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Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Fri, 7th Dec '07 12:50 PM


I will probably misspell words or chose the wrong one but I am just curious about a couple of things. Why is it that no implicit rule is stated about folks promoting or not promoting their own quizzes and the site lets new folks be villified for doing just that? In fact there is a post from "The Boss" encouraging folks to do that, but no word to lay off off folks when they unkowingly do that. Do not consider myself innately kind but have pmed folks warning them against this practice. Also folks should know if they are relatively new and not impervious to unkind comments and dare to oppose or comment on posts made by the current "in" group or yes, "clique" on "Salty Dog", they will also experience wrath on their heads. You can say they "asked fior it" like the old defense against rape. I have been here quite some time under one name or another and like Rocco do not ever hope to win a WR or WM. I write quizzes-that's what I do. I know some recent threads have been centered on the more purient. That does not offend me-what does is the post by Spacecat in the "Newbie" forum with replies not being answered nor my repeated question about how one can contact the site if unable to login. I would not want to be you, Justin, and have to deal with te discontent on your game right now. Quit once-won't do it again but cannot say I am pleased by "group pats" and unanwered questions-thanks-Linda (NOTE: HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Fri, 7th Dec '07 8:35 PM

Not quite sure what the message is here Linda...


Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 3:47 AM

Not certain of what she's saying here chick? I'll take a stab at it:

#1) A Question: Why are players vilified when they promote their own quizzes (by posting in the BBS I'm assuming) even though there are no explicit rules against this and Justin has given his OK?

#2)A Warning, maybe a Question as well?: New people should know that if they dare to oppose the "in" group or the "clique" in the Salty Dog, that they will be subject to anger and insults. Maybe she also wants to know why this is so, not sure.

#3)Two Questions: She is upset that her and Spacecat's questions have gone unanswered. In the newbies forum, Spacecat wants to know whether the trivia questions in a showdown include a player's blocked category. Taking a look at it, he's recieved answers but nothing definitive. (Maybe an Editor or someone who knows for certain needs to chime in on this one). Second, she has recieved no answer to her repeated question of how to contact the site if she is unable to login.

Since I don't pay enough attention, I am unable to address these issues, and will leave them to someone else. Hope that helps, let me know if I'm wrong Linda!

Papajensai  (Level: 190.2 - Posts: 1025)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 4:15 AM

The only "vilification" I've seen regarding self-promotion has occurred when it was apparent that someone had created extra Sploofus memberships and then used those user names to post messages praising their quizzes. Some people are turned off by self-promotional spam-like PMs as well. Everyone who makes the effort to write a quiz thinks it's good and wants everyone to take it, but if everyone posts a message about every quiz they write, there won't be any place for the sincere appreciative recommendation of one player for the work of another. If everything is emphasized, nothing is emphasized. This is just my take on it, YMMV.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 4:42 AM

I agree with Rjenson on that one, if people start doing that everyone (me included) will do it, and I think I would personally quit reading areas like the hit list and newbies corner where it happens alot. I can already see what new quizzes are out, not sure I need that kind of help. However, I have gotten the impression that some people have perhaps been a little short-tempered about it (my version of "villified"), and perhaps that could change.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 6:13 AM

Syoutyoungladd, you have pretty much covered my main points. Folk do not need a separate account to put their own quizzes on the "Ht List" as some new people were doing because they were unaware of the consequences. I also am opposed to and"dislike hat practice.Just because there is no stated rule doesn't mean they should be "nailed to the cross"Makes me ill at warm welcomes in the "hello" posts and then treat Newbies like sh-- it the forums like "Salty Dog". I am one to stand back a bit in new situations but some folks aren't. My error is being embarrassed for them and ticked off at unkind folks- does not make it a bit enticing for folks to go Gold or Platinum-just my thoughts-Linda

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 7:02 AM

I agree with Rjenson and Heidi. The one guy that pats himself on the back so often that he has surely dislocated his shoulder, just has to realize that this site may not be all about him. I take Rjenson's theory one step further in that editors applaud their own decisions under their player id's. I am so proud that some one else sees it. Once again you fool no one. One should be either and editor or a player.

The "Clique" does far more damage to this site than they realize or even care about. This elitism in no way enhances this lovley island.

Heidi thanks for being straight forward.

Kaufman  (Level: 254.1 - Posts: 3936)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 9:40 AM

When you promote your own quizzes, you by nature have an ulterior motive, and a rosy view of your quiz whether or not it is justified. When you laud the quiz of a stranger, the only reason you could possibly be doint that is because the quiz touched you in a special way. It carries far more weight. Vilify may be too harsh a word, but I'll give far more credence to someone who points out the good work of others than someone who trumpets their own.

As for the showdown question. maybe the reason nobody answered Spacecat is because nobody knows. I'd have no idea myself. I don't exempt any category. A lot of people don't do showdowns. So how would we recognize anything that gives us anything we could contribute to that discussion? The fact that no editor's answered that may simply mean that THEY have no idea either. This may just be a little thing Justin programmed into the system one way or another, and you'd have to look at the source code to know the true answer.

If you're unable to log in, if you have a friend who sploofs, let them know, and ask them to drop in a support ticket on yor behalf.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 9:56 AM


Could not agree with you more. Some time ago months went by with nothing listed on the "Hit List". If was when "Newbies"started posting their own quizzes that ativity returned so maybe it was a negative plus. Myself I will not take quizzes of those who "toot their own horn" either on the list or by messaging me but do try to advise them in private of the consequences of doing that. I have found the "Hit List" most helpful when promoted by others in ensuring that I do not miss a quiz i might otherwise have taken-Linda

Siouxsie  (Level: 104.6 - Posts: 145)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 12:11 PM

I, on the other hand, appreciate it when players let me know that they have written new quizzes on topics that they know interest me. Similarly, when I compliment a player's quiz, I like it if they recommend one of their other quizzes. I take only a tiny percentage of quizzes on this site because I don't watch TV and am not a music fanatic or a sports nut. So I am happy to know when there has been a new quiz on literature, classic movies, art, etc.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 12:16 PM

I have a genre of quizzes which I prefer as well, but if they all got posted in the Salty Dog every time one was released, it would be a mess. I figure I know when a new quiz is released in the category I like because when I look at the quizzes category, there is a big yellow tag next to it that says "NEW."

I haven't used the subscribe to future quizzes feature. If you have a favorite author and use this, does it notify you when a new quiz is released by them?

Chyenn  (Level: 200.8 - Posts: 1332)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 12:26 PM

Lodi, i use that feature, it lists the last 5 quizzes authored.

no, i am not notified and i forget to check it....

Chyenn  (Level: 200.8 - Posts: 1332)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 12:29 PM

when you are at the login at there is a link beside the button that says:

[Lost login info?]

that link takes you to a page that says:

Can't remember your username or password?

Enter your e-mail address below to have your login information sent to you: (there is a box below that)

i entered my own email address and within a few seconds was alerted that i had mail from sploofus.

but i wondered what i would do if there were a quirk in the system and my password didn't work.....

the other day while snooping around i found a snail mail address for sploofua via a link from the home page about this being a family friendly site.

here it is:

**** Sploofus Corp. on MichiganBusiness.US!

Justin Morton
PO Box 4157
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
Tel No: ( 517 ) 918-3747
Joined: 10/08/2007****

here's the link --

also, on the Michigan business site there is a link for email to Sploofus, Inc directly.

hope this helps.


Siouxsie  (Level: 104.6 - Posts: 145)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 12:29 PM

I don't think quiz authors should tout their own quizzes on the BBs. I was responding to the part of Heidi's message where she said she didn't like being PMed about new quizzes. I don't mind PMs. Yes, new quizzes are tagged nicely, but we travel and occasionally I will be away from a computer for a week or even two, so I miss some quizzes. Besides, I think it is creates kind of a friendly dialogue among like-minded people, which is a big part of what Sploofus is all about. Remember that revelation that you had at some point in your life--hey, there are people out there like me! What a great feeling that is and was.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 12:35 PM

I certainly agree with you Siouxsie. Sorry, I thought you meant BBS. And wholeheartedly agree with your statement of finding a place where there are others like you. I once likened it to Cheers, but that's when Martin (Lare) decided to start calling me Norm.

Salzypat  (Level: 154.4 - Posts: 5295)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 1:46 PM

I keep seeing all these references to the "clique" on the chat. All I want to know is: Am I in or out?

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 2:01 PM

If you're buying, you're in. HEY EVERYBODY, BEERS ON SALZYPAT!

I would like to say that recently a new player was posting in the salty dog every time they had a quiz released and I tried to tell them that the salty dog wasn't the best forum for that - go to hit list, due to the fact that if everyone on sploofus posted in the salty dog when they had a quiz released, that's all that would be in there. Finally took an editor pointing them in the right direction but right after that is when the bully & the mean people accusations started.

But I'm with Heidi & Ken (and others). If someone starts becoming a nuisance with the self promotion, I find it a turn off and I will most likely not take their quizzes. I guess you can liken it to going out with a bunch of friends, meeting a new guy that might interest you, but he spends the evening bragging about himself. Its a turn off. But a lot of people are willing to take that risk and if that's what they want - more power to them. My opinion only affects me.

Salzypat  (Level: 154.4 - Posts: 5295)
Sat, 8th Dec '07 11:55 PM

Gosh, Lodi, is that all it takes to be "in" ... c'mon, belly up to the bar, boys and girls. The next 2 rounds are on me!

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 9th Dec '07 12:24 AM

Uh oh, 2 rounds? You know if I get 2 beers in me, I'll get all sarcastic and witty.

Siouxsie  (Level: 104.6 - Posts: 145)
Sun, 9th Dec '07 8:58 AM

And if I get two beers in me I get all. . . never mind. . .

Oldcougar  (Level: 217.3 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 9th Dec '07 9:13 AM

Ode to Lodi

or dear, whichever you are,
We you, We you, We you

At least we do if Pat's buying

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