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Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 14th Dec '06 9:04 AM


This is an issue I've asked about before but never got a response; last night's "Say it with Numbers" puzzle raises the question again. Should there (and could there) be a guideline or a general agreement among editors in regard to spacing vs separation of initials and contractions?

In a name beginning with two initials, could it please be established one way or the other whether they should be separated, or grouped together to appear to be a 2-letter word? And now a new question rears its evil head: if "don't," "man's," and "we'll" all appear as one 4-letter word, why should "o'clock" be separated and rendered as two words?

In the weird world of puzzlemaniacs, a little consistency is a wonderful thing.


Garrybl  (Level: 291.8 - Posts: 6772)
Thu, 14th Dec '06 10:31 AM

I agree; speaking as a WP newbie I lost three moves on an LA/US or L A /U S issue and thought I was duplicating what was in the puzzle.

Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Thu, 14th Dec '06 5:09 PM

Good one Smokie, that's *ahem* puzzled me also, on several occasions.

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Sploofizz (Editor)  
Thu, 14th Dec '06 9:52 PM

I will present this issue to the editors and see if we can agree on a style guide. Then hopefully we can let you know as well! I do think you will have to keep your own eyes open for the alternate spelling issues though.

In the meantime, keep an eye on the "hints" at the bottom of each puzzle. I know I wrote one with an extra long word that I split up into three parts, but I warned you all with my "hint".

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 14th Dec '06 10:22 PM

Okay, I'm a reasonable woman. I can take my lumps on the initials, but can we at least agree that an apostrophe in a contraction (don't, shouldn't, you're, O'CLOCK ) should never be represented by a space? That way madness lies.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 14th Dec '06 10:23 PM

And thanks!

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Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Thu, 14th Dec '06 10:44 PM

We should add that we're quite limited in the length of the hints at the bottom, but we'll try to get the gist across.

Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Thu, 25th Jan '07 5:39 PM

Bumping this to mention something we've also discussed: verb tenses. I had a mix of present and past tenses in today's "You Know How It Ends" quiz that required wasting letters finding out if they ended in "ed" or "s." My personal choice would have been past tense, but I don't care as long as there's uniformity.

Love the subject matter, though!

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Sploofloops (Editor)  
Thu, 25th Jan '07 8:33 PM

Hiya Lamizell!

I wrote the puzzle you mentioned and I'm sorry for the confusion about verb tense. The list of ten puzzles included one puzzle about a current release (hence the present tense) while the other nine puzzles were movies that are no longer in theaters. That's why the tense was different.

~~Keep on playin'~~

Kaufman  (Level: 267.9 - Posts: 3941)
Thu, 25th Jan '07 8:48 PM

Yeah. I figured that out right after not counting the letters and eating three moves. D'oh! I also figured out that certain big name movie stars don't even know how to spell their names right

Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Thu, 25th Jan '07 11:43 PM

I understand your reasoning, Sploofette, regarding *Miss Potter.* But if the much-rumored archive ever materializes, that puzzle is going to be even more problematic. The way I look at it, an actor "is portraying" someone while s/he is filming a movie; once the role is completed, the work becomes past tense. Admittedly, movie trailers completely disagree, hence something like "Jim Carrey IS Albert Einstein in *E=MC Crazy*."

Hairs split ... moving on.

Again, I enjoyed the topic.

Allena  (Level: 266.4 - Posts: 1409)
Fri, 26th Jan '07 12:16 AM

Add Elizabeth I or

If you were to write for the NEW YORK times you would go to the stylebook of editors...In other has alreaqdy been invented. Sploofus need not start from scratch.

Suggest: Associated Press, 2000. The best of the newspaper stylebooks (unless you're Canadian), in my opinion. Updated editions come out regularly.

The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Los Angeles Times have also published their own stylebooks. Perhaps one from London should also be considered. Pick it...don't bother to tell the Americans or Canadians etc. which one and let every editor have a copy. It is not good reading but then...who ever read Websters cover to cover?

Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Fri, 26th Jan '07 12:46 AM

Ehem.. Canadian here eh?

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Sploofloops (Editor)  
Fri, 26th Jan '07 12:03 PM

Good point, Lamizell. I'll go in and edit for possible future re-release.

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