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kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 10:48 PM

SIMPLE SURVEY

This is just yes or no - I am not asking for a book on explaining a position, and you course have the right NOT to respond to this post. This is basically to satisfy my curiosity from reading different profiles, and seeing posts on the board - and seeing the level of brainpower that operates on Sploofus Island...with that long winded preamble (and I would ask that your response be on a general level - not related to current political atmosphere and your agreement or disagreement of it)

Do you consider your PERSONAL guiding compass to be conservative or liberal (no need to define far left / far right - etc).

I actually have a purpose and no intention of starting or handling a political debate - that's not what the question is about

I'll see how the answers come in or don't -- please everyone - this is not an invitation to criticize!!! (Do I need any more disclaimers?)

kimoira
Kimoira  (Level: 201.8 - Posts: 1190)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 10:54 PM

I used to be about as far left as you could get in my 20s, began to veer ever more toward the right in my 30s and now I come down a little right of center. I hope that helps

rev66
Rev66  (Level: 86.4 - Posts: 85)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:01 PM

Mostly to the left.

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 478)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:04 PM

Conservative.

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 220.4 - Posts: 1935)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:17 PM

Started far to left & stayed

lucimoore
Lucimoore  (Level: 183.2 - Posts: 1684)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:20 PM

Way left

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3302)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:25 PM

pretty left but with some strangely conservative streaks

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:26 PM

Liberal.

pocahontas1951
Pocahontas1951  (Level: 55.4 - Posts: 172)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:32 PM

Conservative

cjar855
Cjar855  (Level: 133.4 - Posts: 838)
Sat, 22nd Sep '07 11:48 PM

Liberal

73boo
73boo  (Level: 12.1 - Posts: 14)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:43 AM

Ditto to what Bigbird said above.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:51 AM

Independent - have likes & hates on both sides of the spectrum.

missashlee
Missashlee  (Level: 125.6 - Posts: 543)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:54 AM

Wait. Kaelin, you sneaky devil!

I was contemplating left and right. If I face north, left is west, and east is right. Oh, hello! You asked liberal or conservative ... not left or right ... so I can face east! And north is right, and south is left. All I have to do, is face a different direction to be labeled!

I don't know what the current dictionary would label me. Is my heart and soul, you cannot see.

So ... good luck in your survey! Think you pegged us BIG time ...

geophile
Geophile  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 1521)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:55 AM

I started out to the left of a salad fork...mostly still there.



salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 5316)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:13 AM

Pretty conservative with a few streaks of liberal

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:25 AM

Started out Conservative....
then got totally disgusted.
Now firmly LEFT!!!!

xhoney1
Xhoney1  (Level: 76.0 - Posts: 185)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:24 AM

Liberal

maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 5:02 AM

I can never remember whether left is liberal or conservative, but I would classify myself as a bleeding liberal, but without the blood, since I'm too cowardly to even write a Letter to the Editor in the newapaper or put a bumber sticker on my car.

4getful1
4getful1  (Level: 176.0 - Posts: 2925)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 5:37 AM

Left leaning centrist with a religious bent.

larefamiliaris
Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 7:28 AM

Aries, with Scorpio rising.

And if I was any more Liberal, you could pull a corner of my mind out of each ear and knot it under my chin.

achad
Achad  (Level: 204.2 - Posts: 661)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 8:06 AM

Hmmm, started off with 'Grocer' Heath followed by the Iron Lady, Mrs. T. Nowadays 'Bullyboy' Brown is a little rightwing for me. At least we have a Lib-Dem council in Liverpool!

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.9 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 8:37 AM

Aging hippie wannabe -- mostly liberal with some nice libertarian streaks.

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 5316)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 9:33 AM

Wow! So far Berylm and Pocahontas1951 and I as conservatives are definitely in the minority. I expected it to be a little more evenly divided. Maybe the conservatives are still thinking about whether or not to post their opinion!


donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 10:29 AM

I don't know if I am a conservative democrat or a liberal republican.

roccotab
Roccotab  (Level: 60.4 - Posts: 185)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 11:27 AM

Nascar politics for me, always bearing left.

tmitsss
Tmitsss  (Level: 242.8 - Posts: 1)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:19 PM

Life long yellow dog Democrat until 9/11/01, now I would be considered conservative. I am a big fan of Victor Davis Hanson.

siouxsie
Siouxsie  (Level: 104.6 - Posts: 145)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:28 PM

Liberal--used to be a yellow-dog Democrat and still am!

rosebud
Rosebud  (Level: 211.2 - Posts: 1)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 12:29 PM

Conservative

cruised
Cruised  (Level: 131.1 - Posts: 2)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:04 PM

liberal

lancaster
Lancaster  (Level: 228.1 - Posts: 176)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:25 PM

Conservative until my 50's,now fairly liberal

lblewis
Lblewis  (Level: 47.0 - Posts: 31)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:28 PM

Liberal

sploofus
Justin  
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:31 PM

What Rowlanda said...

geniuswaitress
Geniuswaitress  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 381)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:41 PM

So left I have to claim Independent, as the liberals are too conservative these days.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:43 PM

Me too, GW! Read a funny quote in the paper this morning: "I'm not a member of an organized political party - I'm a Democrat."

geophile
Geophile  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 1521)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 1:47 PM

Maurlin, you're not a bleeding liberal- you're are an armchair liberal!

It's funny how your views about a person can change. I used to think Pat Buchanan was about the lowest form of life and now I find myself listening to him, not always agreeing with him, but he's an interesting guy, especially paired with Tucker Carlson.


kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:01 PM

It's fair to put mine in - as I'm a conservative - but the posts are confirming the reason I started the survey

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:02 PM

My PERSONAL guiding compass (which is, after all, the question that was asked) - is conservative: I would never have an abortion, my family comes first, I prefer to decide how to spend the money I earn rather than letting the government decide for me, I could never be a nudist, I believe in using good grammar, spelling and punctuation in everything I write (even text messages, which I rarely use) and I think people should work for a living.

My politics, religious beliefs, philosophy of life and views on education are extremely liberal! I think every woman should get to decide for herself whether an abortion is the solution for her; I think whatever god/gods/goddesses/devil you choose to worship (or none) is fine if it works for you; I think we should all share our wealth with those less fortunate and help those in need; I think rules of grammar and spelling and punctuation were made to be challenged (or broken); I believe that art (in all forms) is a necessary part of human existence and artistic license is the only license anyone needs; I don't think the government should try to legislate morals or common sense; and I think everyone has the right to marry and live with whomever (and how ever many) they please.

I know you didn't want a book, but I felt the need to clarify

geophile
Geophile  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 1521)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:15 PM

Excellent comments Suzer...well said!



1mks
1mks  (Level: 210.9 - Posts: 5883)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:43 PM

More conservative than liberal.......depends on exactly what is being discussed.

jorboo
Jorboo  (Level: 39.1 - Posts: 141)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 2:46 PM

I would say liberal.

geniuswaitress
Geniuswaitress  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 381)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:03 PM

Good grammar belongs to the conservatives? I know some politicians that didn't get the memo .

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:32 PM

Yeah, liberals love our families too!

mplaw51
Mplaw51  (Level: 179.5 - Posts: 1582)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:45 PM

I'm mostly liberal but some issues cause me to have a conservative thought, I vote independently for the candidate that appears to speak the thoughts I want to hear at election time, though I'm more often than not disappointed in both parties.

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:47 PM

Are you sure, GW? Maybe you 'misunderestimated' some of them...

Another liberal here.

My mom told me a funny story about my grandmother (staunch republican--and saint) and how she was worried about my uncle; "...and...I think he's a democrat!" Horrors! Unfortunately, although I find this an interesting survey, I have a feeling that it may set the cat among the pigeons if we "qualify" our answers.

phitzy1
Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:49 PM

bleeding heart liberal and an iron fisted fascist...

geniuswaitress
Geniuswaitress  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 381)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 3:50 PM

I agree. May be best to answer the question w/o the details, which may be provocative.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 4:03 PM

What's sad is how this conversation has been polarized in recent years to the point where even trying to discuss it is a minefield. "Liberal" has been demonized by the far right and "conservative" has virtually lost all meaning under the current administration. Do any of the folks defining themselves as conservative also consider themselves *neo*conservatives? Whatever happened to the kind of conservative who believed in small government and minimal interference in private life? It seems sometimes that all that's left of that philosophy is a relentless drive to gut public education and starve other vital services out of existence.

I say "seems sometimes" in hope that no one will be offended or get defensive. There's a contentious election season upon us here in the US, and if we can't talk calmly in sweeping generalities now, heaven help us all in the coming year.

I mean no disrespect to anyone's beliefs. Liberals love everyone.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 4:33 PM

My point in explaining my answer has been missed, as the original question was...

No one asked how you vote or what you believe politically...but rather, the question asked about your PERSONAL COMPASS. How do you live your life??? I interpret that to mean how I make personal choices, NOT how I vote in an election, which party I might be affiliated with.

One can dress conservatively regardless of ones political preference. I think following the rules is a conservative way to behave, while pushing the limits and testing every law (even the laws of nature) is the opposite of conservative - which is not necessarily liberal but perhaps liberating

Not trying to start a debate about which is better...just concerned when people do not answer the question that was asked.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 4:39 PM

Pardon me if I missed the fineness of the point. Please disregard any information offered which exceeds the scope of the original question.

My personal compass is liberal but I am not a nudist.

rael61
Rael61  (Level: 139.5 - Posts: 68)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 4:49 PM

Being one to not discuss things political or religious, I'll just say "yes."

stone
Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 5:01 PM

Generally, conservative, unless it's to get more money for the Gulf Coast. I want the government to spend more on us.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 6:57 PM

The reason I made all the disclaimers is I did not want the survey to turn into something that would be negative.

We all have our hot buttons that force us to jump up and defend...and we should not have to.

Being that I am in America, what I do love is that we all have the ability to be who we are, believe what we want, say what we want, including criticizing a government we believe is wrong without fear (as long as what we say does no harm - i.e. can't yell fire in a crowded theater)...the reason I clarified is that I didn't want anyone to feel that they had to defend their position or choice - it was really that simple - we all believe things for different reasons. I always tell my kids that I don't expect them to always agree with me - but that I expect them to be able to base their belief on logic and their own thoughts and interpretations, NOT that of the media, Hollywood or anyone else



sargon
Sargon  (Level: 112.0 - Posts: 1256)
Sun, 23rd Sep '07 7:01 PM

Just like Thomas Jefferson I am a liberal.

eazedzt
Eazedzt  (Level: 64.7 - Posts: 1)
Tue, 25th Sep '07 10:19 AM

Conservative with liberal sprinklings

oogie54
Oogie54  (Level: 201.3 - Posts: 1120)
Tue, 25th Sep '07 8:50 PM

Confused apathetic anarchist


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