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iautah
Iautah  (Level: 213.6 - Posts: 91)
Sat, 29th Dec '07 11:30 PM

WORDPUZZLE TIMES

Up until the middle of this year, I could sometimes score in the top 20 on WordPuzzles. No longer. I see that people are taking longer and longer to do WordPuzzles. On the current WordPuzzle, as I write this, 14 of the top 20 players took over 1,000 minutes. I don't believe that I have ever taken over 1,000 minutes on a WordPuzzle. Is this evidence of excessive googling?

Iautah

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sat, 29th Dec '07 11:41 PM

I don't see how. Besides, so what? People google, that's a given.

Sure those aren't seconds? A thousand minutes is like 17 hours. Of course, math is not my strength.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sat, 29th Dec '07 11:50 PM


hmmmm...this fascinating point has never been debated. I await an education with bated breath....

winddancer41
Winddancer41  (Level: 63.3 - Posts: 1113)
Sat, 29th Dec '07 11:52 PM

I think you need to go back and reread the time they are seconds.

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 220.4 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 1:53 AM

Perhaps the long times are because many of the word puzzles are like short stories. I don't type very well & my eyes are often bleary when I do the WP's, then there's my slow brain to contend with, as well. I've cost myself many a top 10 finish with my turtle times. My spelling skills often send me to the dictionary or for a quick goggle. I'm sure others have some of my afflictions. Meanwhile, I'll just plod along & hope for the odd light to go on

stone
Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 1:59 AM

Somebody invariably phones while I word puzzle, or the doorbell rings. Or, I get up to get a drink and forget what I was doing. One time I did the #4 puzzle and thought I was finished. S**t happens. I don't think anyone has to google to figure that one out.

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 220.4 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 2:03 AM

I forgot those reasons, Claudette Not to mention the inevitable potty break

iautah
Iautah  (Level: 213.6 - Posts: 91)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 7:27 AM

I did mean seconds not minutes.

I am not trying to accuse anyone of anything. I am just wondering why a year and a half ago, a time over 1,000 seconds was rare, whereas now times over 1,000 seconds are quite common, and usually account for over half of the times of the top 20 players. Have people deliberately greatly slowed down their play in order to examine possible letter plays in great detail?

Iautah

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 7:48 AM

Not knowing anything about wp's before feb 2007 - I don't know how much more complicated they were - like with the 2007 goodbyes (which I enjoyed) - I definitely googled for spelling on some names - while I like being higher in the list - I enjoy more keeping my 5000 points

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 2:39 PM

I recall some people a year ago often being high on the list, and close to an hour (3600 seconds) with alarming frequency. At least one of them claimed to spend much of the time slowly cogitating, so as to figure it out with minimal letters guessed. I have no idea if that explanation was true, but long times are not a complete novelty.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 2:44 PM

I, frankly, have better things to do. And as soon as I'm done with a WP, I scan the group to see if anyone did it faster than I did. I no longer worry about my 5000 pts, or my place in the line. Just how fast I can do it.

I'm different. So what?

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 2:48 PM


I have long times because I research on google.

so....in your hat.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 3:08 PM

Wow, Jude47 really cleaned up for time with 284 seconds on the "New" WP. Nice job!

iautah
Iautah  (Level: 213.6 - Posts: 91)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 3:11 PM

Way to go Jude!

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 3:26 PM


How about a separate leader board for fastest times with a score of 5,000 ?

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 3:26 PM

Me, I'm old. I like a little nap in the middle.

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.6 - Posts: 1391)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 3:51 PM

Steve is right, the times are longer. I am about the same ... very long because I do research. However, I suspect cheaters were quite fast. I hope cheaters have been weaned, leaving the top spots for slow ploding thorough thinkers that care about their score.

I will say this, I think WordPuzzles are a great family activity. Wheneverr my grandchildren and I can get on a computer together, usually weekends ... well, we slow down but have more fun.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 3:53 PM

Did you just call me a cheater?

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:07 PM


Allena uses outside third party help -- Ban her! Ban her !!!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:14 PM

him

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.2 - Posts: 1025)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:17 PM

He also uses a pyramidal shape to converge the cosmic impulses of the universe into his brain.

Well, just LOOK at his AVATAR!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:20 PM

(Thumbs through Sploofus User Manual to see if using a pyramidal shape to converge the cosmic impulses of the universe into your brain is considered cheating).

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:21 PM

I checked. Only in months without the letter "R"

digs
Digs  (Level: 116.6 - Posts: 812)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:22 PM

Allena, I like that description...."slow plodding thorough thinkers", it fits me to a tee!! And unless Justin puts a time limit on WPs I will stay that way.

lettermanfan1
Lettermanfan1  (Level: 88.3 - Posts: 486)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 4:23 PM

Once again I must state the opinion that googling or any other research is cheating. I'm with Eesus....just do it!
Leah

chyenn
Chyenn  (Level: 202.6 - Posts: 1332)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 5:16 PM

>snipped from above "Is this evidence of excessive googling?"

it's only 'excessive' if you see an interesting link, go off on a tangent, and temporarily abandon your original search!

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 5:35 PM


To all those that think Googling is cheating:

I don't care what you think.

If it is 6 billion earthlings versus me, I'm going to say I enjoy the fun of the internet search and research rather than pumping 24 letters in to find out there is a mountain in New South Wales called zhitchyswalthwnt.

Again, the problem lies not in the times, but in the method of the resulting standings. For those who want it to be a race, there should be a second scoreboard by times, not moves.

Perhaps with a 30 second penalty for missed letters and a 90 second penalty for bad guesses.

Is someone writing this down?

koota
Koota  (Level: 181.9 - Posts: 2104)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 5:38 PM

I have no hope of ever being in the top 10, so I typically go through the puzzle pretty quickly guessing letters with abandon. Of course, I often finish #150 too ... Oh well.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 5:44 PM

I didn't say I never used the internet during a WP. I'm just saying that most of the time, I just want it over with as quickly as possible. It doesn't matter to me what other people do because I'm not in it for the top ten standing. But it is a nice breakup when the only other things there are to do are either quizzes or the WR/WM.

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 193.2 - Posts: 1025)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 6:05 PM

I like Smaug's ideas a lot. When I began playing here I assumed that googling would be cheating, which I still think it probably is for quizzes. But for WP's, since there's no way to detect or prevent it, and it's not intrinsically dishonest in itself (unless you deny doing it when you really are), then having several ways of reporting results would allow each to do as he likes with his own goals and interests in mind without any reason for anyone to take or give offense about it.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.0 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:17 PM

Don't believe everything you read on Wiki. Zhitchyswalthwnt is actually over the border in Victoria.

kimoira
Kimoira  (Level: 201.9 - Posts: 1190)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:22 PM

and you forgot the extra z which of course will cost you.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 10:56 PM

There is actually a variation spelling of Zhit chyswal thwnt in certain regions. First "w" is silent.

I should have noticed it, but I was used to the natives pronouncing it with those "clicking" noises. Plus my native porter had a lisp.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:03 PM

Real handicap, a lisp in a clicking language.

Messy, too.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:19 PM

Get one of those guys drunk and you can't understand a damn thing.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:21 PM

But give them a hit of helium and it's a freakin' scream.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 12:36 AM


Mine liked to eat Ritz crackers.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 1:45 AM

Thanks for the BELLLLY LAFFFF folks....
Needed that!!!!
BTW....LOVED the "algebra" Puzzle tonight.
Thanks to Sploofizzy (?)


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