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Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 12:48 PM


My son had a quiz rejected for "Fill in the Blank" questions. No big deal, easy fix, already resubmitted.

But I guess I have two questions.

1. why are FITBs not acceptable? Seems like no big deal to me.

2. seems to me that his questions were not actually FITBs, but were in this colon format:

"This 11 time all star player's nickname was:" (list)

Anyway, just curious....

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 12:56 PM

This was a MAJOR issue when they were eliminated-guess one editor quit over it. As you said they are still here if one alters the form of the question a bit so not sure what was accomplished except a majotr row!!!

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 1:07 PM

I wasn't in on the FITB controversy - not sure why. I think there are some cases when FITB is absolutely appropriate. Say, music lyrics, for example.

So hold on __________, and don't let go. If you cling too tightly, you're going to lose control.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Tue, 1st Jan '08 1:17 PM

At one point Justin was planning to sell Sploofus questions to raise revenue and FITBs were not an acceptable format for that purpose.

Bottom line is that Justin prefers questions that are actual questions. And just because there is no actual 'blank', the example Smaug gives is still of the FITB variety.

Editors debated the song lyric issue quite extensively, and many of us felt that blanks are okay in some questions, but Justin's policy is that that style of quiz is too simplistic for his vision of what Sploofus could and should be.

In addition, some players were cranking out quizzes by the hundreds for the FITB category that presented very little "trivia challenge", so Justin simply axed the whole thing.

All of this was discussed extensively elsewhere on these message boards so I am not saying anything new here, but if I have expressed my own opinions instead of Justin's or the other editors, I know they will chime in to set us all straight

Sblv  (Level: 195.4 - Posts: 337)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 2:24 PM

Is KER-BLUNK linked to The Sploofus2.0 or would it come independently?

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 2:30 PM

So what would be the acceptable way to pose the lyrics question above, without making it sound completely wrong? (For future reference and for those who would like to make a similar style quiz.)

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 2:37 PM


Good answer.

You had me at "format to sell"....

Gypsylady  (Level: 148.2 - Posts: 6097)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 2:38 PM

I believe, Simon, that Ker-Blunk was supposed to come out with Beta 2.0.


Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 2:45 PM

Could be totally wrong so don't jump down my throat but believe that when Ker-Blunk was briefly explained, we were told those quizzes would not be included in the same category as others-don't believe it was actually stated but an assumption could be made that they would be worth less-thus appeaing to a point those bitter about FITB being eliminated-Linda

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 3:01 PM


Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 3:15 PM

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Tue, 1st Jan '08 6:49 PM

Ker-Blunk is a new, independent game that is part of the 2.0 package. It will be open for players to author, editors to edit, and then everyone to play, just like quizzes. It will hopefully satisfy everyone's FITB fix! That's all I really know about it. There is also a crossword-puzzle like game coming with 2.0.

As for the lyrics question (I don't know your lyric above, so I've used one of my own), the FITB version would be:

"I see a red door and I want it painted _________."

The preferred, 'question' format would be:

When the Rolling stones saw the "red door" what color did they want it painted?

Sargon  (Level: 112.9 - Posts: 1256)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 7:16 PM

If the goal is to raise the level of questions then I am surprised nothing was done about the question that gives the name of a song and lists the names of artists. It seems that is the same level as fill in the blank.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 9:14 PM

I'm not sure that same principal would apply - I take the music quizzes alot - and I know that with some of the songs I have to really think - some bands had such a similar sound / song type it's easy to confuse what band might have done it.

With music lyrics, that one word is usually pretty easy to remember if you know the song, which definitely lessens the challenge and makes it more of a speed answer thing - in my opinion, anyway

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 9:19 PM

Sploofizz, that totally undermines the integrity of listing lyrics verbatim.

And I'm a little put out that you didn't know the lyrics to my favorite song by .38 Special.

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 10:15 PM

I'm sorry I asked...

Now, onto more important things....why hasn't my quiz on abortion been aproved?

Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 10:18 PM

Maybe it was aborted.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 10:26 PM

Hmm Smaug - that 'splains things - my weird sports is probably stuck behind you and you started another editor huddle....sigh

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Tue, 1st Jan '08 10:34 PM

Is your 2.0 going to right and "more right answers"?? If so ,keep it !!

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 6:42 AM

Sorry but I agree with Saragon on the list quiz things. Not bad- mouthing anything I haven't done myself-no ton musoc as am a dolt there=but could apply to lists on anything. They are easy to e write and flood the front page with a steady stream of them -Linda

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 8:13 AM

I understand the points of Sargon & Heidi - but everyone is not as adept at the long and complicated quizzes - and membership would suffer if all the quizzes were so elitst (hate to use that word but can't think of another at the moment) to only pique the interest of the higher minded.

As I stated before as an example artist - name the song, or song, name the artist quizzes I don't consider to be takes a good memory or for some, googling, to get it right. I think Justin does a good job of having the most recently released by category.

I know that I do a balance of obscure quizzes as well as quizzes that I know more people are going to take. I can look at my quizzes and see that the movies & music quizzes that I do are taken more, and that I earn more points than I do on the ones I research for days, including my 1 EA. While it is wonderful that I have it, it's one of my least taken quizzes - which is frustrating for me - but I love my EA

The race to earn more points that matter only in moving higher on the charts is the drive behind the's the reward - and everyone is going to do what they do best in order to move up.

While I understand the frustrations when a flood of quizzes are released all at once, as people get used to the site, they understand what to look for and how to find what they want.

Possibly a solution is allow people to choose their favorite categories and send an email when a new quiz is released in those categories with a link directly to them - thus alerting people, and alleviating the fast moving last quiz added issue - at least a little bit.

The site is built on content contributed by all the members that participate - not just a few, or it would quickly die...I feel for Justin attempting to please all people.

I think he does a really good job of keeping balance as he can to make this enjoyable for everyone...I realize some don't agree, but as someone who has done websites and hosting for people for 10 years now, I know for a fact that everyone can't be's just not just do the best you can to keep it fun and enjoyable so that people continue to join and spread the word.

I know it's only my opinion - so take it for what it's worth

Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 8:34 AM

The FITB quizzes were always fun and educational to me. But a faction (which is now known as editors) wanted all quizzes to be drawn out and wordy. A sense of self importance perhaps. The FITB was truly abused in its previous format by 'cloggers'. However I always looked forward to any Swiper FITB as they were alway fun and truly a test of knowledge.

We were promised Ker-Blunk. I went Gold on that alone. (not really). Once (as if )Ker-Blunk is up and running all will be well.

Happy New Year Justin! Thanks for you do (except that editor thing) to make Sploofus the second best part of my day.

Resting in Middle Ground,
That Darn Felix

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 10:58 AM

Those of you who know me and have read my posts, know I am anything BUT "highbrow". Lobbied to have the short meaningful quizzes given consideration for EA's. Something does not have to be a tome to be excellent. But face it-list quizzs which music happens to lend itself well to are pretty easy to write-and if you have a wealth of lists at your fingertips, you can turn out a wealth of quizzes. They make the 25 most popular so folks must like them-hairy topic bound to offend as many as possible lol Linda

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 11:28 AM

Well, scrw 'em if they're offended, I say. What's the point of being an old lady if you can't speak your mind - I sure do, it's my right. Stop apologizing!

I've got to say (again), I've done a lot of the EA quizzes and there are some short, clever ones in there. Not a lot, but let's face it, there just aren't a lot of short clever quizzes. I think the wordier ones get prizes because they are more a showcase of exceptional writing skill, and they tend to have lots of new and usually interesting information.

I know people do love the music quizzes. I enjoy certain ones of them and may even have written one or two, but I will generally bypass a 1-100 list series of the 80s; I don't need to be reminded of how little I remember of the 80s. Don't want to do every Friends or Star Trek episode, either, and there are decades of sitcoms I know nothing about due to years of shiftwork, so those quizzes hold little appeal. I don't take as many quizzes any more, and the ones I do, I want them to tell me something new, engage my brain, maybe make me laugh, and best of all, give me material I can make into a pub trivia question!

Good news is that I still have no trouble finding plenty of good quizzes, so, let there be quizzes, the more the merrier. Don't worry, be happy.


Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 11:30 AM

Hmm.. I may be confused here (not unusual) but, If I write a question which gives 5 possible answers, isn't that a trivia question??

eg. The name of the Mountain region located in northern Alberta is:

Obviously this is not a real question but, I don't see a problem with this format. I see it often in this format at pubs on NTN.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 11:37 AM

I think it's okay like that but can't say "Alberta is located in the _____ mountains."

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 1:51 PM

Back to the EAs, Smoke. Have learned so much by EaA's by people like yourself, Lymnn, Garrbl, and others I apologize for omitting. But to name names which I will most likely misspell Curreaus's quizzes make me think every bit as much and am sure take time to think up and create. One author -will not even give a gender-receives repeated awardss on the most boring topics I can imagine and writes absolute novels on each question-the real "who gives a s--- variety. I learn nothing that I care to know or think I possibly would ever care to know-Linda

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 2:53 PM


Alberta is located in the *freakin'* mountains, right?

This is cool! Ask another!

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 3:25 PM

Smaug, You need to shut up when I am finally asserting myself and speaking my mind. Linda

Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 3:36 PM

What bugs me is that we can not submit true/false fill in the space etc,but they can give those to us as QOTD,a bit of a double standard dont you think ?

Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 3:57 PM

Smaug,where do i find your son's quizzes ? I dont know what name he goes by,thank you.

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 4:09 PM

Heidi, your communication handicap is not contagious nor should it be.

Grey -- it's m2c2c2. They are all on Mets baseball.

Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 4:14 PM

Thank you Smaug,i am not very good at it but willing to try,

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Wed, 2nd Jan '08 9:59 PM

Linda - just so you know I wasn't calling you high minded or anything like that - I used elitist because I just could not think of another word.

I've got a quiz in the queue right now - took me 18 hours to write and I did it yesterday because I was inspired - I'm hoping it will get an EA because I think it's pretty good - had to stop a few times because I was laughing so hard - I don't know it if will ever see the light of day since Smaug did a quiz on abortion that I'm probably stuck behind to start another editor fight - who knows!

But - I like doing the music quizzes too - I don't turn out tons, but I am doing a movie series - I only release them every 2-3 weeks or so - soon I'll be done through the whole alphabet - and those are my most popular quizzes - I get nice compliments on them - and while "list type" to a certain extent - they certainly aren't easy - and took research to get things right on them - I don't just copy and paste.

I have taken some of the type that you are talkig about - but I think the best we can do is avoid the ones we don't like after we have taken one.

I understand that the biggest issue here is the "churning them out" - I took some quizzes the other day that were 80's music - quite a stream of them - and found that at least 2-3 of the same songs/artists were repeated in the 10-12 quizzes I took - I was trying to up my quiz taker rank for December - so even though I felt BAD about it - I did it anyway - but was not my favorite thing because I didn't learn anything new.

I'm not trying to put down anyone, more than anything I guess I'm trying to defend the system that Justin built - because I know what it takes to do it - I've not ever built anything like Justin has - but we run some pretty intense and complicated sites, including newspapers --

I'm sorry if I made you feel bad, because that was not the intention - I promise - maybe I'm wrong everything everyone wants will someday be accomplished in the ever allusive Sploofus 2.0 and we can rename it to Sploofatopia

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