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sargon
Sargon  (Level: 112.0 - Posts: 1256)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:03 PM

WHO CAN POST TO FORUMS

When the message boards were opened up to non paying members it was stated that their first three posts would put in the newbie area. In addition a new gold forum would be added that would be available for gold and platinum members.

If these policies aren't going to be put in place maybe only players that are level three and above should be able to post messages. That would at least slow down the people that open accounts so they can post disruptive messages.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:11 PM

Yes, I did notice that some of the new players that posted in that thread, it was their 1st - 3rd posts. What's up with that?

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:19 PM


Avoiding jerks is nice if it doesn't smoosh the new blood that feeds a community. Then the terrorists win.

I don't know if they have it here, but with the sites I own there is a simple way to block recidivist jerks' IPs. That knocks down 80 percent of trolls. If someone gets a spoofer....well, there are ways to deal with that.

Usually it isn't the best business model to keep new members to much at an insulting arms length...you want to draw them into the community and message boards are the best way.



eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:33 PM

That's fine. Just shouldn't be stated that they will only be allowed post in a certain section and then not enforce it. I agree with non-paying players being able to post. But I think there needs to be an interim where they post to a certain area. That way, they can post if they are interested, but it buffers those players who create accounts just for the sake of trolling. With a higher level of player posting (the paid area), it would give the non-paying members incentive to upgrade their accounts if they were interested in participating in those forums.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 9:37 PM

After several weeks of this experiment, I'm not as egalitarian as once I was. I think freebies should have the run of the Newbies board and possibly another one or two, but definitely NOT be able to post to Salty Dog or the Hit List. If they want that privilege they should get off 15 bucks and move on up.



smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 10:52 PM


At sites where content is an important contribution, some of them allow certain upgrades/access after some content is submitted....in Sploofus like 5 quizzes or something, and by the time someone figures out the website and contributes that much they are unlikely to be a total jerk. And it is a nice for the people who may not be able to afford the $$.

This is common in, for instance, sites that specialize in reviews of resorts or restaurants or hookers.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:05 PM

'Cept there's that saying about why buy the cow when you get the milk for free, or why buy the milk if you get the cow for free, or something like that. The whole point is to give people a taste of the site and hope that they want more privileges and buy in. For me, upgrading to gold (because we didn't have platinum back then) was because:

1) I wanted to do the 2 WP a day rather than the 1 per week I think I got as a non-paying member;
2) I wanted more than the 2 WRs per hour I got as a non-paying member; and
3) I wanted to post in the forums, which I couldn't do as a non-paying member
4) I wanted to get rid of the ads that showed up all over the screens

We didn't have the shouts back then, but I definitely would have wanted to participate in that as well.

So I agree with Smoke. If Justin wants them to be able to post, they should have the Newbie area. But as a paying member who was guaranteed no spam or ads in return for my upgrade, I would like that to include no trolls as well.

And as an added note, I have a sister on here that is a non-paying member. God help you all if she ever figures out she can post in the forums.

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:09 PM

I've often wondered what I'd do if my sister showed up here.

Bullets feature in most scenarios.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:10 PM


Frankly, I always though cows should just be happy someone is even mildly interested.



eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:14 PM

Moo.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:38 PM

Think we had this discussion in the shout Smokey.

Burma Shave.

Me

larrybus
Larrybus  (Level: 307.2 - Posts: 383)
Sun, 30th Dec '07 11:58 PM

Those non-paying members like Buzzybee who got some Sploofusers upset recently were very likely Gillian using up a few of her multiple, until then still undetected, WP cheating accounts. That's my guess from the user names (Buzzybee, Andiepan, Garrie and Tommyd) and the fact that the accounts were all terminated very swiftly.

Gillian was very fond of "y" or "ie" in the middle and/or the end of her user names.
She and many of her extra accounts were terminated recently, but I wouldn't be surprised to see her doing the same disruptive thing again in the future. She's probably got more than a few accounts left.




chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 12:24 AM

Geesus...had to look that word up "egalitarian"...it has too many syaabllesss for me.

Onto the topic at hand. I really adore the infusion of new blood. Makes life interesting, that being said, there has to be a filter. If one can just join up and post some inane crap, that I am opposed to. Someone wants to come on in and join the fun without innundating the board with useless nonsense, COME JOIN the banter.

Life is fun with more involved.

Me.

eileeny
Eileeny  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 240)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 1:16 AM

Oh would i like to meet your sis Lori


eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 1:32 AM

Which one? I'm the youngest of 7. (6 girls and 1 boy).

If you got us all on Sploofus, I guarantee the server would splode. They are all just like me.

But I don't want them posting on here because then they would tell stupid stories about me. Being the youngest, I was always picked on. Poor me. Pity anyone? Anybody?

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 1:42 AM

OMG...the LAST thing we need here is more Lodi. Please don't invite the whole fam damily.

Me.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 1:46 AM

You think I want them on here, talking about my big 80's hair, the time I pooped my diaper and it went down into my shoe and squished between my toes (I think they made that up), and other embarrassing things? Hell no!

lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 3:12 AM

I hear ya Lodi.. I'm the youngest of 7 as well.. 5 boys first, then 2 girls... my oldest brother is a member here but hasn't posted anything yet(phew!). There's a pic of 6 of us on my profile (one wasn't available)

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 7:08 AM

Back to Saragon's original post. I believe that the originl policies which we were told would be set in place should be just tha SET IN PLACE. There is very little reason for anyone to pay for Platinum especially other than to support the site-think they ought to be givn a ittle extra very soon. Doesn't mean that paying members don't cause trouble, hurt oter people's feelings and are just simply a pain in the a-- at least they pay to be an occasional butt head-Linda

sargon
Sargon  (Level: 112.0 - Posts: 1256)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 8:54 AM

I doubt if putting some restrictions on forum contributions would stunt the growth of sploofus. The site experienced the most growth before the forums were opened up.





allena
Allena  (Level: 255.3 - Posts: 1390)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 10:00 AM

Newby's initiation. I totally agree with the idea that there should be some hoops for new memberss to achieeve besides the meaningless (so far) ranking system and the number of WP's er hour.

1) Write five quizzess that were successfuly launched before you can rate a quiz.
2) Do Several (no idea how many is enough) WP's before you can chat on the WP's
3) Do at least five of the big five before you can speak on BBS - Salty Dog, Hit list and maybe responses to directors.

New players have the support notes to directors. They can keep a pretty good list of those trying to be helpful or those trying to be disruptive.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 10:02 AM

There are always options with bbs's - none of which I think would be good for a board like sploofus really - not enough manpower and money to monitor posts and "approve" them before hand like I set up for some of my customers.

The only real way is to catch the horse after it's out of the barn and if continued freebies create new accounts to stir up garbage - to block the ip's

I think we all tend to jump and defend both sploofus and the players - and then we give them just what they want.

The only real option I think would be for those of us to sit on our hands when something like this happens (like the buzzybee thing) and just not respond - the editors or just will see it at some point, either by monitoring as they do - or having it reported - and I know the hardest thing for any of us to do is ignore a buzzing bee - our instinct is to swat at it - I know I've started replies before and then forced myself to delete and move on - and then sometimes the urge is just too much to resist - the posts like that are designed to evoke a response - and of course, they can't die at first sting - they have to be sploofucated - just depends on how we respond (or don't respond) as to how much gets stirred up before they are.



smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 11:31 AM

An ignore function on BBS and shout would solve some of this. If you don't like a user just block their messsages from your view.

Of course, death to Smaug, but what are you going to do?

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 11:49 AM

Not sure how the block function would work but am quite sure the few who have shown up lately would not have their feelings even dented if one or 2 folks blocked them-seems they themselves need to be blocked and Allen's and Saragons suggetions seem like a very good place to start-Linda

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 1:53 PM

an ignore/block for shout & pm's would be great - I used to play pogo all the time for my sanity break before I found sploofus - and the mute was great for those really irritating players - and trust me there are alot there - plus it has a report spam & bock sender for pm's --

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.3 - Posts: 1390)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 2:12 PM

Thank you Linda.

If you think about rank in most services, first you have to earn it. If you abuse it, you can lose it. Image all the votes to bust Buzz back to private. Clearly court martial is needed for Gillian. I think that being able to re-enlist is fine ... kind of like coming back from jail like Martha Stewart, Johnny Cash or many others. However, coming back like Gillian should require her to get a new computer. Cheating in the Justin system at Sploofus is like premeditated murder in the justice system.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 2:51 PM


Heidi...block means you can't see their posts. After that, who cares?

baggiob
Baggiob  (Level: 142.7 - Posts: 888)
Mon, 31st Dec '07 2:56 PM

One of the things I really do not understand about the whole Gillian thing is the number of quizzes she wrote, which she would probably get a lot more points from than cheating at word rounds or matches or word puzzles. very strange


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