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joanneeberlin
Joanneeberlin  (Level: 184.5 - Posts: 686)
Tue, 24th Jul '07 8:02 PM

JUST WONDERING....

How many gold and platinum members on the island? Does anyone out there know?

Jo

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Thu, 26th Jul '07 8:57 AM


I've seen this info posted by an Editor once in a while. Last time was in October, 2006, when the total membership was around 15,000. Now that it has nearly doubled, it would be interesting to know how the gold and platinum membership has grown, too.

Are the Editors allowed to post that info anymore?

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Thu, 26th Jul '07 12:31 PM

I am astonished there are so few paying members. I wish I had an answer on how to increase the numbers. Can we do some brainstorming here to maybe come up with some suggestions? The only thing I can think of is to limit free membership to six weeks or even six months. But then you'd probably have a big drop in users and that's not the best solution. Some of our members have to be in sales ... how would you increase sales?

sargon
Sargon  (Level: 112.0 - Posts: 1256)
Thu, 26th Jul '07 3:54 PM

I know it is unscientific but the listing of logged in members at the bottom of the screen would give some indication. At the moment of the 102 logged in 3 are platinum and 27 are gold.


jorboo
Jorboo  (Level: 39.1 - Posts: 141)
Thu, 26th Jul '07 9:09 PM

I think considering the amount of money for gold and platinum membership it is a bargain.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 27th Jul '07 11:33 AM

Come on Sploofus fans, where are some ideas? Remember, this is "brain-storming" so no idea is unworthy or "dumb." While my idea may not be workable, someone else may build on my idea and come up with a great one.

Having said that, here's something I've been thinking about. Everyone likes a chance at winning something. I don't know the way it would work or how much extra effort it would involve, but what if those who sign up gold in a month get their names put in a drawing for a prize, and those who sign up platinum have a chance at a little nicer prize?

Maybe for gold give away 10 Sploofus T-shirts. I don't know what numbers we're talking about here, so maybe only 5 T-shirts would be more realistic. Then for signing up or upgrading to platinum, maybe a drawing for one of 5 or 10 gifts of a package of a Sploofus mousepad AND a mug.

Or perhaps gift certificates for a certain amount to be spent in the Sploofus shop.

Just ideas of things that might appeal to me. How about the rest of you chipping in with some ideas?



salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Fri, 27th Jul '07 11:43 AM

This should have been my first post or at least at the top of my previous post:

I agree that at the prices charged, membership in this group is a real bargain. I spend more than my gold membership in one week on eating out. (And I'm going to upgrade to platinum as soon as I get a better computer and off dial-up.) But if we need to make the option a little more appealing to entice people to upgrade, then maybe that's one way of doing it.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Fri, 27th Jul '07 2:56 PM

Maybe there are some players who could donate some prizes or services to use as prizes. Tuzilla once offered to make a personal avatar for the first person who got 100% on a quiz (if I am remembering correctly).

I am sure lots of us have skills we could offer!

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 28th Jul '07 7:38 AM

Well...if anyone wants to send their kid to me, I'll tutor him in Earth Science. Er...maybe that was a bad skill to offer as then I would probably have to feed him and have a teenager in the house again. I take it back.

I originally become Golden (after only a week on Sploofus) because of the WordPuzzles. I wanted to do them all. I would think that if there were more special features in which only paying members could participate it might get others to ante up. I became Platinum when it was clear that Justin needed a cash infusion, and I was totally hooked on the site.

I think it is fair to say that we see the same hundred or so user names over and over again. But, as there are over 26,000 members, that would seem to mean that most of them are just doing TQOTD. I know, that of the many folks I have referred to Sploofus, only a few are still here, and only 2 of them are really active, doing more than their TQOTD. I cannot even get my adult daughter, who does do her daily question, to take most of my quizzes! I have to tell her when there is one that I think she will like.

So, seems to me that the answer is the addition of features that will grab folks who are interested in all different things. I do think that Justin is working on that; he has given us hints about what will be included in the 2.0 site. I just wish it was here!!

Alice

zeedee
Zeedee  (Level: 224.7 - Posts: 1088)
Sat, 28th Jul '07 8:04 AM

I agree that additional features are the best draw. I went gold for the word puzzles. I hated waiting a whole week for another puzzle. So far, there is no feature that entices me to move to platinum--maybe there will be something in the new version.

Zeedee


felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 28th Jul '07 9:00 AM

Increase sales? That's easy just ask me.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 7:04 AM

Please Felix....what is your idea for increasing sales ????

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 9:15 AM

Step one: Level the playing field. A newbie starting today would have to feel like the ant moving the rubber tree plant. Keep the points but give new members some hope as well. To attract the masses you must be middle of the road. A rotating variety of skilled trivia games would keep players coming back to see what was new or competitive for them. Word games (Round, Puzzles and Match) have become tiresome as they same people win over and over. Average 50 players a round does not equal mass appeal. The 'Who am I' came close as it gave the average Joe a chance to compete with the Sploofus elite.

Bring back fill in the blank. It had mass appeal. Which is they way to attract fans. I'd rather take a quick "Swiper" FITB as anything I seen with an EA on it. Editors giving other Editors awards doesn't make me want to go Platinum. Players as players and Editors as editors would make more sense. FITB quizzes dominated the 'Most Popular' board when they were allowed. Duh.

When an Idea becomes does not catch on scrap it. The community quiz takers verses the total membership does not equal "Fan Favorite". It's for the purist and does have it's place. Sell to the Masses and Live with the Classes (or something like that).

If the Country Club Clique here does not cancel me for this post. (an editor did threaten me last week) I'd be glad to unvail my Marketing 101 step two.

Do not misunderstand me, Justin Morton has put his heart and soul into this awesome product. That was not the concern. The question was how to increase sales. The answer as with any product is to have mass appeal.

I'm done you can wake up now.

Felix Gates Buffet Rockefeller






salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.5 - Posts: 5316)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 1:37 PM

Thanks Felix, you tossed out some great ideas. Some of the puzzles you mentioned were before I joined so I'm not familiar with them, but they sound like fun.

I agree with you that this is no way a criticism of Justin. Sploofus is a great site and has provided me with hours of fun and I've "met" (via chat, etc.) some neat people. But one person can do just so much and then any one would need help, so I hope Justin accepts these ideas in the spirit in which they are given.

I, for one, would be very interested in hearing more of your suggestions Felix, as well as those of anyone else. Remember, this is brainstorming and all ideas should be welcome without criticism or critiquing.

mitchy
Mitchy  (Level: 130.6 - Posts: 964)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 1:42 PM

I strongly agree on this: "Word games (Round, Puzzles and Match) have become tiresome as they same people win over and over. Average 50 players a round does not equal mass appeal". When I first came to sploofus, I quickly became discouraged steady trying to compete with the fast WR-WM times. I sometimes got angry cause, "I wanted to win too!!1 think I even posted a time or two "Please Let Me Have This One"..................... It never happenend. So I got DSL. It helped Immensely. But sometimes I get sad cause I just cant get close to.... The Same WR-WM Winners. "I wanna win too"! and it Isn't fun if you can't win sometimes, Yet the same people are steady winning every round. So there is no competition. "What's So Fun About That?" Now, all of you WR-WM masters please dont get me wrong...You should be very proud cause im sure it took lots and lots work and practice to get where you are, And Thats A good Thing!! But.. "We Wanna Win Too!
OK, I said enough already. I hope i didnt make anybody mad cause that certainly was not my intentions........"I Ain't Got Nuthin But Love Ya!"


bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 3:07 PM

Felix, I think a lot of what you have said has a lot of merit. I just wanted to disagree on one point. When I first stumbled across Sploofus, there were folks here with billions of points. I was shocked and amazed. It didn't turn me off, though - I just figured that they had been here forever. You know what? Now I have billions of points.

Also need to disagree about your "Editors giving other Editors Awards" phrase. I take a lot of the EA quizzes, and they seem to be written by many different folks. Surely they cannot all be editors. I suspect that you may have cause and effect backwards. Perhaps some of these people may be editors because they write quizzes worthy of EAs.

I do agree about some of the features getting old. I have stopped doing Word Rounds and Word Matches because there is no way I can compete. I think it all comes down to the style of your mouse, and I am not going shopping. When I was doing them regularly, I never ever found a golden nugget or a blue diamond - so maybe this is all sour grapes. I seemed to be the only one there without decorations.

I do believe that Justin is working on other features - he has alluded to them in Hotwire, and the Kerblunk has said coming soon for awhile. I would prefer to think that these features really are coming soon.

Alice

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 5:01 PM

Alice, perhaps I overstated the amount of nepotism in EA thing. Regardless the whole thing has no accountability to the majority of the quiz authors. One thing I did fail to mention in Step One, is 'more polls'. Eliminating the elitist few from making all the suggestions always helps a product or service. While designers and idealists are a must in development, middle of road opinions are what sees product. I am glad at least one Sploofer realized that anything said here is because of my love for Sploofus regardless of what others may think. I'll reiterate: Justin is a Genius!!!!

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 5:09 PM

I noticed that this site is not listed on DMOZ...seems to me that is a great clearinghouse for gaming and other resources. I'm not sure how it is run, though. Anyone have any ideas? I am assuming it's not open source. Getting Sploofus listed there would be a great asset!

Robin

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 280.2 - Posts: 6643)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 5:10 PM

re WR and WM.
I suspect performance is 90% down to computer and 10% inspiration.
Rach66 must be some kind of freak -- i know I'll never catch her on equal terms.
but when i travel to odd bits of the world and play in Tokyo or Turkey and hit a dead spot, i win from time to time. Thats a great feeling; and if i break the top 10 I'm happy.
Re EA. I'm NOT an editor. When i win an EA it more than makes my day. And i know there is no nepotism in there -- the suggestion that there is rather takes away from our performances. i know when i write a good quiz...and waiting to see if the editor agrees is a nice experience of expectation/hope. Always a validation when they agree.
Yes the 'who the heck am I?' was fun --but i'm sure Justin would give it back to us if he could! Here's hoping. It was guessing one correctly that turned me gold for a month --and after that boy, was i hoooked!
Garrybl

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 29th Jul '07 5:24 PM

Garrybl, I've always enjoyed your work. The comment was not a slight to anyone. Unknown presenters of awards are dubious at best. My "World's Handsomest Man Award" was given to me by The Felix Foundation. It means a lot to me, but has little validity other than that. And yes, the paranoids are after me.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 7:00 PM

Just a little suggestion....
I am a member on other websites that offer puzzles, info etc.
In my profile on those sites, I have started to list
Sploofus.com as one of my hobbies
Just hoping that readers of my profile will be curious enough
to investigate what that means.

Do you think that's a good idea????

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 9:30 PM

It's a great idea. I do it as well.

mandy226
Mandy226  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 128)
Wed, 8th Aug '07 5:44 PM

Like Garrybl, I won gold for a month on the Name That Song puzzle. Then because I'd had a taste of full membership I couldn't go back to free membership and upgraded to gold. As I was well and truly hooked by then, when I was due to renew again, I went platinum. Perhaps then, the answer is to give free members a taste of the benefits that full membership gives, maybe a free week of gold membership.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Tue, 14th Aug '07 9:19 AM

Yeah!!!! Hook 'em just like we're hooked.......
Full membership for a month and then cut them off!!!!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Tue, 14th Aug '07 7:13 PM

World's Handsomest Man Award?

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Tue, 14th Aug '07 7:28 PM

I had an idea...(ok it wasn't the first one I ever had so back off Lodi).

When buying memberships for other people (which I have been known to do from time to time), you could get a % of their points (say 1 or 5) for that time period.

It would increase the revenue and also It would also help foster relationships between newer Sploofs and "more experienced" Sploofusers.

I like the idea of the "free sample" too. God knows that's how I got hooked on a number of my food issues.

Me.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 15th Aug '07 4:40 AM

Yes Lodi. Weren't you at the ceremony?

banomet
Banomet  (Level: 175.1 - Posts: 266)
Wed, 15th Aug '07 8:26 AM

I kind of like that idea, Kelly! The only problem I see with it is that Larrybus would be paid up for the next 50 years, and what would happen to his sponsor if he lost a billion point wager?!



kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 15th Aug '07 11:51 AM

They'd get it back two weeks later. The bounces would sort of be like the stock market, except your lost points would actually come back, instead of being taken by some guy in a suit to Bermuda.

cathyincayman
Cathyincayman  (Level: 50.2 - Posts: 33)
Tue, 28th Aug '07 5:02 PM

I like the idea of the bait membership. It's working for me, a friend gave me a 3month Gold membership and I'll definatly renew it, for the chat room privileges alone. It's TOTALLY worth the money, also a few free 3 month membership incentives would be great say for referrals or when you reach level 5 or so??? Cathy


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