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heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 12:49 PM

MODIFYING A QUIZ

I launched a quiz "Reheads in Hollywood" in what seems like eons ago now. Yesterday attached a note in detail section asking the editor who reviewed it to hold until after Community Quiz launch as I knew it was close and the Community Quizzes wipe out the entire front page-my main complaint about them. Thought the release date for them was today. My quiz was returned this am and said to make the named modifications but nothing was named about what I should modify. I relaunched it the same way-very frustrating-Linda

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.5 - Posts: 2770)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:06 PM

I don't understand why you say the Community Quizzes wipe out the whole front page?
They are surely just one section amongst many shown when scrolling?
I'm just interested - do some Sploofus users see different page formats than others?

nickdanger
Nickdanger  (Level: 153.0 - Posts: 62)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:16 PM

The list of Most Recent Quizzes is dominated by the community quizzes when they are released.

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:22 PM

Tank you, Nickdager (sorry if I misspelled this). Community quizzes are released in a batch. Folks like myself who have spent hours creating a quiz are simply wiped out if they were unfortunate to have a quiz go "live" before their release. Many people who play this go no further than the front page-the way it is. Sorry about my anger -Linda

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:34 PM

Surreyman:

Both are referring to the home page http://www.sploofus.com/, which is the page everyone sees before sign-on. It is also the page to which one is directed if you click on the Sploofus logo at the top of the page, or the "Sploofus Home" link. Probably a frequently used link for those who do not like the drop-down menus.

It has the "30 Most Recent Quizzes (per author)". When the CQs are released all at once, the list will consist of mostly just CQs.

A possible solution in the way-out future? Have one line with e.g. "March CQs: Laugh!" with the expanded menu link (denoted by the plus sign in a box) contain the list of CQs that were released.

- Jeanne


Sploofus Editor
Sploofandango (Editor)  
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:34 PM

When your quiz came to the top of the queue, it contained a requested not to launch it until after the the launch of the Community Quizzes. That launch is not scheduled until 3/12. As editors, we only have 3 options when a quiz comes to us.

1. Edit it and launch it
2. Reject it
3. Sit on it

You did not want the editor to launch it, so 1 was out. Sitting on it for 8 days is out of the question as that editor would not be able to edit other quizzes why your is holding to top position in their queue. That left rejecting it, which is what they did.

Why couldn't it be set aside like the CQs? Simply put, we have a "dummy" editor account where all of the CQs are idled. If your quiz was "set aside", it would be somewhere in the middle of the CQs and would end up being launched in the middle of them, which seems like the last thing you would want.

As to CQs clearing the most recent quizzes, we try to launch them early in the morning when most editors are not launching other quiz. Yes, it will move quizzes of the most recent list, but if 3 or 4 other editors are editing, the same thing will happen. Since CQs go in a category unique to themselves, the have no effect whatsoever on how long a quiz stays on the front page in the list of recent quizzes in their category. And that is the spot that ultimately generates most of a quizzes traffic.

Since you have relaunched it, the editor who has it has indicated it will be launched now. I hope this makes sense and is satisfactory. We are all sorry for any misunderstanding and inconvenience.

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:47 PM

Surreyman and Sploofusker:

You are both referring to the page http://www.sploofus.com/triviacategory/ and not http://www.sploofus.com/.

It would be interesting to see which of the two pages generate the most traffic for quiz-taking. But that would probably take some programming. Would be an interesting stat, though.

- Jeanne

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 1:54 PM

Thank you, Sploofusker for letting my quiz go live. I believe there needs to be a definite date that we ALL know when the Community Quizzes will go "live"-think the fact i stated earlier is what makes some folks like myself hostile towards them. I have people I call, "friend", who write them, but many players do not look beyond 30 most recent or "front Page" if you will. Know everyone is trying hard and I thank all for that-Linda

osuzannacollage
Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 3:30 PM


It was posted on 2/27 that the March Community Quizzes are due by 3/11, with a launch date of a day or two later, which means they will be launched on either 3/12 or 3/13. That certainly narrows the launch date down.

When I first go to Sploofus, I land on the Home Page with the latest quizzes listed. But after I take a quiz, I press the "more quizzes" button and I end up on the main Trivia Quiz page, where the quizzes are listed by category. Surely I'm not alone in doing it that way. All of the Community Quizzes are listed in their separate category there. I scroll down to the topics I'm most interested in, and take the quizzes in those categories.

What I'm trying to say is that the only time the Community Quizzes could possibly prevent me from taking other quizzes is when I first log in. After that, I'm on the main quiz page.

Susan



heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 5th Mar '07 5:16 PM

I did not mean to insinuate that Community Quizzes going live prevent other quiz taking but they do wipe all of the existing top 30. I go to other categories which interest me but when I am busy as many people are my main focus is checking out 30 most recent and 25 most popular. This is a site where all cannot be pleased ALL of the time. Have expressed my displeasure with this aspect before and will not "beat a dead horse"-things will continue whether I like them or not and most likely I will too-thanks-Linda

surreyman
Surreyman  (Level: 260.5 - Posts: 2770)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 3:56 AM

Apologies for my delay in replying.

I still do not understand the problem.

The 'most recent 30' quizzes could presumably easily disappear within an hour or two anyway - I wouldn't think it would take a few editors much longer to pass 30 new quizzes? Could not an author very easily have a quiz launched and off the '30' list before he/she even comes back into Sploofus next day to seek it?

Likewise, when the CQs suddenly appear - it could only take that same hour or two for 30 new 'normal' quizzes to replace them?

We seem to be talking of a 'window' of an hour or two each month of a CQ-dominated 'recent 30'?

I therefore just don't think CQs merit that objection.

And that's why, also, I never use the 'recent 30' quiz list - it's only a momentary view of the last few hours-worth of quizzes launched. Many good quizzes would be missed without using the 'category' lists!

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 11:00 AM

So wait a minute, is this the same as saying that editors are not allowed to launch a combined total of 30 quizzes in one day. And what happens when more than 30 different people write a quiz, especially when it is not a cq.

nickdanger
Nickdanger  (Level: 153.0 - Posts: 62)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 1:12 PM

I agree that there are better ways to make sure I don't miss a quiz, but when I have just a couple of minutes (i.e. not enough time to browse the categories), I just pick a quiz from the 30 most recent quizzes. Heidi just wants to maximize the number of people who see her quiz on the 30 most recent quizzes list because there are probably other people like me (welll.... maybe not too many people.... but at least a couple.... errr.... maybe even one.... uh.... nevermind).

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.3 - Posts: 1390)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 1:30 PM

Just my opinion but…Editors can send a quiz back and you can decide when to relaunch just by adding a note to the description.

CQ quizzes are just one more way of putting new quizzes into the system.

The quizzes in the MOST popular list...get the most plays...by far. Upping the length a few month ago was a wise improvement by Justin. No other list matters when it comes to getting lots of plays. Hence, the best idea is to write quizzes that people like to take. I wish I had Swiper's or Geniuswaitress's intuition and expertise.

Most Newby's do not write quizzes, do not take quizzes and need lots of incentives to get to learn the site. Whenever you get a note...nice or not...it is good a good opportunity to encourage the person to take more quizzes. As you travel around the blogs for trivia you see far too many sites that have no personality, no interaction, no spontaneity. CQ's, BBS and the growth of this site make it the best, once someone decides to try it all.


soldotna
Soldotna  (Level: 27.7 - Posts: 145)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 1:35 PM

Very well said and true from my own experiences. Susan

bravegator
Bravegator  (Level: 152.0 - Posts: 428)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 1:55 PM

I, for one, enjoy the community quizes. When i suffered my recent case of Sploofus burnout I only launched the community quizes. I am not sure there is much difference with the launch of those quizes (usually aound 30) and a day when someone gets inventive and launched a bunch in one day, or when the editors get ambitious and go through a bunch of quizes. VERY Rarely does a quiz last on the first page more than a day. I have definetly found that the BEST way to get hits and more points is to get on the most popular list... I think we all need to remember this site is for FUN and other than to brag about a good wager or a popular quiz, the points we have are actually worthless

Just my 2 cents!

Chelle

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 2:21 PM

Swore i would not add my opinion again-but... It is 100% true that the most activity generates in 25 most popular. I believe any cursory check will show that the majority of these (with exceptions) come from movies, music, and TV. That is why I write them, although I do love movies. If the goal of this site is to aim at the "intellectual" whoever that might be (not me, certainly), some other incentive needs to be offered to attract that faction. I have been both wrong and unpopular many times in my life but have observed very few Community Quizzes making that 25 list-not that there is a thing wrong with that, but currently it seems to be the goal-hate me if you will and am sorry for any offense-thanks-Linda

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Tue, 6th Mar '07 7:55 PM

I think the point of the COmmunity quizzes is not to try for the Top 25 (how does one really "try" for that anyway? aren't you just writing the best quizzes you can on subjects that interest you?). Anyway, the point of the CQ's is to offer another way for folks to get involved with a communal spirit. Either by writing one or taking them...it helps us establsih a connection to other people in this impersonal cyber-world.

They are only one small part of what Sploofus is about. I suppose you could complain that when you log in you are directed to a certain page, rather than another. I personally always log in from my email - that takes me straight to the TQOTD. After answering I click on the link to the WP. Then I check out the BBS. Many days I never even get to the quiz pages! But no one is advocating doing away with the TQOTD or WP's in order to get more notice for their quizzes. SO why worry about the CQ's getting in the way?

It's all just part of the wonderful whole-world of Sploofus Island!

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 6:15 AM

According to the editor in this post th CQ were sypposed to launch EARY this am. So much for a definite date that can be worked around. linda

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 6:46 AM

It says "try to launch" and 6:15 is VERY early for some. If I didn't have to work, I wouldn't even be up now! Remember the editors have lives too. Maybe they are trying to get their kids ready for school first or a host of other more important things. Sheesh - give them a break.

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 10:40 AM

I am not blaming anyone-just that I HATE being knocked off the front page when they go-think that is a reasable dislike-do not believe CQ quizzes and their launching have the right to control the site any more than I can be blamed for resenting them-linda

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 11:08 AM

And what about when you launch a quiz you have written and you knock someone elses quiz over. It happens. And until such times that a constructive alternative to what happens now comes up it appears fruitless to moan about something.

I do know why you are saying it though.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofandango (Editor)  
Mon, 12th Mar '07 11:34 AM

The CQs will launch today. Some of us have jobs and other responsibilities. 10 will be launched this morning, the others later.

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 12:00 PM

I am truly out of this controversy-will judge my own timing-thanks-linda (I make enemies because i speak my mind.) Every quiz activation bumps another but not in mass. Really, most of the time I am a nice person-again-thanks-linda

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 12:25 PM

Linda: I know exactly the point you are getting at. Oh and I don't think your making enemies just because you speak your mind


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