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Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 6:54 PM


Mr.Sploof,I want to play but it is getting to the point where it is to frustrating because of the expired rounds problem.I am sitting in 1st for the month but should have many more points and entries.I will try to play but if it keeps doing it,I may find something else to do.I really love this site Justin,so heres hoping you at least let us know what is happening.......Sincerely,Wayne

Mitchy  (Level: 136.0 - Posts: 964)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 7:02 PM

Me too. I hate when this happens.... Also how come the quizzes are coming out so slow? I had one sent back to correct, and was told it would be out as soon as I sent it back. That was hours ago and it has 200 in front of it.....Very Frustrating......

Oldcougar  (Level: 230.2 - Posts: 1937)
Mon, 12th Mar '07 9:36 PM

These expired WR's & WM's are really hard us old folks with arthritic hands. I just can't do 10 tries on each round. I love this site too, but I may to give it a rest til it's fixed. The problems probably don't rest with Justin but the new server. In my experience, computer rollovers are always turn out to be less than was promised & require a lot of work to correct.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Mon, 12th Mar '07 9:42 PM


Your quiz will get done once the editor who owns it logs on to edit. For all you know, it's being edited by someone who's fast asleep somewhere in the world right now. Or who has a real-life crisis. But regardless, those 200 quizzes aren't really standing between your quiz and its edit.

Mindmonkey  (Level: 280.7 - Posts: 295)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 12:37 AM

It isn't just the word rounds--although that happened to me again last night. Also, last night I tried to take two quizes in a row. In the middle of both I got a message saying that I'd taken the quiz before and it kicked me out. So, I left the site. If it won't let me play, what is the alternative?

I started a thread about this problem last week and have commented on it in other threads. Nobody answers. Is this problem being worked on? Normally, I've got lots of patience but the silence from Sploofus is deafening. Is anybody home?

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3640)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 12:53 AM

This islander is starting to stand on the beach and gaze across the waves to the mainland.

Mitchy  (Level: 136.0 - Posts: 964)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 2:56 AM

Thank you Sploofernatural for clarifying that for me.

Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 8:17 AM

If we are frustrated, can you imagine how Justin feels?

Sometimes taking a few days off is a good thing. When you come back, your questions and stuff will still be there.

I hate to come across as some kind of polyanna ostrich and I'm afraid I do sometimes. I get frustrated too and use it as an opportunity to put things in perspective. Please do not take this the wrong way, but in the grand scheme of things, these little problems mean nothing in comparison to the other things happening in our lives.

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 9:30 AM

Fair point, but it's hard to vent your spleen when no-one is listening - for whatever (legitimate or otherwise) reason.
I propose we use this thread not to berate Monsignor Sploof, but merely to let off steam a little.
I can barely see my monitor for flecks of bile - and my teeth are beginning to start small fires what with the grinding and gnashing...
Still, it's just a game right?

Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 9:51 AM

I am sorry if I came across as critical of people who voice concern. That was not my intention. I was just trying in my own inept way to keep spirits up.

Those of us that are relatively new are very much aware of and grateful for the work done by the founding members of this site. You are to be admired for what you have done as well as for the patience you have shown.

Please forgive what was a well intentioned post. I would not dream of putting anyone down for voicing their honest concern. I just have a way of saying the right thing the wrong way - LOL.

You know what they say about the road to Hell being paved with good intentions. I think I might qualify as the clueless flag man on that project.

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 10:30 AM

"This is not actually true.The road to Hell is paved with frozen door-to-door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger Demons go ice skating down it."

- "Good Omens",
Terry Pratchett

Tue, 13th Mar '07 4:01 PM

Oh my, I wish I could be everywhere at once. Doing all I can to keep things running as smoothly as possible is the best that I can do. Unfortunately it is not possible for me to keep up with the threads and posts here in the forums.

Please help me to get the expired rounds problem fixed.

It was once said that expired rounds only occur during the last 5-10 minutes of a WordRound or WordMatch. Is this true?

Any additional clues, patterns, or other information that anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated, as I have been unable to reproduce this error even after playing several dozen rounds in the past hour.

We'll stay on this until it is fixed!

Thank you,

Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 4:08 PM

Justin,it has been random at best.Sometimes it happens at the beginning of a round,sometimes in the middle and sometimes at the end.It is happening to almost all of us though.Thank you for investigating and I'm sure you will find the problem soon...Wayne

Zeedee  (Level: 235.6 - Posts: 1088)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 4:19 PM

I have gotten the "expired round" message as early as five minutes after the hour. But usually, if I go back one screen, and submit the answer again, the answer is accepted and I don't get the "expired" message a second time. Of course, this adds several seconds to my time (MANY seconds because I have a slow connection and the screen has to reload when I back up), but at least I've been able to finish.

Vettage  (Level: 41.0 - Posts: 241)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 4:20 PM

It does seem to happen most during the latter part of the hour, and for some inane reason, happen most during a round or match that 'felt' like it was the quickest one of my attempts that hour.

Still not ready to build a raft yet. I'm keeping the faith it will be resolved, although I did ponder drawing a face on a soccer ball. When I have what 'felt' like a fast round disappear,...Wilson is getting abused.

Kaufman  (Level: 270.3 - Posts: 3942)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 4:21 PM

Right. And during those bubbles in which it happens, the Shout often fails to update, or even regresses, along with our list of results for the current hour. It may have something to do with the distributed servers not syncing up, but I don't know.

Geophile  (Level: 168.5 - Posts: 1553)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 4:25 PM

I think Aslan is absolutely right...take a breather, relax for a few days. Sometimes, I think, we are a little intense on the island...and that's okay. I suspect we are rather intense people. I find when I take a break, I come back and do much better than what I was doing before. Ah...when does that next word puzzle start....???

Mitchy  (Level: 136.0 - Posts: 964)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 5:04 PM

Hi Justin....Wow! great to see your post. Ok, see if this info will help...... I seem to experience the 0% and the other error msgs. when I, F-11 or enlarge my Text Size. I know it seems weird but it is true, I have spoke with others and Now they see it too. maybe this might help a little.... Glad you are back. Thanx, Mitchy

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 5:17 PM

Dunno why, but it's only happened to me very rarely, even when the others are saying it's happening to them repeatedly. I've had a round go to a white screen and register 0% a few times, 3 times in a row a few days ago but not since, and I can't remember seeing the "expired" message others are getting.


Good Luck!

Mindmonkey  (Level: 280.7 - Posts: 295)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 5:53 PM

Justin, It's good to hear from you. The aborted quizes seem entirely random to me. I have no idea of any possible link or cause.

I'm glad you replied. Personally, I'd rather have a message that said "I don't have a clue what's going on." than silence. We can all relate to not knowing. Of course, if you do have a solution, I (and, I suppose, we) would like to hear it too. Running something like this can get crazy, but don't avoid us. We're all on your side. We just need to know what's happening.

Sargon  (Level: 112.9 - Posts: 1256)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 6:04 PM

I ran into a problem at about 5:56p.m. I was trying to do a word match but it kept showing me that it was expired. Each time it show a blank percentage. To terminate each round I hit the enter key.

On my final try I clicked on the submit button and it accepted my round.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3640)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 7:32 PM

I had just answered question 8 on a grease quiz, hit submit, and it threw me out to my sploofus space. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (screaming inside my head, of course).

Gypsylady  (Level: 149.5 - Posts: 6108)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 7:49 PM

Thanks, Justin! We know you're busy, but we really like to hear from you when you get a chance. Sometimes we feel like we've lost our leader!

I have gotten several expired wordrounds and some on wordmatches. This morning on wordrounds I got (2) expired in a row, then kept playing and never got anymore on that round. They do just seem to happen at random for me.

On the quizzes and the 0%, it is also random, and when it happens, the usual list of questions and correct answers does not appear, and your name doesn't appear on the list sometimes, and at other times it appears with the 0% score.

Hope this helps, and good luck!!!

I have Mozilla version Firefox
Windows XP


Charcoal  (Level: 183.9 - Posts: 52)
Tue, 13th Mar '07 8:06 PM

For me they seem far more random and sporadic throughout the day only having expired notice come up a few times a day; but over the last couple weeks they have been very consistent on my computer during the 0300 hour of Sploofus, they usually start around 0310 and happen until around 0330. If I play the hour immediately when it starts or at the end I don't see it but if I am playing between the times mentioned I see it every night. It is not the F11 full screen for me because I always play with F11 on. I am using dial up and Mozilla. Sherry

Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Wed, 14th Mar '07 8:59 AM

Hate to say it (for fear of a mob tomatoe attack ) but, I've never had an expired round message unless the round had actually expired.

IE 6.0

Wed, 14th Mar '07 10:42 AM


I believe that your 0310 to 0330 clue may have solved the problem. That is about the time that one of the automated scripts runs on the master application server, which performs a TON of writes to the primary database server. I believe that the expired rounds message occurs when a certain database table is "locked" for writing by another server.

Very confident the cause has been identified. Now I will begin work on coding the solution!

Thank you so much, all, for your input - and I will make a true effort to poke my head in the Salty Dog much more often. You've got my word.


Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Wed, 14th Mar '07 1:47 PM

Great team effort, everyone. Nice.

Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Tue, 20th Mar '07 2:01 AM

Still happening

Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Tue, 20th Mar '07 2:02 AM

Tis still happening....lots

Mitchy  (Level: 136.0 - Posts: 964)
Tue, 20th Mar '07 3:27 AM

I just lost 5 tries behind the stinkin expired rounds.

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Tue, 20th Mar '07 11:34 AM

3 in a row for me...
...and I just renewed my Gold Membership - Am I being tested?

Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Tue, 10th Apr '07 2:22 AM

Justin,went through a 12 minute, 21 attempt period where I got expired round messages with the 125error codes.When I hit submit after completing a round,the expired page comes up.Then,when I try to go back to the WR/WM page,it takes me back to a results page that was 5-15 minutes earlier in time,then I hit refresh again and it(the WR/WM results page)goes back to present time and my personal results are showing blank for that attempt.I have noticed that it does happen for the most part during the 10 minutes prior and after each hour.Though it does happen sporatically through the hour.Hope this helps just a little more,cause it has been a few weeks now since you said you may have found the problem.

Tue, 10th Apr '07 5:00 PM

...hobbling along reaching for 4/15...

Swiper  (Level: 154.8 - Posts: 875)
Tue, 10th Apr '07 7:17 PM

7:14 pm 7 out of 10 rounds expired. Always when I'm pretty sure I got 100% on that round. If I get less, it shows up, no problem.

Jorboo  (Level: 39.1 - Posts: 141)
Wed, 11th Apr '07 1:09 AM

I love Sploofus and sometimes I get annoyed, but in the scheme of things it is a game. So I am going to be Pollyanna and thank Justin for his hard work. Sploofus has kept be sane due to the tragedies that have befallen me in the last two months. So smile and love your family and friends and tell them you love them. Sweet dreams, all. Jorboo {Genny}

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