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Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 9:28 AM


First of all, keep all the people around California in your thoughts and prayers, what a mess. For the last two or three years, I've been noticing that Forest fires and Wildfires are becoming a year round occurance. I always thought it was something that happened in the late summer and fall. Being a CNN junkie I see fires all over our country. Draughts, lightening and storms are always blamed, you rarely hear that humans were to blame. I personally think that careless camping and outright arson are the culprits. Give me your thoughts. What ever happened to Smokey the Bear ??

Kimoira  (Level: 208.4 - Posts: 1191)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 10:39 AM

he's too busy buying carbon credits

Oldcougar  (Level: 224.6 - Posts: 1935)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 12:28 PM

Dorothy Parker would be proud Kim

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 12:35 PM

Smokey the Bear, Smokey the Bear
A-howling and a-growling and a-sniffin' the air
He can find a fire
Before it starts to flame
That's why they call him Smokey
And that's how he got his name

I would sing it for you, but....

(When I was 5, I was riding my rotten pony in a parade and he bit Smokey the Bear. Sorry Smokey).

Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 12:48 PM

Hee-hee! I guess the pont was em-bear-assed....depending on where Smokey got punctured, that is.

Seniorrita  (Level: 140.1 - Posts: 223)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 12:51 PM

Thank you for worrying about Californians! I think this is the worst it has been. Please notice that the winds have been as bad as they can get... sparks, burning palm trees, etc. have jumped freeways, blown into open garages and other places making the tragedy so terrible. On the morning NBC show they featured a development that actually had cleared the area at the perimeter of the development! I hope this becomes commonplace. The development was totally saved with fire approaching up to the cleared area.

I can't imagine where all the evacuees will go! I live about 90 miles from San Francisco but moved here from southern California. We had house guests over the weekend who had to drive home on Sunday and by (very near) the Santa Clarita fire, something in the grapevine and another near Irvine. I suggest anyone going that direction reconsider their plans... it isn't going to be pleasant down there for a long while.

Many folks don't realize the size of California! It's probably 350 miles from San Francisco to Los Angeles... below Los Angeles there is still another 150 miles of California and above San Francisco there is still another 200 or so miles. Southern California is going to need a lot of help and prayers.


Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 4:44 PM

I'm waiting with interest to see if California fares
as well as New Orleans....after it's all over....
I heard someone in Malibu say they had already rebuilt
twice because of fires!!!!

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 5:57 PM

I heard the same thing about one and two time home replacements. My insurance agent told me this ups home owners insurance for everyone, just like Katrina. I have a friend that lives in mountains near Los Gatos CA. Ten years ago, her water bills for one month were the same as mine for six. I know it's nice in the mountains but to have a house of any value with those conditions is a real risk. A lot of people I've known for over the last 30 years have moved to warmer climates, living in the Midwest has been a snap lately. A girl that worked in our office moved to Phoenix in 2001 and it has hit 0ver 100 degrees at least 100 to 120 times per year where she lives. I really hope those winds calm down and those people get a break out there. This is out of hand.


Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 6:21 PM

OMG! Please don't wish New Orleans recovery onto these poor people! At least, most should have fire insurance. I truly feel sorry for them. Fire is one thing I fear almost more than anything else. I don't have a lot of faith left, but I will say a prayer that the Santa Ana winds die down and that all the firefighters are given the strength they need to contain and beat these fires. Claudette

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 23rd Oct '07 10:03 PM

I heard they are on 16 hour shifts....every day....
Firefighters are the best people in the world!!!!

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Wed, 24th Oct '07 9:11 AM

Some in the media are bringing up the "Global Warming" excuse for the fires. Does anyone realize that the cause is probably the fact that people are building in areas that regularly have long dry periods that are easily torched by careless HUMANS!
I DID notice on TV that the people that were displaced are keeping their temporary facilities much neater than the people in N.O. did.

Gloria63  (Level: 14.1 - Posts: 1)
Wed, 24th Oct '07 9:29 AM

Personally I hope and pray the fires are all put out very soon.
I heard last night that over 900,000 people have been evacuated .The last time this many people were evacuated in huge amounts like this was the Civil War.
My thoughts and prayers are with you all!!!!!

Kimoira  (Level: 208.4 - Posts: 1191)
Wed, 24th Oct '07 9:36 AM

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 24th Oct '07 9:48 AM

These folks will probably fare better than the victims of Katrina, who were mostly poor and black. Still, politics aside, firestorms are horrifying things, and these look to be the worst in living memory. My heart goes out to those who have lost or will lose their homes and everything they own. I heard a lot of interviews yesterday with people who'd fled the fires, and was interested to note that the two things (after pets) most people said they took with them or had ready to go were their photos and their computers.

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