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Tuzilla  (Level: 146.5 - Posts: 3847)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 10:23 PM


Veterans Day

Sunday, November 11th, is Veterans Day aka Remembrance Day and Armistice Day. Take a moment to remember all who put themselves at risk to protect our freedoms.

A special SALUTE!! to all of you in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hope you can all be home, soon.

Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 10:29 PM

A SPECIAL BLESSING to all who have served or are presently serving. You make it possible for all of us to enjoy Sploofus and any of life's little pleasures we choose. For those presently in service, God keep you safe and bring you home.

Army brat

Tacogrande87  (Level: 13.4 - Posts: 24)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 10:31 PM

cool my response was deleted the first time i posted on this

Gypsylady  (Level: 149.3 - Posts: 6107)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 10:32 PM

God bless all of the soldiers, past and present, for all they have done, and keep the ones safe who are away from home and their families.


Tacogrande87  (Level: 13.4 - Posts: 24)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 10:39 PM


Chyenn  (Level: 210.7 - Posts: 1332)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 10:51 PM

like so many here, my family tree has several veterans who proudly served this country.

i am grateful for every veteran and also for their families who sacrifice so much to keep us safe.


Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 11:16 PM

Must've been a naughty typo.

Yay for the vets! I've got a family full of them. Here's to the vets, and to their families, who also sacrifice and serve.

Suzannec  (Level: 260.0 - Posts: 616)
Sat, 10th Nov '07 11:47 PM

A big Thank You to every veteran and military person out there. Because of you, I have the freedom to sit in my cluttered home and play Sploofus for hours. You deserve every happiness in the world.

Osuzannacollage  (Level: 132.1 - Posts: 1299)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 1:31 AM

A sincere thank you to all of you veterans and armed services personnel! You are greatly appreciated.


Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 3:48 AM

To all the veterans in my own family, gone and still here, to all in my extended family and to those still serving -
Thank you.

"If in some smothering dreams you too could pace...
...My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori."
- Wilfred Owen

Surreyman  (Level: 274.6 - Posts: 2776)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 5:27 AM

"We will remember them"

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 5:39 AM

Everyday, I think of and thank the guys fighting in the Mid-east. Being a four year (active duty,volunteer)Viet Nam era veteran, I wish we had the media coverage like they do these days. Imagine how different WWII, the Korean War and Viet Nam would've been handled. Anyone remember 500-1,000 casualties per week. Thanks again, guys and girls, we love you all.

Swiper  (Level: 154.6 - Posts: 875)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 7:09 AM

Praying today and everyday for those who give up their lives so that we may be safe.

Oldcougar  (Level: 229.6 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 8:04 AM

A heartfelt thank-you to all those who have served, both past & present. May the new year see an end to the madness & you all come home safe

Greyghost  (Level: 69.0 - Posts: 640)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 8:43 AM

I live in Canada and only one Grand-Dad fought in WW 1,the rest all fought in the U.S.A. One G-Dad in Marines ,other family member in Nam,etc. So i guess i get to lower two flags today. Thank god for all Vets if not for them God only knows where we would be today. May god be with them.

Ladyvol  (Level: 213.0 - Posts: 5677)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 12:54 PM

To all of our military both past and present...THANK YOU!
Being the wife, daughter and niece of a veteran I am proud of what our servicemen and women have done to keep us here at home safe and secure...So, if you can take time today to remember all of those who have served and are serving...For without them we would not have the freedoms we so cherish today...As the saying goes Freedom is not FREE!...
I love you all....

Siouxsie  (Level: 104.6 - Posts: 145)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 10:33 PM

Just returned from a convention of veterans who served in WWII in the 13th Jungle Air Force. Accompanied my dad to the convention for the sixth time. Greatest experience in the world to see these men and hear their stories, which many of them didn't begin telling until a few years ago. But so sad that each year you know that you will be seeing some of these veterans for the last time. Each year their numbers get fewer. Yet they are still amazing guys! A number of them were cutting up on the dance floor last night! Many still drive--at least one still flies--some come to the convention alone. What an amazing group! My dad at almost 92 was the older member of in attendance.

Chyenn  (Level: 210.7 - Posts: 1332)
Sun, 11th Nov '07 10:43 PM

Siouxsie, what a wonderful time to be able to share with your Father. thanks for sharing with us.

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2763)
Mon, 12th Nov '07 12:33 AM

"""Yours wasn't deleted tacogrande. The whole thread was deleted for a major typo. This is a new thread. Please repost you note. Sorry for the confusion."""

Another slap in the face for America's veterinarians.

Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Mon, 12th Nov '07 2:18 AM


1mks  (Level: 221.1 - Posts: 5930)
Mon, 12th Nov '07 7:11 AM

A giant thank you to all of our Sploofus veterans also. All veterans need to be remembered more than once a year. We need to send up a prayer for them daily and also for their families. Our soldiers serving presently should be honored today also.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 5:34 AM

Veterans Day is over, so I'm going to say it and see if anyone agrees with me....

WAR IS A DIRTY BUSINESS....and should never be allowed to happen for ANY REASON....
We encourage people to believe there is something Great and Glorious about
"Serving and Protecting the Nation" Then we throw them into turmoil and chaos and fear
for an indeterminate period....and then we bring them home and make friends with the people they used to call the enemy.
It's not only the actually Troops we harm, it's their families and all who love them.
And the people caught in the war zones, children too. We damage their lives forever!!!! Most fighting men can't talk about what happened after it is all over....because it's too horrible.... and they are not happy they were a part of it.
If we look back at any war since WW1....can we say with any certainty - what the war was about and what anyone gained from it????
Almost 3000 people died on 9/11 - but how many innocents have died and been harmed since
then???? "Vengence is mine saith the Lord"

Surreyman  (Level: 274.6 - Posts: 2776)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 5:49 AM

You're absolutely correct, of course.
And not many would disagree that it would be wonderful if that view could prevail in practice.
But it don't, 'cos Man is so fallible.
So it happens.
Rightly or wrongly, so many have given.
So I'm the first up there to remember on November 11.
Doesn't mean I'm glorifying war at all, believe me.

Maurlin  (Level: 221.5 - Posts: 2718)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 6:09 AM

My view is summed up in the poem Larefamiliaris quoted, which is a NOT a patriotic poem, but rather a condemnation of the glorification of war and the waste of innocent lives. The author, Wilfred Owen, was a poet and WWI soldier who was killed in action one week before the Armistice was signed. The last line of his poem reads:

"If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori."

Oldcougar  (Level: 229.6 - Posts: 1935)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 6:35 AM

Speaking of Nov 11, or Remembrance Day as the British & the colonies call it, I was sorta ticked that the Veterans Day WP, was solely American. I realize the WP was named Veterans Day but it is celebrated in many countries, under several names. Malta calls it Poppy Day.

I support the veterans, but I abhor war. The veterans of Canada actively campaigned against Canada joining in the latest one, alas to deaf ears. All wars are fought over profits, very little of which, ever comes, to those brave young souls that fight them

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 7:05 AM

When I read that latin quote - that was what finally made
me say what I have kept quietly in my mind for 65 years.
I used to work at a company where we were ordered to stand to
attention in silence for two minutes at 11AM on Nov.11th.
I was so upset after the first time, when I was taken by
surprise.....used to pretend every year after that, I was
on the phone to a customer.

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 8:53 AM

"Dulce et Decorum Est" and "Anthem for Doomed Youth" were both written by Owen whilst in convalesence at Craiglockhart Hospital - a mile or so west of where I'm sitting.
There he met Siegfried Sassoon, another eminent war poet.
Sassoon returned to the front where he was shot (in the head!) by accident by one of his own men. He survived.
Owen returned to the front and was killed in action on November 4th 1918 - exactly a week before the guns fell silent.
Nothing I can say about war betters Owen's own words:

Anthem for Doomed Youth
What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?
-- Only the monstrous anger of the guns.
Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle
Can patter out their hasty orisons.
No mockeries now for them; no prayers nor bells;
Nor any voice of mourning save the choirs, --
The shrill, demented choirs of wailing shells;
And bugles calling for them from sad shires.
What candles may be held to speed them all?
Not in the hands of boys but in their eyes
Shall shine the holy glimmers of goodbyes.
The pallor of girls' brows shall be their pall;
Their flowers the tenderness of patient minds,
And each slow dusk a drawing-down of blinds.

Written September-October 1917

Wilfred Owen (1893-1918)

Siouxsie  (Level: 104.6 - Posts: 145)
Tue, 13th Nov '07 9:46 AM

Both poems by Owen--masterpieces. I honor my father and what his generation sacrificed--but in my lifetime I've not seen a cause noble enough for me to sacrifice my son or one of my daughters--I'd send them to Canada in a heartbeat.

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