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Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:06 PM


What happens if you strongly disagree with an editor? What would you do?

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.5 - Posts: 3845)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:13 PM

That probably depends on the disagreement. What kind of issue is it?

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:22 PM

This is what they sent me after my corrections:
(my description)- is ungrammatical.
(my description)-and has an extra space.
(my description)-is ungrammatical

As per Microsoft word, Wikipeda, friends, and more, my grammar is fine for a definition or a description. They also told me to clean it up and it that was not as nice as they have been before. They also spelled ungrammatical incorrectly. Do they use a spell checker?

I am a little upset for the first time

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:26 PM

This is after a 28 quiz wait, then a 40 quiz wait, and now 18. I have sent a smilar quiz. I don't understand why this is a problem now. I think He/She dosn't like me.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:32 PM

There is a category on Player Support where you can submit a ticket if you have a disagreement with an editor-what will happen? haven't a clue-Linda

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:54 PM

I don't know how bad the problem is yet but i will try that. Thank you.

Chyenn  (Level: 210.7 - Posts: 1332)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:54 PM

please don't take it personally. the editors are members just like you and me. they all 'volunteer' to edit 100's of quizzes a week. They are human and they aren't immune to making mistakes but those i've dealt with have always been fair.

Please remember that they have families, jobs, real lives and other responsibilities too.

if you can document your position on the issue from a reliable source then submit that information and ask that they reconsider.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Tue, 20th Nov '07 3:59 PM

First and foremost, let me say that I did not edit the quiz in question, nor have I seen it, nor do I have any comments on the validity of my fellow editor's requests.

That said, I am saddened that you see your relationship with the editors as a confrontational one, with you trying to get your quizzes past them, and them trying to find fault in your quiz. The editors' role is to assist in the maintenance of the site by, among other things, making sure that submitted quizzes are in accordance with the SQAG and the Sploofus level of quality it mandates. When we send back a quiz, we are working with you to make your quiz better. And not just for SQAG compliance. I think I can speak for every editor here when I say I believe that the act of our returning quizzes before launching has resulted in a gain of numerous rating points on them for you, the authors. Nothing for us, but more work.

So if you and an editor differ on what needs to be corrected on a quiz, fine. Even we editors don't see completely eye to eye on our interpretations of the SQAG. Just remember we're not attacking or punishing you. We are working with you to ensure that your quiz is Sploofus-ready.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 8:06 PM

Well...shoot...I think the appropriate forum for disputes with the editors is to have an "Ultimate Fighting" showdown. Winner take all...loser (well we all know what happens to the losers of ultimate fighting).

That being said...can I fight Sicko? Dunno if he's an editor, but he really pisses me off.

My 2 cents.

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2763)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 8:31 PM

Come on! Everybody! Atica! Atica! Atica! Atica! ATICA ATICA!

Mindmonkey  (Level: 280.4 - Posts: 295)
Tue, 20th Nov '07 11:16 PM

Most of my interactions with the editors have been very good--with a couple of exceptions. I edited a journal for 20 years (edited and copy read literally thousands of articles, etc.) and I can say that the best way to not have arguments is to have one standard style book that every editor always uses. No exceptions. The times I've been driven over the edge are when an editor seems to be making up an arbitrary style and is imposing it on my quiz.

My second recommendation is to give quiz writers the ability to email back to the editors directly when there is a problem. The lack of communication on those occasions is frustrating.

Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5425)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 2:45 AM

I haven't written many quizzes, but I've had 2 sent back, both for very good reasons, which were explained to me. I was grateful for both corrections, the one especially was the wording of the answers, which could have proven quite troublesome as people took my quiz.

That's not to say maybe the editor who read yours had read several others where the writers were making mistakes they should have caught -- misspelled or incorrect words or incorrect punctuation, and he/she didn't explain quite as thoroughly as you might have liked.

I read numerous stories a day for a daily newspaper, and I admit that after the third or fourth time a reporter misspells the name of a prominent resident or the name for a local celebration, for instance, I'm probably not as tactful as I should be when I fire off a correction.

Also, I would suggest not trying to "whip out" a quiz. Even though I've worked in newspapers for years, I take the time to read and reread my quizzes before I launch them .. and I've still had changes to make in two.

Your best bet may be to use the player support tickets to get appropriate responses quicker than all of us trying to second guess what the editor meant.

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 6:03 AM

After writing 100 quizzes, I quit !! I got tired of hearing "by definition" or "interpretation". This also applies to challenging TQOTD's. Most of us who write quizzes want to have a little fun and competition, not become Nobel Prize winners. I think it is nice that Sploofus has volunteers to keep the site going, some are too critical. Since mid October, I have lost over 50 position places because of one "by definition" sports question. I have been called a whiner and crybaby regarding this, but I am "RIGHT". Maybe there should be an Open Chat Forum just for those of us who challenge or complain, I'd be a regular. One last thing, the cute American or British word "niggardly" is popping up a ittle too much for me. If writers like that word, they are invited to come to my home and they can meet my wonderful neighbors.

Baggiob  (Level: 143.2 - Posts: 888)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 6:38 AM

Papermanbill I am sure your neighbours would not mind if they knew the truth about the word niggardly as it has absolutely nothing to do with the word you think it does.
In fact, the adjective niggardly to mean miserly or stingy was formed in the 16th century from the word niggard.
Although the history of the word can be traced back to the Wycliffe Bible of 1384 where it was spelled nygard.
And even before that it can be found as nigon.
It is believed that the word has been borrowed from a Scandinavian source because of the numerous related words in several Germanic languages. For example, the Old Norse word hnogger which means stingy.
So it has nothing to do with the n word, which comes via the French word negre from the Spanish word negro, which ultimately came from the Ltain word niger, meaning black

Tuzilla  (Level: 146.5 - Posts: 3845)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 8:09 AM

You can also study the entomology of the word "Niger" as in Niger River. It is in a region of Africa that was heavily involved in the slave trade. It is very possibly the root of the word used as the racial slur, while niggaredly is of a completely unassociated creation, and unfortunately resembles the slur, thus the interest.

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 8:19 AM

Thank you all for your help. I am going to try to summit my quiz again because the editor was nice enough to explain his/her self to me. I do think we should have some communications with the editor's. What can we do about this?

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 8:34 AM

P.S. was not dumping on and editor or editors, the issue with my quiz kept changing and therefore felt attached. I must have been have a bad day. I still think the editor's are doing a good job.

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 9:20 AM

Since I can not e-mail you back; THANK YOU, to the editor of my last quiz. Sorry for the disagreement. Best wishes and happy holidays to all!

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 9:34 AM

Gotta love a happy ending!

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2763)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 9:51 AM


Maybe you need to move away from ignorant morons.

Back to work...

Atica! Atica! Atica! Atica!

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:13 AM

Can you believe after all the changes I did with the editor's help my quiz is now out and someone asked me if I was drinking when I wrote this quiz. I can't win. I think I have to start drinking after this quiz. Hey editor would you like to have a martini after work.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3640)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:42 AM

I would like to take this opportunity to invite everyone to the free beer room that just reopened.

Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:48 AM

What is that?

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:50 AM

Looks good to me, Cristina. It's carrying an 8+ average so how bad can it be? I've got quizzes I spent a month on and they're not rated that high, so you're doing fine.

Lodi, got any Corona in the cooler?
Made the white wine spritzer mistake last night. Ow.

Gypsylady  (Level: 149.2 - Posts: 6103)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:52 AM

I remember that room, Lodi! Where's the sign and how do we get there?


Cristinap  (Level: 31.4 - Posts: 133)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:53 AM

Thank you smoke20.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2812)
Wed, 21st Nov '07 10:56 AM

Aw, you can call me Smoke.

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