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Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Tue, 25th Sep '07 11:22 PM


Okay, I can see how someone could get single digits. By doing googling and getting lists, I guessed one puzzle w/o any moves, and that certainly could have happened more. My socre was 24, but it opened by eyes !

Redwingchick  (Level: 91.1 - Posts: 420)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 12:02 AM

I absolve you in the name of the Globe and of the Trivium and of the Holy Alliance. Go forth in Sploofus your sins ar forgiven you.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 8:13 PM

Yes Smaug....I guessed ahead of time that AGATHA CHRISTIE would be
the perfect quiz to Google. And looking at the scores and times....
that's exactly what happened.
As someone remarked to another of your posts...."an honest cheat"
Thank you for that....

Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 8:38 PM

I can never figure out what people mean when they point to time as an indication of cheating. Do you mean a short solving time, indicating Google Masters who zero in on correct answers with rocket speed? Well, that means you're discounting the legitimate experts who simply know the subject at hand. Or do you mean the long solving times, indicating Research Fiends determined to locate a quote from a single word? Because that discounts people who might have to answer the phone in the middle of solving, or someone who will routinely spend five minutes trying to solve a puzzle with two letters before choosing a third.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 8:57 PM

What I meant Lamizell, is
- Someone who does all 5 questions in 5 moves....with NO letters
entered - doesn't use nearly 10 minutes to go through 5 screens.
What were they doing with the extra minutes used?

Don't know what other people mean....

Kimoira  (Level: 212.9 - Posts: 1195)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 9:04 PM

I think times are meaningless- if you get a lot of interruptions when and where you do the WPs- it makes all the difference in the world!

Hossapple  (Level: 214.5 - Posts: 4)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 9:46 PM

Rowlanda, I don't know much about other folks, but I suck my toes in between puzzles and that takes at least a minute for each toe.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 9:56 PM

Gives a whole new meaning to
"You are what you eat!!!!"

Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 10:23 PM

Lol,i dont give a rats azz who is doing what. I walk my own path,do what i want and play the quizzes i like.I feel there is way too much crap on who has the most points.Who cares,its only a number,what are they good for except bragging rights.

Come on guys/gals,get a grip,just a game to be played,not playin the player.This "old dog" has been here from the first,trust me,grumble all you want but check the scores,they wont change cause ya biatch,lol.

Hossapple  (Level: 214.5 - Posts: 4)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 10:29 PM

Last time I looked I still had eleven. Shows to go ya, ya don't know what folks do.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 10:33 PM

This is a broad community with many people who do well a certain subjects and many who do well on many. All you have to do is look at some of the amazing quiz writers - triva is after all what this site is all about...People with CRS disease I'm sure don't join (I am assuming I don't have to explain CRS - and if I do, I can't because this is a family friendly site) - I don't assume someone is cheating if the do amazing well and I don't - I just assume they knew the subject - there is a definite american bend to the majority which I'm sure makes it difficult for Sploofusers from other countries. The thing that I enjoy most though, is the outcome of the gripes - the puzzle writers obviously read the boards because they have come up with some wonderful and challenging puzzles as a result - I guess that's the silk purse / sow's ear cliche!

I know that on my first (and have only had 3) 5 move solve I was SO excited and thrilled I had accomplished that - only to see the threads of cheating start and I was not at the top - I think there were probably 20 or so that day - but it made me feel so bad that someone thought that I had cheated to achieve it...makes it a real downer...but then I let it go - which you just gotta do - be true to yourself - you know the truth!

Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 10:39 PM

"What were they doing with the extra minutes used?"

I don't know ... *thinking*? Say I'm sitting there with a Shakespeare puzzle. I happen to know all Shakespeare's plays in alphabetical order because I'm a big ol' nerd. But that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to be able to match the puzzle to the play in seconds. There's not much difference among ------, -------, and --------, you know? Or ------ ------ and ------- -----.

You guys are just looking too hard.

Lblewis  (Level: 47.0 - Posts: 31)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:12 PM

All one has to do is look at tonights puzzle, where there is no list to google, and see the change in the # of moves.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:24 PM

Anyone can tell just by looking at my scores in ANY Sploofus area
I don't actually give a hoot about winning, scores, points, times
etc.etc. Sometimes I just get in on these discussions because I feel
sorry about the people who really do care....and offer an explanation
from my POV.
Hoss, it wasn't the # of toes I was thinking's the stuff
that collects between them....depending on where you stand!!!!
Sometimes at night, my puppy soils on the floor. Then I stumble to the
bathroom - feet bare and eyes shut!!!!

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:30 PM

Is researching a WP cheating? (I'm asking because I don't know). I think it makes it more fun than having to make 15 moves to figure out a 65 character pun that you'd never heard of and no one was going to stare at and guess in even 10 moves.

We are doing these outside Mets quizzes, and we put a time limit of 20 seconds per to tighten up on researching, but that is different, it is mostly stat based and there is no talent to take the next step with the answer. But that is different, with quizzes you can always take a guess.

I think researching a WP a bit and getting it in 25 moves is a hell of a lot more fun than banging moves out on some puzzle you are clueless about even after the answer comes up.

But, maybe, as I said one time about quizzes, some time penalty on moves would be a variety.

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:33 PM

PS; in the current puzzle, 20 of the top 27 scores took more than 10 minutes.

Vive la research! I think it is more fun.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:42 PM

With so many international members, and such a strong US mainstream
slant to most of the puzzles Smaug - it's inevitable there are many
WPs in which we just have to do letter at a time.

I wouldn't object to a time limit....content to just do my best!!!!

FYI to everyone....I don't use the word "cheater" People have differing
reasons for doing puzzles and quizzes in different ways.

Kaufman  (Level: 267.7 - Posts: 3941)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:47 PM

Smaug, as far as I know, there are no rules on what constitutes cheating, other than that you're supposed to go at it by yourself, with no help from other individuals, especially those who have already seen the puzzle. Beyond that, whether going to reference materials beforehand, or even going to them in the midst of your working on a puzzle, is fair, no one has laid down the law, although each of us has our own opinion on the matter.

I almost always go in cold and charge through on my own ... because that's how I like to do it.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:50 PM

Sorry - meant to add, it seems to me, the puzzles and
variety of quiz topics indicates that people are taking more
trouble to level the playing field, for members not overly
familiar with US pop culture.
Just wanted to say, it's been noticed and appreciated.

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Wed, 26th Sep '07 11:56 PM

Well, Kaufman, I've seen your ratings, and you can't expect me to compete with some sort of half-Vulcan, Rainman, A Beautiful Mind, ninja freak without some sort of weapon.

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