You are not signed in (Login or Join Free)   |   Help
Sploofus Trivia
Trivia GamesCommunityLeaderboardsTournaments
MySploofus
You are here:  Home  >>  Chat Forums  >>  The Salty Dog  >>  View Chat Message

View Chat Message



Pages:  1    


ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:12 PM

DISCRIMINATION ALERT!!! DISCRIMINATION ALERT!!!

I am saddened and dissapointed by Sploofus ending the genuine trivia topic of Religion. I am a protestant and studying to become a full time minister. It is the responsibility of a responsible person in the world today to understand other cultures and beliefs. I know a few women who would probably not like being "forced" to answer questions about sports. The inclusion of other religions under the religion column does not bother me in the least. I think it is important for any person to see the world in a "we" point of view instead of an "us and them" stance. Also I am getting CHEATED out of the little stars under my name, when you click on it, that I earned from legitimate trivia knowledge. Maybe the idea of being able to opt out of a subject or even more than one, is a good idea. There is a topic or two I do not want to be "forced" to take. BOOOOOO Mr. Sploofus! BOOOOOO!!! What is next? Are you going to kick all the movie questions, that include Jews, or all the quizzes about meat because vegitarians don't like it, off the site too?

puppet138
Puppet138  (Level: 169.6 - Posts: 65)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:20 PM

I think discrimination is a little harsh here, but I can see your point and agree that it shouldn't have been removed, but the option to be exempt by the user.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:26 PM

Was the category removed on RELIGION or the BIBLE? I didn't have that edition so I don't know for sure. I believe if it was Bible trivia (as it's called in the hotwire message), then keeping that category and making everyone answer those questions might be construed as discrimination against other religions. And how would you be learning about other religions if it was only Bible questions?
I think a Religion category would be okay to keep. But they are really 2 different things.

puppet138
Puppet138  (Level: 169.6 - Posts: 65)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:29 PM

It was actually just the Bible

puppet138
Puppet138  (Level: 169.6 - Posts: 65)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:31 PM

It was actually just the Bible

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:32 PM

Then I think everyone should make sure they refer to it as such. I've seen the BIBLE category referred to as RELIGION a couple of times in the posts and their really 2 different things.

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:33 PM

Well what I meant was that more than just bible trivia should have been added. I participated in all categories and just opted out of 1 subject. I think you should be able to opt out of a subject or two instead of eliminating an entire genre. I have no problem fielding questions that include other religions, in fact I welcome the idea.

skillet66
Skillet66  (Level: 83.5 - Posts: 210)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:35 PM

Correct me if i am wrong,the bible edition on your TQOTD is being done away with,but the religion category of the quizzes will remain.Right??

puppet138
Puppet138  (Level: 169.6 - Posts: 65)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:36 PM

I agree. I don't like the idea that I am being forced to do questions that I know absolutely nothing about. I know its more like a trivial pursuit style now, which is fine, but I liked the old way that I could base my daily questions on what we know. It said in the hotwire that now its a level playing field. I feel it always was as we all could eliminate certain topics.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:38 PM

There is not and never was a Religion category. People were referring to the Bible category as Religion.

puppet138
Puppet138  (Level: 169.6 - Posts: 65)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:41 PM

Im confused. I know there wasn't a Religion section in the QOTD, but isn't there one on the main Trivia page?

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:45 PM

Puppet, according to the hotwire message, people were exploiting some of the editions if there were only a limited number of categories in the edition (like in Biblae and Hollywood). The message mentions a progression of questions, so the questions probably came up in a specific order. If someone had multiple accounts, they could easily remember the answers they got in one account and get them right soon after in the other account. I think that's why everyone is getting the same categories now and the questions will be given randomly. I think the "leveling the playing field" wasn't referring to anyone's knowledge but making sure that dishonest folks could not take advantage of the system.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:46 PM

Yes there is a Religion quiz category but not a TQOTD Religion category.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:49 PM

The complaints people are having are in reference to the Bible edition being removed from the TQOTD. Everyone will have the same edition now. The Religon QUIZ category is staying as far as I know.

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:52 PM

Like I said, blatant discriminstion against people of faith. Leveling the playing field... what a hypocrite!

violetblue
Violetblue  (Level: 112.2 - Posts: 850)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:52 PM

Oy.

According to Sploofus, there was an issue with the old server necessitating the introduction of a slightly different system. The new system doesn't seem to allow "category exemption." Because of that, it is most fair to *all* users here to discontinue the Bible Trivia category since it's a decidedly Christian topic. Not all Sploofusers are Christian.

Perhaps we shall have the creation of a new World Religions category (as mentioned in a separate thread) that will then offer questions that would appeal to more than just Christian Sploofusers. Maybe we won't. I don't know.

According to Ross on Friends, "Nobody likes change" but in the interest of creating a bigger and better Sploofus let's not cry "discrimination"! Many users could rightly claim discrimination if they were required to have Bible Trivia as part of their QOTD.



skillet66
Skillet66  (Level: 83.5 - Posts: 210)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:58 PM

I think u are right,krav.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 5:58 PM

You're right Violet, it wasn't a level playing field. If you were a Bible expert and you had the Bible edition only you would probably do great. But what if you were an average guy not into the Bible or Movies etc... Then I believe that the Bible or Movie folks would definitely have an advantage over you.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.2 - Posts: 3779)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 6:05 PM

First of all "QUACK".

Now, instead of burning buildings and inciting mayhem, let's be constructive/proactive.

Let's ask the almighty Sploofus to do a poll on QOD subjects and she how the general populace feels, which they love, like, dislike and despise. Then, mayhaps the subjects with good positive ratings can go forth, while any despised by the masses subjects can fall by the wayside. (wiggles nose and hops back into the sanctity of his burrow).

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 6:07 PM

It's just like dinner at my house used to be when I was younger (there were 5 kids). Everyone gets the same thing to eat. One day you get something you like and the next day you get something you don't like as much. But you ate it anyway because it was way too much work for mom to prepare 5 different meals.

Remember that Sploofus is a 1-man show. This will ceratinly be easier on Mr. Sploofus and I'm sure that may have affected his decision as well.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 6:08 PM

I agree with you my rabbit friend. Let the majority decide! That seems fair.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 6:09 PM

Oops - I forgot my QUACK!

sploofus
Justin  
Wed, 19th Oct '05 6:51 PM

Indeed, there has NEVER been a "Religion" Trivia Question of the Day category or edition. There WAS, however, a "Bible Edition".

Since the category exemption feature has been disabled to patch several known exploits, every Sploofuser now gets their TQOTD randomly selected from the exact same categories.

As a Christian myself and avid reader of the Bible, I can assure you that this decision was very difficult and that there is no "discrimination" going on here. It is simply unfair to force a global audience of drastically different faiths (or those with no faith at all) to receive trivia questions in their inbox that are exclusive to only one faith.

In the mean time, please feel free to author and/or take the many quality Bible trivia quizzes hosted here at Sploofus.com. They are completely independant of the TQOTD. If Sploofus were discriminating it would have also removed all quizzes associated with Christianity or religion. I do not discriminate.

Religion can be a very emotional, complex and difficult issue. It is not a category that should be introduced to every player here at Sploofus. My goal is to keep the atmosphere light, educational, and most of all: FUN!

Thank you for your understanding,
Sploofus

aquamar
Aquamar  (Level: 179.0 - Posts: 910)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 6:59 PM

I'm with you on this one Steve. Let the majority decide. I do enjoy Bible trivia.

sploofus
Justin  
Wed, 19th Oct '05 7:09 PM

Sounds like a fair plan for Sploofus Land.

Let the people decide!

Later this evening I will open up a new series of polls to let THE SPLOOFUSERS decide which categories stay, and which categories go. I will post a new thread here on the chat forum when the polls are ready.

englishrose49
Englishrose49  (Level: 22.0 - Posts: 38)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 7:14 PM

Just another thaught here , If there will be no more bible questions because people have different religions then shouldn`t TV questions and Sport go also because we don`t all live in the USA and have different TV and Sports? We need to have a good ponder about it i think xx

sploofus
Justin  
Wed, 19th Oct '05 7:31 PM

I agree - but am I correct in assuming that the majority rule on the forthcoming polls should set the standard for what categories should be kept and which should be removed?

englishrose49
Englishrose49  (Level: 22.0 - Posts: 38)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 7:41 PM

Yes i do realise that we from outside the USA are the minority and the majority will rule.
we are already at a disadvantage as there are many quizzes we just can`t take , thats why it was nice to be able to have a choice with QOTD and showdown questions.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 7:51 PM

I agree with Sploofus. My logic being that the Bible...may be factual to Christians, to those that follow the Koran or those that are Jewish, it is not "fact" to them.

On the other hand, who won the Superbowl last year, or Tom Hanks movies is factual and not subject to interpretation.

Just my two cents.

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.4 - Posts: 296)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 8:05 PM

Ronkon, I think you went over the top on this one, but I do see your point. For the record, I'm a "devout agnostic" who was raised atheist. Having said that, I would have no problem with a "World Religions and Philosophies" category as long as it's inclusive of the various religions and philosophies, including agnosticism and atheism, which are present in the world. Heck, I'd even vote for it.

As for category exemption...Part of the fun of Sploofus is getting exposed to knowledge you never would have sought out. I don't like the idea of category exemption. I'd have a lot more Sploofus points if I could have only vocabulary and physical science questions, for instance, but part of the game is answering questions on a wide array of subjects.

If the majority votes for some kind of religion category, or even a strictly Christian category, that's fine with me and even if category exemption is reinstated, I won't exempt myself, despite the fact that the chances of my getting Bible trivia question right, beyond "Fill in the blank: Adam and ____", are about nil. But maybe I'll learn something.

But...PLEASE. Let's not cry (for that matter, shout in ALL CAPS) discrimination here. That really is over the top, and is not at all helpful.

Will

mcpop
Mcpop  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 44)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 8:12 PM

We could easily have questions about sports and movies that are not American in origin as well as religion questions that are not Christianity-based.

I would prefer to see a poll asking about maintaining a "Religions" category instead of "The Bible." I think that would be a better way to keep it fair for everyone.

BTW: I am a Christian and would not mind questions about other religions. If I get them wrong, then I will have learned something new to start my day. That is what trivia is all about anyway, right?

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.4 - Posts: 296)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 8:15 PM

Agreed completely...The poll should be updated to ask about a new category, maybe "Religion and Philosophy," rather than just "The Bible."

Will

action23
Action23  (Level: 113.6 - Posts: 180)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 8:55 PM

holy smoke..............QUACK QUACK

sploofus
Justin  
Wed, 19th Oct '05 9:11 PM

ATTN: Willcrowder

You make a good point and your suggested category is now being addressed in the Polls

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.4 - Posts: 296)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 11:20 PM

Thanks, Sploof! For the record, I voted for this category (I'm gonna suck at it for sure)...Also for the record, Mcpop and others deserve credit for coming up with the category. I was just agreeing.

Will

philkon
Philkon  (Level: 269.3 - Posts: 474)
Wed, 19th Oct '05 11:39 PM

Amen to that.

ronkon
Ronkon  (Level: 94.7 - Posts: 99)
Thu, 20th Oct '05 1:32 AM

Sorry about the flame, but discrimination against Christians(or anybody else for that matter)is a subject that I feel deeply for.

action23
Action23  (Level: 113.6 - Posts: 180)
Thu, 20th Oct '05 2:41 AM

Ron (et al).........there are many of us here who likewise carry the same passion for our respective faith as you, christiandom or other.

From the various explanations provided.....I would submit to you that no personal attack or discrimination of any sort was being attempted by the site administration.

The deep passion expressed by you (and others) is very much appreciated, from this tiny peep hole in the world (and something that the world could possibly use a little more of).

I personally admire the fortitude displayed on such a passionate, yet sometimes, (and unfortunately) controversial topic.

Luke 8:16

action23


mamacurlyhead
Mamacurlyhead  (Level: 77.9 - Posts: 66)
Thu, 20th Oct '05 4:23 PM

Sorry folks but if I am forced to GUESS and I mean GUESS at questions that I know absolutely NOTHING about the subject - aka sports, TV, movies. I signed up for Sploofus because I could CHOOSE what categories I wanted my brain tested on. I have lost my passion for even looking at my question of the day in the morning. It use to be the first thing I did with my cup of coffee.

mamacurlyhead
Mamacurlyhead  (Level: 77.9 - Posts: 66)
Thu, 20th Oct '05 9:02 PM

I think the big issue for everyone is about choice. It seems that everyone would like to opt out of some of the categories. Not everyone the same ones, but everyone seems to have their favorites and definately ones that they have no desire to participate in. I view the Bible category as trivia over a specific book - a very important book to a lot of people. The questions have even pushed me to study portions more because I got a question - or several questions in a row - incorrect. And in today's world, yes, taking the Bible away from Christian people can be considered discriminatory especially when you want to substitute "Religion and Philosphy". There is a difference. It's a freedom. That is why you had people opt in for Bible and others to opt out of Bible.

eksimba
Eksimba  (Level: 29.0 - Posts: 155)
Thu, 20th Oct '05 11:18 PM

Wow. Beverly. You're really taking this hard. Rest assured, though, that nobody from sploofus is going to come take your Bible away from you.

mamacurlyhead
Mamacurlyhead  (Level: 77.9 - Posts: 66)
Fri, 21st Oct '05 8:59 AM

And Sploofus won't get my renewal. It's about choice. And this is just another example of how exactly "MY BIBLE" does get taken away. I am sorry for the glitch in the system that makes it difficult for us to opt out of certain categories. Read the other chats - there are other people who are upset because they signed on to do TV and Movie trivia ONLY and some for Sports ONLY. It is about the choice and why we picked this site. Duh


Pages:  1    



Copyright © 2003-2016 Sploofus Holdings LLC.  All rights reserved.
Legal Notice & Privacy Statement  |  Link to Sploofus