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Tuzilla  (Level: 144.8 - Posts: 3839)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 11:19 AM


I understand that the description place on quizzes vary widely from author to author, but do you read them? I try to give people a fair idea of what to expect. I sometimes include a line telling people to LOOK FOR CLUES IN THE QUESTIONS. I put a lot of hints into some quizzes, like my 20th century history quizzes and random question road trip quizzes. However, it seems the quiz details are not getting read, based on the results of many people.

For example, a question about beer that contains a fairly superfluous comment about watching scary movies and dancing the Freddie should be a pretty solid hint that the answers is Krueger's, not the four other beers.

The same goes for the pictures on the quiz. I often hint at a tough answer with the picture.

Or, am I over analyzing this???

1mks  (Level: 219.5 - Posts: 5925)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 11:29 AM

I definitely read them.......can't vouch for other folks though.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 11:30 AM

I can't help but think that Steve wrote this post after taking my quiz. First the PM telling me I'm loony and now this.

Allena  (Level: 266.4 - Posts: 1409)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 12:45 PM

Of course the assiduous people who read BBS also read the question, details, title and the picture. Kind of like asking those in church why the others did not come. However, judging from the notes I get, very few read thoroughly enough to see subtleties.

I just got a note saying my title was wrong when clearly the detail portion stated the content. I have had people that answered all synonyms when the goal was to find the antonym.

I get far more takers for Sploofactor quizzes than the long winded ones ... particularly EA's. Anyone that takes a Kaufman quiz gets details from which you could build a term paper! I am not sure of the popularity but I suspect ... high ratings from a few people

When I do Tuzilla quizzes I get unhappy with myself when I CAN'T find the hint. If he ever stops, I will never finish his quiz.

A problem with the sight is the emphasis on speed for quizzes. Many folks go too fast and push the wrong answer when they know the right one, or fail to get credit for the punch because they jump to the new question. This dereliction is especially unhappy on the TQOTD. Speed on WR's is significant. Still many play knowing their computer will not keep up with others and their fast modems.

Most people do not care about their sploofactor anymore. A whole lot have no idea what it is. I wonder if content is not more significant. Very early, Justin wrote a post saying he had no idea why people love to quick punch mindless quizzes.

Clearly, the way one treats the site is voluntary and speed is something many skip. However, one should not be penalized because they relish certain quizzes. I for one, appreciate those folks.

Tuzilla  (Level: 144.8 - Posts: 3839)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 12:51 PM

That is interesting. I wonder if there is a way to factor accuracy into the points you get against your time...maybe based on the average time for all of the takers of the quiz. Sounds like a job for some of our resident math whizbangs to ponder and postulate.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 1:02 PM

I tend not to take quizzes that give me NO idea of what I might encounter. Some folks have written the same pattern in their quizzes for a series and I would take those even with no description-they still give accurate descriptions, however. Linda

Salzypat  (Level: 161.6 - Posts: 5414)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 1:19 PM

"For example, a question about beer that contains a fairly superfluous comment about watching scary movies and dancing the Freddie should be a pretty solid hint that the answers is Krueger's, not the four other beers."

You're assuming that Freddie would mean something to everyone. Not everyone has seen a Freddie Krueger movie. I haven't. I might have gotten that correct because I have heard the name but I don't watch scary movies, so that clue also might have escaped me totally.

Today a question midway through the quiz referred to the photo. Heavens, by then I had already forgotten what the photo was. Sorry, this mind is full of info and some of it doesn't get long-term storage.

It's a shame when more attention isn't given to your clever details, because you've put a lot of work into them. I promise to be more careful in the future. But please don't hold it against me if I don't catch on to some of them. Chalk it up to senility, not stupidity.

Kaufman  (Level: 267.9 - Posts: 3941)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 1:30 PM

My "Sudokwiz" was a great example. As I described in the intro, no knowledge was necessary to get 100%, save for being able to identify a legal sudoko grid or portions thereof. Without that, the quiz consisted of some of the most esoteric esoterica around, and nobody could do well without an hour of googling.

So what happened? 45 people took the quiz. A third or so of them read and understood the description, and either got 100%, or close to that due to some mechanical errors (forgetting to write their answers down into a grid!) The rest? One outlier scored about 60%, but everyone else was 8-41% (blind guessing, plus, there were a few reasonably easy questions).

I'm not sure if my instructions were understandable by all, but it seems safe to say in this case that somewhat less than half of all takers took the time to absorb the instructions, in spite of the detailed descrption.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 1:57 PM

I don't sudo-whatever.

Bigbird  (Level: 249.1 - Posts: 3337)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 2:53 PM

I always read descriptions. After 34 years in front of a classroom harping on kids to read the directions, I do follow my own advice. They rarely did.

The problem with my Sploofactor is that I also read the entire question, and spend time enjoying the question. I do not care at all about my speed. There are some quiz authors where you know ahead of time that you really only have to read the last sentence to answer the question, but there I am, reading it all.


Maurlin  (Level: 220.5 - Posts: 2707)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 3:03 PM

I read at least the first part of the details. I think I have beginning Oldtimerz Desease, because sometimes when I start the questions I forget whether I have to choose a synonym or an antonym. I then have to open Sploofus in a new window and read the details again.

Allena/Jim, what surprised me about one of your more recent quizzes about sitcoms was that there are NO details at all.

Chyenn  (Level: 209.4 - Posts: 1332)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 3:17 PM

i read them, but sometimes i don't recall what i just read. i think it's 'sometimers disease' the precursor to Smoke's 'Oldtimer's disease' -- LOL

i get frustrated with questions that refer to the picture because most of the time the picture is too small to discern any detail. (i have the same problem with most of the avatars). i have increased the 'view' on my browser page but that doesn't help either.

Chyenn  (Level: 209.4 - Posts: 1332)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 3:20 PM

oops.. sorry..

that was 'Maurlin' not 'Smoke'.

see--- that just proves my point, i don't remember what i just read..


Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 3:28 PM

Like Linda, I prefer to have a bit of an idea of what is to come BEFORE I take a quiz. I ALWAYS read the quiz description first.

I take care writing mine, and hope that folks pay attention, as I can be quite diabolical in my quizzes, as some have found out later!

When I participated in one of the CQs on "My Favorite Things", I URGED the players to read my profile first, as much of the information they required was in there.
But many blithely toddled in, only to find they were floundering and blamed me later!

If you take the quiz......check out my profile first!


Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 3:37 PM

Read your profile....took your quiz.....still only got a 90%
Fun and well written, though, I just don't know my injun tribes.

Allena  (Level: 266.4 - Posts: 1409)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 5:30 PM

I have just launched (meaning you can see it tomorrow) a quiz called "Here's the answers) I am interested to see how many take that one and how many read the answers.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 6:11 PM

Sooo...tell me again why you picked my name out of thin air to go with "Oldtimer". Hmmmm?

Geophile  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 1545)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 8:06 PM

I have made a perfect fool out of myself when I haven't read the description, especially in Word Play categories, or one of Surreyman's REALLY difficult quizzes. You have to read where he says "difficult" and he does give one fair warning if you read it.

Geophile  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 1545)
Thu, 10th Jan '08 8:11 PM

One more thing...since playing WR's, I tend to skim over most everything I read as if I'm still playing WR's. It's driving my husband nuts - he says I'm becoming illiterate. I, of course, protest. I can't help it. Sploofus made me do it.

Nelly  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1167)
Fri, 11th Jan '08 10:34 AM

I read the descriptions but sometimes, despite the difficulty warnings or subject matter, I'm just curious/interested and decide to have a go anyway!

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Fri, 11th Jan '08 12:38 PM

Nice new pics, G! Who's that GORGEOUS dog?

Oh, yeah! The grandkid's way cute too.

Allena  (Level: 266.4 - Posts: 1409)
Fri, 11th Jan '08 12:57 PM

My test quiz is running 1/3 don't read and 2/3 read. It is called "Here Are the Answers" and is in 'The Arts' category (Musical Theater). I think that putting this note on BBS should have a pygmalian effect ... but not a big one.

Geophile  (Level: 167.3 - Posts: 1545)
Fri, 11th Jan '08 3:06 PM

Thanks, Smoke. That is actually a painting - I adore German Shepherds. Unfortunately, my husband was bitten by one once so we end up with Golden Retrievers, etc., and I love them too. We were given a GS puppy and she grew into a monster that liked to kill things so we gave her to some Indians. I haven't a clue what she did on the reservation! I love the German Shepherd best of all! Oh, yeah, the grandson IS cute, isn't he?

Allena  (Level: 266.4 - Posts: 1409)
Fri, 11th Jan '08 3:07 PM

Anyone who pushes an answer that was not listed in the details either has a very poor memory, doesn't care (and there are a lot of those) or did not read the details. We are at 5 of 15 who pushed wrong answers that were NOT listed in the details. Tuz .. I think I understand.

Allena  (Level: 266.4 - Posts: 1409)
Sun, 13th Jan '08 12:37 PM

Out of 39 takers ... 14 guessed answers that were NOT on the list in the Details. I am not going to list them. I did get two notes complaining that I did not list the correct answers in the correct order. Just my dyslexia.

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