writers wouldn't have annoyed most.

There are other things in life!

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 4:43 AM

I don't care about being on any leaderboard from writing quizzes.
I don't write quizzes that are just re-hashes of other ones. (I don't write 'cheap' quizzes either. Not for me the FITB or who starred in this movie, well at least not many of them)

I will continue to write as many quizzes as I want and as long as people continue to take them and tell me what they think of them then it will continue.

But also in the interests of fairness I will not launch more than 3 into one category on any one day and will normally wait until they are off of the front page before launching more into that category.

And if that is not good enough for anyone then I have yet to see them say so.

ravenslight
Ravenslight  (Level: 10.5 - Posts: 110)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 9:23 AM

I have to agree with Baggibob. I write quizzes for the most part on more unusual topics. Do not get me wrong, if it involves the 80's I have written a few. The vast majority are about topics that I find interesting, dressage for example, Everest, Thomas Hunter, Field Medicine, US Air Force, Helicopters, Saddle Seat equitation, not exactly what you can call pop culture. True, I have written a couple of what song is this quizes, lyrics for some unusual types, mostly 70's, with one band that is still popular but I only used works that went up to 1984.. I do not think that some of us who write quizzes do it for mass points... I have been in the top ten quiz writers but that is not my goal. All you have to do it take a look at the number of quizzes that I have taken since joining. I enjoy writing quizzes and taking quizzes. Problem is that often I can not find quizzes on topics that I enjoy. I have taken the quizzes on my favorite subjects.. and now just take what I can find to reciprocate..

I think that it would hurt the site to limit quiz writing or even subject beyond what the rules are.. There are a ton of patrick swayze and dirty dancing quizzes yet those are some of my quizzes that have the most hits.

Nicole

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.7 - Posts: 964)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 10:08 AM

I KNOW WHAT! JUST PAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES AND THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEMS, Mitchy


baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 10:37 AM

Mitchy who doesn't pay (sorry if i misread what youre saying) surely only paying members can post messages?

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 10:55 AM

Or Mitchy did you mean PLAY?

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.7 - Posts: 964)
Mon, 20th Nov '06 4:44 PM

You know what... yes that's It-----I meant play as in "Cant We All Just Get Along?" I'm sorry! I have no business involving myself in that conversation.My fat foot Is In my big mouth.Really what I meant is If you can only write 2 quizzes because of your membership, than upgrade. Really thats what I was insinuating. No harm Intended.
Mitchy


captaintony
Captaintony  (Level: 79.5 - Posts: 75)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 12:06 AM

for my money, you could drop the FITB quizzes all the way around... I despise the things... and the endless repitition that comes with them is indeed frustrating for those of us who spend time building a quiz, only to see it jammed off the listings by yet another FITB for "Tom Hanks Titles" or "'Friends' Characters" quiz... I know I;m gonna get flamed for saying this, but I refuse to do FITB quizzes just to pad my point levels OR because they are easy to do... okay, fire when ready.... LOL

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 12:41 AM

Ka-boom! Fired....didn't hurt, did it? As a quiz taker, not a quiz author, I don't particularly like FITBs unless it's on a Tuesday after the Sunday my cat yelled at me for not giving her salmon and the moon is waxing. Or whatever. Figure that out.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.3 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 3:41 AM

I think that's why FITBs were quarantined off into their own section, so as not to infect everyone else!

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.8 - Posts: 3302)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 5:37 AM

In the thousands and thousands of quizzes I have taken, I think I have taken maybe 2 FITBs. I generally don't even look at that category. I try to skim down the category lists at some point during the day to see which look interesting - and then when I do one I really like, I click on the others of that puzzlemaker, and go through their list, and do a bunch more of that author's till I get tired of it.

That is also the only way to see some of the really old quizzes - some of which are awful (pre-editors, and, apparently pre-a lot of rules) and some of which are really fun.

Alice

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 11:48 AM

I like being quite vocal on this subject because of the number of quizzes I write.

I have noticed that there are many people who do quizzes either because someone else has done theirs or they look for interesting quizzes by searching from them.
IT seems that only a small number of regular quiz takers actually take quizzes just from the front pages.



kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 12:07 PM

Don't forget about all of the non-gold members. In this post there have only been about 14 users commenting out of 16,000. We don't really know how the masses select their quizzes. I wonder if there is someway for Sploofus to track how people are finding the quizzes they take.

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 12:11 PM

Kravfighter, I take your point completely, that is why i said regular quiz takers, i meant ones who are paying members.

To be honest I don't care if my quizzes get knocked off of the front page quickly because they still get taken.

I suppose that is why they brought in the thing where you can 'see' when one of your favourite authors has written a new quiz.

At the end of the day you cannot please everyone all the time and finding a happy medium is just as hard.
But at least we know Justin and the editors are doing such an all-round good job.

geophile
Geophile  (Level: 159.7 - Posts: 1521)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 12:37 PM

Some interesting responses here....do a Religion quiz...you can stay there all month!

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 8:34 PM

I have been reading all of your posts. Several months ago I was a prolific quiz writer and competitor in that area. I had VERY decided opinions on top 25 and being bumped from the front page and said so frquently. Of course I opposed the rash of rock star and sitcom quizzes-most likely because I knew nothing about them. In a HUFF- i quit POOhF!!!Gone!!! I used to write under my own name of Linda. I hurt no one but myself-starting at the bottom again-a dose of humility, perhaps. I now use Heidi, my daughter's name, and have wrtten a couple and will write more-clueless how to please this varied group-just my thoughts-Heidi (Linda)

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 9:11 PM

This seems like a good time for a well-rounded, non-echoing QUACK!

ummagumma
Ummagumma  (Level: 67.4 - Posts: 186)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 9:36 PM

Tuz - I don't know what you mean, but I am sure it is funny - Anyhoo, check out my latest Tom Hanks quiz.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 9:36 PM

You nailed the problem exactly Linda! There is no way to please everyone - with so many members that's just too many people who want things their own way - which is simply not always going to be what everyone else wants. Someone is not going to be happy no matter what. I think Justin does a great job of TRYING to please everyone. I overlook the things I don't like (especially if it's something that I know someone else does like) and enjoy the many more things I do like about the site.

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 9:56 PM

Ummagumma, you wise guy.

And the Editors let it go through. Even after the blatent references to this topic thread.

But I do have to say - I did laugh when I read the title and then the description. To be a good sport, I will take the quiz, Ummagumma.

But it looks like other who regularly write these types of quizzes who haven't posted here are still up to their old ways.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Tue, 21st Nov '06 10:00 PM

The moral to one of Aesop's Fables is: "He who tries to please everybody pleases nobody."

captaintony
Captaintony  (Level: 79.5 - Posts: 75)
Wed, 22nd Nov '06 12:24 AM

You speak wisely, young Jedi.... there is no "try," only "do."

jenpsmith
Jenpsmith  (Level: 121.8 - Posts: 64)
Wed, 22nd Nov '06 3:26 AM

One thing that might be useful (but I have no idea how practical) would be to have more categories for topics where there are lots of quizes. As a quiz taker, it doesn't matter how many quizes are on the site, as long as I can navigate to the ones I am interested in (although 'pot luck' is fun sometimes too).

For example, I like 80s music, but find the task of trawling through the generic 80s music section rather daunting. Again, that's just me though.

To be constructive, my suggestion is: if someone was to write an extended series of music quizes, why not have a sub section called "Joe Blogs 80s Music Challenge" or something. It gives that author the opportunity to have their series presented as a whole. It also separates it from the other quizes in that genre. Just an idea - and I appreciate that my ideas usually mean a whole lot of work for somebody that isn't me.

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 261.3 - Posts: 2770)
Wed, 22nd Nov '06 3:42 AM

Yep Krayfighter, yours is the way!

sundance1969
Sundance1969  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 74)
Thu, 30th Nov '06 9:59 AM

Well, going out in a blaze of glory, a Tom Hanks movie quiz shot to the top of the userboard in one day.

Since those quizzes are no longer accepted, we will see what will replace them....

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.6 - Posts: 478)
Thu, 30th Nov '06 2:10 PM

Madine, can I ask what do you mean, 'since those quizzes are no longer accepted ...'? Are some types of quizzes now banned?

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Thu, 30th Nov '06 3:39 PM

See the thread in the Hotwire, or read the updated version of the SQAG.


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