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kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Thu, 16th Aug '07 8:41 PM

TWO

Fried myself big time on the long winded/worded one where I start off with a T and get "there are no T's" - I just about feel over - the fact that the answer was about Simon & Garfunkel is the ONLY redemption and forgiveness has been awarded

Overall - fun puzzle - clever - and got the "two" into the 1st puzzle fairly quickly.

And here's _o you Mrs. Robinson

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 16th Aug '07 8:47 PM

I had exactly the same experience, Kaelin! I got it third after two easy ones - took the wind RIGHT outta my sails! Loved the puzzle though, if not the final scores so much.

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Thu, 16th Aug '07 8:51 PM

I finally beat ya, Donna, so I loved it

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3300)
Thu, 16th Aug '07 10:56 PM

But sadly, the winner appeared to solve that puzzle in 11 moves. I do say appeared. No way that this feat could have been achieved without a little help from some friend. Or friends.

Alice

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 16th Aug '07 10:58 PM

I was thinking the same, Bird. Been a few suspicious ones of late, I must say.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 16th Aug '07 10:59 PM

And YES YOU DID Miss Randypants! Good on ya, girl! You go! My missing day is coming up soon. You'll close the gap then.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 17th Aug '07 12:13 AM

Sorry, Alice, there are no 'R's. That will cost you 100 points.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3300)
Fri, 17th Aug '07 6:37 AM

Ken - LOL! Don't make me think so hard this early in the morning! Took awhile. I agree, no R. How silly of me.

Alice

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Fri, 17th Aug '07 7:48 AM

But there IS an s! LOL@ clever Ken.

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.1 - Posts: 1683)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 11:10 AM

I don't usually stir the pot but seems really snotty to accuse someone of having the help of a friend or friends (which actually accuses them of cheating) when it is perfectly fine for a select few to finish in the top ten almost every puzzle. And woe be unto anyone who might think that because you have a husband, mother, sister, brother, daughter, son etc. that also plays then perhaps you might be getting the same help. I think its obvious when a cheater comes in (i.e. the phishy 1st place) but to just accuse someone of cheating because they perhaps just got lucky and hit on a puzzle in my opinion is rude. I do not know the person who was accused but if I were her I would be feeling pretty badly at this point. I feel badly for her.
As I stated before, I am not trying to pick a fight and can leave this site just like I entered it but I really think someone is owed an apology unless there are facts to prove otherwise. Cindy

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6639)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 11:54 AM

I agree.
There are some impossible scores (last week someone had a WP accident with a score of 1) but most scores in the range 11-15 are feasible on most puzzles --arent they?

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 12:05 PM

I would be extremely reluctant to accuse anyone by name without strong evidence indeed, and when I do, so far it's been done in private (and only once, and I was right, 'nuff said). Even so, it's sometimes painfully obvious that things are not on the level, and I don't see any reason not to voice suspicion in the most blatant examples. Sometimes it helps clean up the game for a while.

If it's possible to cheat at anything, out of nearly 30,000 people, a few are going to do it, and it's unrealistic to pretend they don't. I've been accused myself, more than once, so I realize as well as anyone that when suspicions are unjust it's offensive and hurtful, but I don't blame people for questioning my scores, and I'm now good friends with my former doubters. I defended myself vigorously (and I hope convincingly), and explained in some detail how I did it and why I knew those facts. Anyone who's accused should do exactly the same without hesitation.

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.1 - Posts: 1683)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 12:21 PM

As stated, I am not trying to pick a fight, however that said, it was easy enough to know who the person was that was being accused. (a 70 year old player) I am 62 and feel the sting when younger people that I work with seem to think the years somehow have dulled my knowledge. I just think that the sploofus machine is capable of making the judgement calls instead of peers attacking one another. I do not enter into banter with young people who think they have a corner on the market of knowledge. I am, by a few years, younger than the "suspicious" person but I would not even hazard a guess as to who cheated and who didn't. Just because you may not score in the top 10 or 20 every puzzle doesn't mean you should be suspect for scoring a first once in a blue moon nor should you have to defend your luck. I will end here, I have a grandson playing his first football game today and that's where I need to be. Sorry if I ruffled feathers but sometimes I think we all need to step back and rethink our egos. Cindy

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 12:29 PM

Sorry, but my ego has nothing to do with a desire for honesty and fair play for everyone, not just for myself. There are plenty of folks here who can and do beat me fair and square on a regular basis and I have absolutely no problem with that.

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.1 - Posts: 1683)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 12:36 PM

The statements I made were addressed to any or all of the 30,000 members not necessarily one person. I myself have sometimes wailed "no way" but as I said I think the powers that be at sploofus are capable of monitoring the games without my help. If I choose to object to a game result I can do so in private but not at the expense of another member. Cindy

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 12:50 PM

Duly noted and logged. No promises, but I'll certainly have your thoughts in mind should I again feel the impulse to comment on the problem.

Cheers!

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 1:27 PM

May I also say that I never had any thought or knowledge about anyone's age. I'm 60 myself in a few days, and someone's age is not much more than a number to me. Nor do I think dishonest behavior, should it occur in any arena, is a bit more acceptable from someone because of their age, however young or old.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3300)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 3:47 PM

Cindy - Well, I'm a aged 62, myself. I will agree that on many puzzles scores in single digits might even be likely. If something is a food, a song title, a movie, etc, and that's your interest and your expertise, well then scores of 5,6,7, etc are perfectly possible.

However, that particular puzzle was not of that nature. Senility is my middle name, and I don't remember too many specifics, but I do remember one of those puzzles:

"Chang and Eng Bunker were famous conjoined twins". OK, so I'd probably start by guessing an E. If I then guessed an N I might actually have it - but only if I knew that their last name was Bunker.

I just remembered another one: "US route two connects Washington and Michigan". How many moves would that take?

The winner of that puzzle solved 5 of those in 11 moves. That means he or she only needed 6 letters altogether to solve 5 toughies.

I don't remember what the next closest score was - but I don't think it was anywhere near that brilliant.

Alice

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 219.7 - Posts: 1935)
Sat, 18th Aug '07 4:26 PM

Sometimes the computer screws up & gives someone a better score than they earned, perhaps that's what happened on this one. However, they have been 4 other winners in the last month or so, who were brand new & have not played anything since. I wrote three of their names down & checked. I know one of them knocked a regular player out of the top 10, who had had their best finish ever. That's just dirty pool! I suspect it will keep happening Guess they don't have lives!


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