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Surreyman  (Level: 274.3 - Posts: 2775)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 3:59 AM


Here's a puzzle sequence that has defied our family, and also that international centre of genius, our local pub!

What letter should replace the question mark in this sequence?

A C E ? F S H

We think it's probably a set of 7 initials (e.g. MTWTFSS for days of the week)rather than mathematical (up two letters, down one etc.), but thereafter it's beaten us.

Any offers?

Kimoira  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 1200)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 5:31 AM

First off it struck me as ACE(angiotensin converting enzyme) and FSH(follicle stimulating hormone)which are medically used abbreviations.I'm not sure about the missing letter. I'll stay on it though!I love a mystery.

Xhoney1  (Level: 76.0 - Posts: 185)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 5:33 AM

I thought the same thing, beat me to it

Surreyman  (Level: 274.3 - Posts: 2775)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 5:42 AM

I don't think it would be that horribly scientific - it's intended for a general readership.

Kimoira  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 1200)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 5:49 AM

A C E ? F S H

there are 2 missing letters one between a c, c e: 1 2
13 letters between f and s : 1 3
15 between s and h ( to the end and start over): 1 5

stretching it here...

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 6:38 AM

You think that's stretching it? I'm not religious in the slightest, but I though it might have been the direct descendents of Adam, until I got to 'F' - but see how inventive I became...

Adam begat
Cain, who begat
Enoch, who begat
?=Methusalah, who begat
(erm.. ignore Lamnech,who begat Noah - which brings us to)
Flood (which even I thought was pretty tenuous)
Ham (both offspring of Noah)

Thus proving once again the maxim: "If you look hard enough, you'll see what you want".
And make a right pig's ear of it.

Surreyman  (Level: 274.3 - Posts: 2775)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 2:09 PM

Hey Larefamiliaris, that was great thinking!
I went back into that stuff to see if it could be manipulated, but sadly not.
Deserved it!

Garrybl  (Level: 293.8 - Posts: 6801)
Sat, 24th Feb '07 11:31 PM

This does not work --though it nearly does

convert letters to numbers and the series is


One has three letters. three has five, five has four, but then you get stcuk on four... oh well


Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 7:20 AM

I have not been able to get this puzzle out of my head since I saw it. I hope the answer doesn't come to me in the middle of services this morning. I'm sure I'll shout it out!

Surreyman  (Level: 274.3 - Posts: 2775)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 9:03 AM

It's still beating me after three days!
We still feel it's a group of seven - e.g. days in week, seas, continents, Deadly Sins, planets/moons, whatever.
I Googled several entries trying for initial comparisons etc. - and up came two other people who have also sent it off into Internetland for help!
Can't just be a misprint - no-one has yet even got to within one letter of being right.
It should be straightforward - it's just the normal 'Mensa' puzzle published in the UK 'Daily Express' (Friday just gone) - usually a bit tough but solvable within the hour.
The answer gets published next Friday.
If we don't get it in the meantime I'll let you all know - no doubt accompanied by screams of mental anguish!

Kimoira  (Level: 214.8 - Posts: 1200)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 9:18 AM

Next Friday is too long of a wait!

Garrybl  (Level: 293.8 - Posts: 6801)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 9:56 AM

another little mystery

My computer was playing up last night. As of now its OK.
But when I look at my last post I appear to have been castrated (well lost two thirds of my logo).
Either that or I'm two thirds of a ghost -- which I seem to remember was the title of a Holly Roth detective story 50 years ago.


Tuzilla  (Level: 146.4 - Posts: 3843)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 10:49 AM

The answer is 42.

Gingerybush  (Level: 170.1 - Posts: 9)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 10:52 AM

Ok, looking at it from a different angle. ACE ? FSH.
What if, one of the proposed letters is to replace 'the question mark ' in the sequence. There is the written question mark and the question mark at the end of the question.

Or the last three letters of replace are ACE followed by 'the question mark' (? as in the sequence) but FSH has thrown me, sorry - just throwing in my tuppenceworth.

Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 10:54 AM

LOL! Tuzilla ...

Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 11:01 AM

Is the question phrased "what LETTER.." or just what should replace the question mark? ... If it doesn't need to be a letter replacing the question mark - it could be a dash ( - ) as in alphabetizing literature???

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 11:07 AM

Ok this is driving me crazy.

The only thing I can figure out it that the letters are:
Mirror Image, not, not..(? would be a mirror image letter), not, not, mirror image.

Ok...that being said I can't figure out the sequence of the letters...maybe someone else can figure out that part.


Surreyman  (Level: 274.3 - Posts: 2775)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 1:34 PM

Oh Gawd!

It's been suggested that it's O.

Then, there's an alternate sequence of straight and curved letters, with 'O' being the only 'curves only' replacement left.

Is that it?

Baggiob  (Level: 143.2 - Posts: 888)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 1:46 PM

Lol, You have it spot on there.

Look at the alphabet, and start at A, all the letters that only have straight lines (in order are A, E, F, H, I, K, L, M, N, T, V, W, X, Y and Z

Ones with straight lines and a curve are, B, G, J, Q, R,

And ones with just a curve are, C, O and S

So for this puzzle it was basically asking for the first 'straight lines' letter then the first 'curved only' letter and then the second of each, third of each etc etc.

I spent a while looking at stuff like number of points etc etc but definetly the letter O is the correct answer.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 1:50 PM

Was this part of the Guinness contest for the football box?

Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 8:38 PM

Whew! I can finally get some sleep. WTG Surreyman - and great explanation Baggibob!

Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Sun, 25th Feb '07 8:39 PM

Sorry - Baggiob - not bob.

Spicyhedgehog  (Level: 96.2 - Posts: 69)
Mon, 26th Feb '07 3:42 AM

A C E ? F S H?

Would the missing letter be W?

Air conditioning electric windows full service history?

just a thought.

Surreyman  (Level: 274.3 - Posts: 2775)
Mon, 26th Feb '07 4:57 AM

It was in last Friday's UK Daily Express, a Mensa test - enabling entry for a draw for a chocolate fountain. Don't think I'll bother!

Well Sploofed all!

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.4 - Posts: 3843)
Mon, 26th Feb '07 7:30 AM

I agree with Alan. One sequence is letters only consisting of straight lines
The second is letter only consisting of curved lines
Leaving the combination of straight and curved lines as

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