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m2c2c2
M2c2c2  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 24)
Tue, 29th Jan '08 11:43 PM

TRAGIC GRIPE

Two weeks ago I had my son create the stupidest quiz we could think of -- the Easy Alphabet Quiz.

Sample questions: What is the first vowel in the alphabet? A, M, P, T, Z?

To date, 11 days, the quiz has had 221 takers. He has received 17 complimentary messages about what a great quiz it was. Zero mentioning it was a farce.

Contrast:

From July 6-July 8 I wrote three quizzes on unsolved mysteries, each of which received an Editor's Award. To date, a total of approximately 640 "quiz days" (vs. 11) they had a TOTAL of 139 takers (vs. 221). I received a TOTAL of 11 comments, 3 pointing out minor errors.

I draw no conclusions. I cast no aspersions. I merely pass along for your comments.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Tue, 29th Jan '08 11:45 PM

Smaug you didn't mention the point totals for those quizzes, a level one quiz doesn't get you very many points no matter how many takers you have! Isn't that some consolation?

m2c2c2
M2c2c2  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 24)
Tue, 29th Jan '08 11:52 PM

I don't care about or really even look at points -- hell, someone won a BILLION points today on a wager, why should I differentiate the quizzes that win 70,000 vs the quizzes that win 80,000?

My interest is more of a social commentary...and a sad one...

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:02 AM

Well you opened it up to comments, so I'm giving mine. I go to work, I go to college, and when I'm done I don't want to learn anymore, I just come here to have fun and don't want to take smart quizzes. I don't want to work my brain anymore after school. Also, I consider this a game, and taking hard quizzes affects my sploofactor. If they ever included level of difficulty in the sploofactor calculations I would take harder quizzes. I don't take them because I don't want my sploofactor to drop, though I'll have to admit I love the unsolved mystery concept and they look like fun quizzes. Keep in mind, for me this is a GAME, and I'm playing it. If they change the rules I'll change how I play. Some of why I avoided them anyway.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:14 AM

How is it a sad commentary smaug? I don't see your point, spell it out for me. It doesn't mean our society is getting dumber per se.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:20 AM


I suspect the audience for the "explanation" would not need further discourse.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:21 AM

Wow, Heidi was right, you really are clever! Now if only you make an argument and a valid point.....good one smaug.

lblewis
Lblewis  (Level: 47.0 - Posts: 31)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:58 AM

I agree with Smoke. I think people make their choices about quizes based on their interest or knowledge of any given topic, or they take it because someone they know or like has written it. I don't understand what you are complaining about and why this posted thread is, at first glance, by your son

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 1:26 AM

Well, sorry if I came off as cranky smaug, but I don't personally have time to learn about interesting topics like unsolved mysteries, do a boring but practical quiz on accounting and I'll take it. Only men of leisure (people who work only 40 hours a week) get to study topics they "like", that have nothing to do with making a living. I'm not one of them.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 1:32 AM

M2C2C2,or whoever....

I assume that your son's quiz was entered into
the Kid's section, and taken only by kids.

Are ANY of us as nice now, as we were when we
were young, optimistic, and accepting????
And - as we age, we become more discerning and
more confident about expressing our opinions.

Your story is about human nature changing as we age....

Is that the point you were making????

tazmaniac72
Tazmaniac72  (Level: 188.0 - Posts: 213)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 2:18 AM

okay...my conclusion:

Simple quizzes get simply better compliments and ratings, because they are simple!!

Hard quizzes are more challenging. Most will avoid them because they are hard, and the hard takers that love a hard quiz will be more hard on you because they know all about the hard quiz..and probably know (or think they know) more about it than you do. If you challenge the high thinkers, be prepared to be challenged!

That's why I like it simple....and keep it fun. I use my brain too much at other places...I like to give it a break here and keep it easy.

sargon
Sargon  (Level: 112.0 - Posts: 1256)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 4:22 AM

You tainted any results of the experiment by posting announcements on Salty Dog. If each of you had submitted the quizzes at the same time without fan fare it would have been a better test.



jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 6:01 AM

Methinks thou protesteth too much.

If you have no respect for the people here, and you do things with the purpose of belittling us, why stay? Go to MENSA sites and find more people who are your intellectual equals. Or is that part of the problem? Too smart for us? Too stupid for them?

erin0620
Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 7:34 AM

I took all your quizzes, until you started coming on here and whining like a pre-teen with PMS. This cheese is not in keeping with the Smaug faction philosophy.




Pull my finger.

slicko
Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 7:47 AM

Somedays I want to have fun and not think - others I want to be challenged and learn. That's the cool thing about this site - something for everyone. I don't care about the Sploofactor - I've gotten several 0's on quizzes - knew I was going to get a terrible score but wanted the author to get some points - and thought I might learn something that someday might show up on a TQOD.

sherilynn1962
Sherilynn1962  (Level: 116.2 - Posts: 372)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 8:31 AM

Why are you calling him Smaug?

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 8:44 AM

FYI -- the first two posts on here were by me, Smaug. I forgot to sign out after signing in as m2 to look at his quiz numbers and comments on the alphabet quiz.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 8:59 AM

The point about it being filed in the children's section is a good one I hadn't thought of. But I don't think many children took it looking at the comments and quiztakers. As to the theory of the volume being from friends of mine, it had 5 times as many as my own quiz!

Anyway, obviously hit a nerve, so, whatever. It is only funny to us because we literally tried to think of the dumbest quiz we could, and it was fantastically successful.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 9:00 AM

Erin, I don't care if you take my quizzes or why you don't.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 257.2 - Posts: 3936)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 9:23 AM

I took one or more of the unsolved mystery quizzes way back when. Enjoyed them greatly, but didn't comment; had nothing to say. Stayed away from the kiddie letter one. No interest for me. So I added to Smaug's statistic. And I'm not sure what that means. Besides, I know, everyone else will do otherwise anyway

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 9:23 AM

I'm so pleased it was amusing for you both, but as a social experiment I think it ranks just below pointing to a stain on someone's tie and poking them in the nose when they look down.

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 9:32 AM

allright......who told Smoke the Smaug faction secret handshake?

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 9:44 AM

Wait...I thought pull my finger was the secret handshake.

chyenn
Chyenn  (Level: 203.0 - Posts: 1332)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 10:10 AM

Smaug, M2, you found new rats for the maze you created.

we all feel used and abused for your amusement.

thank you.

now the dead horse has been sufficiently beaten.

when may we bury it?

sherilynn1962
Sherilynn1962  (Level: 116.2 - Posts: 372)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 10:40 AM

I took your son's quiz - I thought it was cute. Didn't find it in the "For Kids Only" section, though......

S.

winddancer41
Winddancer41  (Level: 63.3 - Posts: 1113)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 10:58 AM

You know i have really tried to give smaug the benefit of doubt and find something nice about him, but i think he lacks a real life and just tries to create one on this site, so i tell you what how about walking just one day in my life and welcome to the real world and excuse us who come in this site for relaxation. winddancer41

erin0620
Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 11:23 AM

I don't where I could have gotten the impression that you cared about people taking your quiz...
I was only passing along additional information for your highly scientific "experiment"--Smaug's persona non grata

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:07 PM

Smaug - you can't have it both ways.

You post numerous threads complaining that people don't take your EA quizzes. Then you tell people who aren't amused by you that you don't care whether they take your quiz or not.

You post all these threads, then say you have hit a nerve with us.

We're not the ones posting the threads - so the only nerve hit is yours.

You either do care that we take your quizzes or you don't. But you contradict yourself within the same thread.

Soon, no one will care any more about what you want or don't want from your fellow Sploofs. It's getting more and more difficult to follow your up and down comments.

I think I'm through reading any thread started by you.

You remind me of my middle schoolers - they just want attention. For them, even bad attention is still attention.

I come home from school not wanting more of the same from a fun puzzle site - especially from a highly intelligent adult.

And yes, you do care what we think - or you wouldn't keep expressing your opinion of us and what we think.

xhoney1
Xhoney1  (Level: 76.0 - Posts: 185)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 12:57 PM

Did it ever occur to you, Smaug, that the only reason some of us took that quiz was simply because it was your son's? That is the only reason I took it after reading his thread entitled "Smaug's Son's Quiz"..."Please play my Easy Alphabet quiz..." Thought I was being nice to a friend's child.

redwingchick
Redwingchick  (Level: 91.1 - Posts: 420)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 1:11 PM

Ever think we are doing this to drive you crazy?

smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 1:23 PM


Sort of odd to me that this inspired personal attacks.

It wasn't aimed at any individuals. Sorry if it offended. Obviously if you read my quizzes I'm fascinated by anomalies, and I just think this is one -- that the best product (not just mine, all the EAs and more challenging quizzes)gets the least market. Just seems strange.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 1:46 PM

"People are strange."
- Jim Morrison

(punctuation inside the quotations marks)

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 3:26 PM

LOLZ, yo

smoke20
Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 3:53 PM

Who you callin' "strange"? (Punctuation outside the quotation marks)

twoxfourman
Twoxfourman  (Level: 82.4 - Posts: 153)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 3:57 PM

Only if you are a stranger, are people strange.

rnmorg
Rnmorg  (Level: 128.2 - Posts: 690)
Wed, 30th Jan '08 6:03 PM

However, I do have it on good authority that faces look ugly - when you're alone. Damned mirror!

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Thu, 31st Jan '08 3:09 AM

Very true JEFF....
When we get to know each other, we find out just how strange we ALL are!!!!


smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Thu, 31st Jan '08 3:58 AM

I'm not entirely sure as to why the personal attacks surprise you. I got the impression you were insinuating that the people on this site aren't particularly bright if we are only taking the easy quizzes. It seemed like a personal attack on your audience to me. I also wouldn't have taken the quiz had it not been advertised.


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