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Thu, 2nd Aug '07 6:02 PM


Hello all,

There have been a ton of support tickets recently due to the delays and lag in the Showdown system. Today I have updated the current Showdown scripts to eliminate those delays and errors. It only took 3 years!?

Also, while I haven't revealed any of the new features of Sploofus 2.0, I will tell you that one of the changes is the challenger being able to select the Showdown category; after all they ARE assuming the risk PLUS it will make Showdowns more fun.

Oh, and about Sploofus 2.0, the registered beta testers are going to have a nice surprise in their e-mail inboxes here in mid August...

Redwingchick  (Level: 91.1 - Posts: 420)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 7:28 PM

Love the idea of the challenger being able to pick the category. You are right we are taking the risk we should have a little advantage. Thanks Justin!

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 7:29 PM

I enjoy doing Showdowns except that I am slower than a snail with my answer times. I have won more being carelessly wrong than I have being correct. I think it may be an idea to give a percentage for being correct if you aren't the fastest. I can't wait until I can pick a category when challenging.


Sargon  (Level: 111.2 - Posts: 1256)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 7:31 PM

Will the defender be told the category and will they be able to turn down the challenge?

Maurlin  (Level: 211.2 - Posts: 2661)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 7:47 PM

I would never turn down a showdown challenge since it would not cost me anything if I'm wrong and i may just get lucky and guess right quickly. The way it works now, if the person challenged chooses not to answer, the challenger automatically wins. There's no reason that I can see not to respond.

Cjar855  (Level: 133.4 - Posts: 838)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 7:49 PM

Things are looking up! Thank You Justin.I like the idea of picking a catagory.

Sargon  (Level: 111.2 - Posts: 1256)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 9:39 PM

My question is if the defender doesn't like the category will they have a chance to call off the challenge. Then the challenger would not gain points.

Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Thu, 2nd Aug '07 10:23 PM

Cool,get ready to be challenged with alot of sports questions(cause that is all I really know)lol.

Geophile  (Level: 157.4 - Posts: 1510)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 12:39 AM

Oh, that's gonna' be cool!

Bigbird  (Level: 236.4 - Posts: 3300)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 7:10 AM

Thanks, Justin, that sounds great. Maybe I will use some of those 101 showdown tokens I have cluttering up my pocket.


Berylm  (Level: 154.0 - Posts: 478)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 7:15 AM

Why should they, Sargon?

The challenger is assuming all the risk - all the challengee has to do is try - if they lose the showdown they don't lose any points, if they win it they do win the points - whereas if the challenger loses the showdown (s)he does lose the points.

If it's not your favourite category, so what?! You're not going to lose anything! Go for it - or ignore it if you can't be bothered!

Tiggerdb  (Level: 82.2 - Posts: 37)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 8:19 AM

Recently, I was challenged, and even though I got the answer correct, I wasn't fast enough to win the challenge (by only a couple of seconds). My suggestion would be to keep asking questions of the two players until only one of them gets the question right. I think this would be fairer as not everyone plays with the fastest connection times. This way, the showdown would truly be a trivia challenge of who knows the answer rather than who knows the answer faster.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 8:49 AM

I like the format as it is in terms of the fact that only the challenger assumes any risk - when I'm challenged and I don't get it - I've learned something new - one of my favorite parts of sploofus - picking the category will at least give the challenger a small advantage of hopefully knowing a bit more about what to prepare themselves for - since the challengee assumes no risk whatsoever (as it should be) - giving the challenger some control should be helpful in all those showdown tokens collecting dust - I think personally it's a great idea - to me, any changes should be done to give the one who will lose tokens an advantage - not the challengee - after all if they win they are getting a freebie

Sargon  (Level: 111.2 - Posts: 1256)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 1:53 PM

Some people look at points, some look at what position they are on the leaderboard. I realize a defender would not lose points but they would lose postion on the leaderboard.
Maybe it tips the field too far towards the challenger. Because they not only know their own strength they can also tell what weaknesses the defender has.
It would be a better test of players if the trivia wager question was generated randomly. The best players would be at the top of the standings because of general knowledge not because of their expertise in one category.

Fookie  (Level: 128.5 - Posts: 36)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 3:05 PM

Ditto, Sargon. No ofense to Alaskan420, but how many people may have exempted a category such as Sports, in this example, to be faced with a showdown question only in Sports? Only in Geography? Too easy for the challenger.

Alaskan420  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 191)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 3:38 PM

Fookie,you are so nice you could never offend me

Maurlin  (Level: 211.2 - Posts: 2661)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 7:05 PM

If we can challenge only the person above us, and that person chooses not to allow the challenge in the category we choose, we're back to accumulating even more Showdown tokens and never using them (at least I am). I really like the idea of the challenger getting to choose the category without the option of having it rejected.

Koota  (Level: 180.6 - Posts: 2098)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 7:16 PM

It would be awesome if the Challengee would have not have to answer questions from the category from which they have exempted themselves.

So, if you've exempted yourself from the Sports category ... you would at least have some defense against Wayne (Alaskan420).

LOL, Wayne! Bring it ON!

Larrybus  (Level: 304.7 - Posts: 383)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 7:36 PM


Before the TQOTD categories were consolidated in late 2005, showdowns seemed to avoid both players' exempted categories. Since then, they don't. In late 2005-early 2006 I had a stretch of 11 consecutive showdowns in which 9 were in my exempted category. That greatly discouraged me from challenging anybody since.

Diva305  (Level: 145.9 - Posts: 1643)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 11:38 PM

72 Showdown tokens
Will trade for a blue diamond (at least a 3 carat)
or two bedpans

Berylm  (Level: 154.0 - Posts: 478)
Fri, 3rd Aug '07 11:52 PM

Sargon, even where the challengee is thinking of position - as far as they're concerned there's no difference! At the moment, if you're challenged, you get a random category; after this change, if you're challenged, it's still random as far as you're concerned, albeit less random to the challenger.

At the moment the showdown system is grossly unfair to the challenger, since (s)he carries ALL the risk - all the challengee will see if (s)he loses is a drop of one place on the leaderboard, fullstop. If (s)he wins, it means loads of extra points and a jump of at least one, maybe several places up the leaderboard.

The challenger might win, and gain loads of points and several places on the leaderboard (at a cost of a mere one place and no points to the loser) - but if (s)he loses, then it's a drop of ALL those points AND up to several places on the leaderboard.

No, I'm sorry, allowing the challenger to choose the category (or maybe two categories, so if the first is the challengee's exempted category it'll go to the second) is to me only levelling the playing field a little bit, and since it will make absolutely no visible difference to the challengee I really don't see why you're worried!

Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Sat, 4th Aug '07 1:07 AM, who would you challenge, anyway...God?

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sat, 4th Aug '07 2:57 AM

Palma....loved your attempt to lighten this discussion.
Would very much love to know why you need TWO bedpans????
In case there's an overflow of the brown stuff????

Bigbird  (Level: 236.4 - Posts: 3300)
Sat, 4th Aug '07 8:05 AM

Robin - That's very funny!! Larry - I guess I am newer than that Showdown system, cause I don't remember that being the case. I think it would be great if you could not be challenged in your exempt category. Actually, may I please exempt a second category???


Garrybl  (Level: 276.7 - Posts: 6611)
Mon, 6th Aug '07 5:55 PM

great idea re exempted category.
That would even the playing field just a little as opposed to a possible situation where one person gets to select what might be the other persons weak spot.
roll on 2.0!!

Crazy4games  (Level: 122.7 - Posts: 1020)
Tue, 28th Aug '07 12:10 PM

Would that be August of THIS year??

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Tue, 28th Aug '07 12:18 PM

For everyone who wishes to challenge favorite
category is Sports!!!! So don't risk trying to beat me
in Sports!!!! I'm a Sports NUT!!!! Unbeatable(Sports)!!!!

Geniuswaitress  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 381)
Tue, 28th Aug '07 1:18 PM

It seems perfectly fair to me. If you get challenged in a cat you don't like, then you retaliate with a challenge in one you DO.

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