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missgeorge
Missgeorge  (Level: 63.0 - Posts: 388)
Thu, 31st Jan '08 8:32 PM

SCREEN DOCTORS

I really enoyed this one. Please publish the entire list after this puzzle is over so I can see others.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Thu, 31st Jan '08 9:55 PM

It was ok. I would have appreciated consistency between doctor and dr.

berylm
Berylm  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 478)
Thu, 31st Jan '08 10:13 PM

I didn't notice any inconsistency - but then I assumed it would be whichever was used for the item in question? Sometimes a name, eg a movie title, uses it in full, sometimes they use it in shortened form so whichever it was originally is how it would have been used here, surely?

Otherwise we'd get even more people complaining (justifiably) that the title was wrong!

tallactor
Tallactor  (Level: 153.1 - Posts: 423)
Thu, 31st Jan '08 11:22 PM

Well, at least one of the puzzles I got did not use the form of "doctor" that is in the official title of the film. But my bigger objection is to violation of the rule that the present tense should be used when describing an event that takes place in a work of fiction. Said violation cost me a three-move penalty.

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 165.6 - Posts: 1982)
Fri, 1st Feb '08 12:06 AM

Is that a real rule?

I didn't notice any tenses that seemed particularly out of place, but maybe mine all matched.

pafork
Pafork  (Level: 132.0 - Posts: 537)
Fri, 1st Feb '08 3:01 AM

I don't know that rule either. As long as there aren't two different tenses in the same puzzle I think either way is o.k.
Fun one

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3301)
Fri, 1st Feb '08 4:59 AM

Never heard of that "rule". Using the image from the previous poster, I don't think that I would say Alice falls down the rabbit hole. She fell down the rabbit hole.

Thought the puzzle was just fine!

A different Alice

lamizell
Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Fri, 1st Feb '08 6:29 AM

Tallactor and I are the ones who gripe about tense consistency. In things that are stuck in time, so to speak, like books and movies, the present tense is used. Alice falls down the hole as she does it; later she can mention she fell down the hole. Dirty Harry shoots his gun, Indiana Jones snaps his whip, Iago plants a hankerchief.

Often, the selection of five puzzles will all be of either past or present tense except one. It seems to occur most often in the puzzles dealing with a specific year. For example, a record was set, an element was discovered, a king died, but a starlet marries her leading man. It's frustrating and letter-eating, and we've suggested some guidelines be established so everyone's on the same page.

The flip side, of course, will also bite you in the ass. In movie weapons, I had a villain "tries to kill Bond with the golden gun" because the movie is *The Man with the Golden Gun.* Wrong. So I cuss and change it to "tried," thinking black thoughts about the editor. Wrong again. The answer was "HIS golden gun." D'oh!

tallactor
Tallactor  (Level: 153.1 - Posts: 423)
Fri, 1st Feb '08 8:04 AM

Yes, it is a rule. According to the Little, Brown Handbook, the present tense is used "to discuss the content of literature, film, and so on."

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 256.8 - Posts: 3936)
Fri, 1st Feb '08 9:34 AM

I had a terrible time with this puzzle through nobody's fault but my own. First I went in with this weird assumption that the puzzle was about "Screen Doctors" and not Screen "Doctors". So when I got my first puzzle: "Doctor No (7-letter word with E in position 6) Sean Connery", I swung for the fences with "opposed". One 3-move penalty later, I cautiously entered S and T, got them in the first two positions of the mystery word, and confidently entered "stalked". It was only after that that I realized I had misconstrued the title of the puzzle and should be considering the movie and not the character as the subject of the sentence. SIGH!

Later on I suffered from an attack of Dolly Parton's Disease. Having a word that was obviously a four-letter number ending in E, I guessed the wrong one IN SPITE OF ALREADY HAVING GUESSED N. Idiot!

I was so mad at myself I vowed never to screw up another WP for the rest of January. And you know what? I didn't.

lamizell
Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Sat, 2nd Feb '08 4:58 AM

I'll also point out that the actors' participation in a project is present tense as long as they're with a show, but past tense once they've left, regardless of whether the show is still on the air. So this example from the Mystery Name (Martin) puzzle is incorrect: "[Martin Sheen] stars in *The West Wing* TV drama." Nope. But he starred in it for six or seven years.


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