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Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 21st May '07 9:45 AM


I just posted to support for big WP error - you might want to wait to take it for a bit til fixed. (Fantastic Books)

Brianc1  (Level: 30.7 - Posts: 3)
Mon, 21st May '07 10:00 AM

Thanks. I was just getting ready to do it. However, I think I'll do as you suggest and wait. Thanks again.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 21st May '07 10:09 AM

I've been told this is not an error - and I don't know what I could or could not say about it - so I've made an additional suggestion - maybe the editor will see this and respond appropriately - but hey - I learned something new!

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 21st May '07 3:08 PM

I wouldn't wait - I don't think it's going to change - maybe some of you are more well versed and will get it -- sorry for the alarm - fulfilled my "Learn something new every day" mantra.

Bigbird  (Level: 236.1 - Posts: 3300)
Mon, 21st May '07 3:39 PM

I think I know what you mean, cause I got it, and wasted a lot of moves. But it is definitely NOT an error.


Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Mon, 21st May '07 9:10 PM

Now that the puzzle is over, can I ask what the perceived mistake was? Inquiring minds want to know.

Tuzilla  (Level: 130.7 - Posts: 3769)
Mon, 21st May '07 9:35 PM

Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone by J.K. Rowling, which is the original title as released in the UK vs. Sorcerers Stone, which is the U.S. title.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 21st May '07 10:26 PM

Yes. My only point in my support ticket after finding that out was that the clue might have had UK title. I'm extremely well read, 4-5 novels a month - and am very familiar with all the Harry Potter books, but being in Texas USA, that is not something I knew - I know some did - but I would guess the vast majority did not.

I had already had two puzzles, and was sitting there thinking I know this is not a multi title book quiz (like the movies a few weeks ago).

I appreciate everything the editors do. I've spent all day just about redoing a website that has over 100 pages and my eyes are crossing - so coming up with and writing these puzzles I know takes a ton of work.

I just know that most of the time on the WP's there will be a clue part that says watch spelling, and several others. That particular puzzle would have been an example of when that would have been good and made it fair for all parts of the world.

That's just my input - it blew my puzzle and that was very frustating since I was flying - but I can guarantee you - I will never forget the "other title"!

I'm now inspired to reread some C.S. Lewis books after doing the WP.

I would be interested in knowing if I'm the only one in America that didn't know there was two titles - living in a rural county of 3,000 - maybe I am LOL!

Pocahontas1951  (Level: 55.4 - Posts: 172)
Mon, 21st May '07 10:29 PM

I also got this puzzle, it got me good! But hey I learned something!


Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Mon, 21st May '07 11:07 PM

I didn't know that savory tidbit, and would have bombed had I got it in my quiz.

Good trivia though....

Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Tue, 22nd May '07 2:18 AM

I DID know that the book was released under a different title in the UK, so this did not throw me at all, except to wonder why the puzzle author chose the UK title. But since JK Rowland is British, it makes sense to use the actual title she chose and not the one that American editors made her use for the US release!

This is an excellent bit of trivia!

Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Tue, 22nd May '07 2:37 AM

It caused a little bit of stir when the book was first released since the publishing house changed the name because no one thought U.S. kids would read a book with "Philosopher" in the title. In addition to giving the vocal anti-witchcraft parents more fuel for their book burnings, many protested -- rightfully so -- that the change aimed at the lowest common denominator instead of trusting the quality of the product. That book could have been named *Harry Potter and the Awesome Power of Homework* and it would have still been a hit.

Zoinkin  (Level: 38.2 - Posts: 33)
Tue, 22nd May '07 3:38 AM

...which explains why Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine was turned into a major motion picture film franchise with an invisible boy dragonfly toy free in McDonald's happy meals, a Professor Bullfinch's Bucket o' Antigravity Paint carton design at KFC, and an Irene Miller baseball action set available in the toy aisle of every major retailer.

Wait, that never happened? That sucks, that was the series I read as a kid that was the bee's knees then. Guess we just didn't make an over-hyped fantasy world phenomena back then like we do now.

And it was uphill in the snow *both ways*, I swear.

Geniuswaitress  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 381)
Tue, 22nd May '07 7:39 AM

Other changes were made in the Harry Potter books as well. They were Americanized for American audiences, something which vexes me, as I grew up reading British books like Roald Dahl, Kenneth Graham, etc. and I was never confused by the different terminology --I learned something and thought they were charming. The New York Times had a great article about it, but I can't find it. Here's a link to some of the lexical differences:

Tuzilla  (Level: 130.7 - Posts: 3769)
Tue, 22nd May '07 7:54 AM

Bless those Dolly Dogood censor who protect us from accidental learning and cross cultural understanding. And bless them twice for taking all those words ans scenes out of movies that are shown on TV that the actors and directors were stupid enough to put into them. If we Americans are to protect ourselves from becoming Oceania in 1984 by George Orwell (a known foreigner), then these are the people to do it for us.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Tue, 22nd May '07 7:57 AM

I'm with you GW! I go out of my way (and pay ruinous postage) to get my favorite British authors in the original. The local dialect and slang is half the reason I buy some of them (Rankin's Inspector Rebus mysteries springs to mind); it's like accents in a movie - it adds to the sense of being there.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofloops (Editor)  
Tue, 22nd May '07 8:48 AM

Suzer22 wrote: But since JK Rowland is British, it makes sense to use the actual title she chose and not the one that American editors made her use for the US release!

This is true.

I did not mean to trick anyone. I simply decided to use the original title.

Don't forget to count the puzzle spaces before typing your guess!

Garrybl  (Level: 275.9 - Posts: 6605)
Tue, 22nd May '07 9:36 AM

Re the UK/US slant.
Though I'm based in the US I was brought up in the UK so last nights childrens games was impossible for me. I'd never heard of most of them. NASCAR gives me the same problem.
But that's fine; just dont begrudge us limeys our occasional chance to get a geographical edge.


Kaufman  (Level: 253.8 - Posts: 3936)
Tue, 22nd May '07 10:06 AM

So Barry,

Am I to infer from your result on "My Mother Told Me" that British mothers have more in common with their American counterparts than British children do?

Just curious.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Tue, 22nd May '07 11:03 AM

Don't feel bad on NASCAR - Kind of like Al Bundy - I'll always fail those that would most definitely be "by choice"!

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Tue, 22nd May '07 1:10 PM

Same way I would fail, say, cross-stitch. Different strokes. Variety makes the rainbow.

So when's our next NASCAR quiz? Huh, editors? The fastest-growing sport in America gets very short shrift around here if you ask me!

But nobody did.

Tuzilla  (Level: 130.7 - Posts: 3769)
Tue, 22nd May '07 2:08 PM

As much as I love racing, and have since I was a kid, I am worried this farce called the car of tomorrow is going to make NASCAR the sport of yesterday. It has total erased the concept of brands of cars. There is no longer anything about any of them that really makes them a Chevy or Ford. They may as well make them all Toyotas, Hondas and Volkswagens and be done with it.

I'm sorry. I just liked it better when what won on Sunday was actually related in some way to what sold on Monday. (Throws darts at a Dale & Michael Waltrip picture)

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Tue, 22nd May '07 2:22 PM

Couldn't agree more, ace. Sadly, it's all about the Benjamins. The US makers aren't putting the money into the sport any more; they can't afford it. Evidently. Toyota can, for all the good it's done them so far. The whole sport has become increasingly money-driven since the advent of ESPN, and I don't see a slowdown in the trend any time soon. The more popular it gets, the more profit-driven. You can see that in what's happened to the price of everything from tickets to tee shirts.

Texlewee  (Level: 34.1 - Posts: 601)
Tue, 22nd May '07 3:04 PM

Maybe there should be a new rule on Sploofus island that NO quizzes shall be released that do not have the approval of the UN.

That would be almost as possible as all the states in the USA agreeing on how to uphold Second Amendment Rights.

Aslan  (Level: 27.6 - Posts: 356)
Tue, 22nd May '07 4:49 PM

That's easy Tex. We just abolish the Second Amendment.

(Insert picture of Aslan running and hiding.)

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Tue, 22nd May '07 9:20 PM

I know cross-stitching - BUT I can always ask husband on NASCAR & Al Bundy if I have to

Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Tue, 22nd May '07 9:26 PM

Smoke: While you're waiting, you could try my NASCAR quiz...I think only 10 folks took it, but it's chock full of NASCAR glory days.

Joanneeberlin  (Level: 181.7 - Posts: 686)
Wed, 23rd May '07 7:49 AM

I thought it was just the movie that changed titles....I have the "Canadian" version of the book and its "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" - I had no idea the book title was also changed in the United States as well as the movie. I learned something new too.


Kaufman  (Level: 253.8 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 23rd May '07 8:39 AM

Yup, my copy of the book is all Sorcerors.

Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Wed, 23rd May '07 8:43 AM

We had "HP and the Philosopher's Stone" here in Oz.


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