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Gypsylady  (Level: 141.0 - Posts: 6037)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 11:23 AM


This is something which happened to my computer about 1:00 a.m. this morning. Don't know how many people are aware of it, but it has taken me forever to get it off of the computer. You can remove it out of your programs, and it's still there using the normal method of uninstall.

What is WinSpyKiller? (Description):

WinSpyKiller Remover
Keep your computer safe from spyware & malware attacks.

90% of the computers connected to the Web are infected.

WinSpyKiller is a rogue anti-Spyware product. Components of this rogue software install a trial version on your PC without your knowledge or consent. These components are likely variants of the widespread Zlob and Smitfraud Downloaders. The Trojan Downloaders actually download the program but they don't launch it right away. Instead they use trickery to make the user think he or she has downloaded it. By employing a Windows Security Center emulator, the Trojans can display genuine-looking taskbar balloons and message popups claiming that the computer is in great danger, unprotected, are already infected with some malevolent file. The messages advertise some Windows "selected" or "approved" application that can fix the problem. The user clicks on the alert and the rogue application opens.

The Rogue program, in this case WinSpyKiller, comes as a trial version that - like its Downloader constituents - relies on its ability to look genuine. It scans the hard drive, but instead of producing an accurate account of Spyware infections, it produces a falsified or exaggerated list of threats. The user, scared once more by the overwhelming number of malicious entries, is goaded into purchasing the full or operational version of the product. At this point the user divulges a credit card number and the scam is complete.

Often Rogue anti-Spyware applications are simply repackagings of older, already ousted applications. The publishers don't have to change the fake scanning engine; all they have to do is change the graphics on the interface and alter the file names. To this respect, WinSpyKiller seems to be another publication from the infamous Win software company who have made a series of rogue programs supported by the Zlob Trojan. These Include WinAntiSpyware and WinAntiVirus.

I downloaded Adware Alert, and as far as I can tell it is finally gone.

I hope this may put other's on alert in the event this may happen to them.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 11:39 AM

This is a nasty nasty. I have Adaware, Spybot, Norton, and AVG but I was still unable to get this off my kids' computer. It actually hijacked the computer so badly that it took away my administrative capabilities to get into the control panel and make changes, download anything from the internet, or get into the registry. I finally took the computer in to an expert and had them wipe the computer and reinstall all the basic components. It only cost me $27.50 and was soooooooooo worth it.

Gypsylady  (Level: 141.0 - Posts: 6037)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 11:50 AM

I have the newest Edition of Norton, and I used to have a few others, but Norton Tech Support said they interferred with Norton, so I uninstalled the others.

However, today, I downloaded Adware Alert from their website, cost me $29.95, but as far as I can tell, it has taken the Icon in the System Tray, away, No more pop up alerts, and hopefully it is completely gone. Since I downloaded the Adware Alert, my Norton has a red "X" in the System Tray, so I'm thinking maybe it is interferring with the Norton. I can click on the "Fix" on Norton for viruses and spyware, and it won't do anything. Was thinking if I just kept the Adware Alert on my desktop, and took it out of the System Tray, maybe I can get my green check mark back in the Norton Icon. Haven't tried it yet though. Glad you got your's fixed, Lodi! I guess that's about the worst thing that's ever happened since I've been using a computer.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 6:40 PM

Its a bad sign when any program disables your virus protection. Are you sure this is not additional spyware disguised as spyware removal software?

Eileeny  (Level: 66.5 - Posts: 240)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 9:03 PM

These scams are nasty nasty, I have taken even Norton off my computer seemed like anything it picked up it could not fix just back up, so i downloaded a free antivirus it has been great and i have had no problems, it is free if anyone is interested .
Also for anyone using Msn messenger there are several viruses going through it pops up a url onto everyone on your friends list even offlines and if they click on it they have a virus. never download anything if you have'nt been prompted by the sender assuring you that it is from them..OIva the puter world is scarey..

Gypsylady  (Level: 141.0 - Posts: 6037)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 9:18 PM

Thanks, Eileen! I purchased the Adware Alert at It seems to be on the up and up, but Norton just doesn't like it if you have anything else. I like Norton for most things, but if you have a problem like you say, Norton is unable to fix it unless you get Technical Support. There is no way to delete anything when it finds a problem. I think it expires in May. This rogue program just kept popping back up even after I removed it from the programs, and it wouldn't get off the screen, and all of these alerts and warnings popping up. At least, the Adware Alert program removed several things and the pop ups and warnings are gone.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 9:39 PM

For spyware programs, I run Ad Aware and Spybot (both free programs) and neither have a conflict with Norton, especially since Norton is an antivirus program and the other two are for spyware. If Adware Alert came up as a popup saying you have spyware on your computer, then told you it would scan for free, but then made you pay to actually remove the spyware, you might have just further infected it. That's how my kids' computer got infected. A popup came up saying something to that effect, and they clicked on it.

Gypsylady  (Level: 141.0 - Posts: 6037)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 10:02 PM

That's what happened to mine, Lodi! Last night the pop up came up and warnings, only it was Win Spy Killer, that came up, and since it looked like a Security Screen, my granddaughter who is 13, downloaded it, only it was a trial version. They wanted you to buy the full version; therefore, they would have access to a credit card number. I found they were a rogue company when I googled "How to remove it".

I actually went to the website to download the Adware Alert. It wasn't a pop up. I searched in Google until I found something I thought was reputable. My Norton is some kind of a Security Pack. It has the anti-virus, spyware scan, but once it finds something, there's no way to delete it.

Chyenn  (Level: 200.8 - Posts: 1332)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 10:08 PM

i finally realized you 2 are discussing 2 different things..

one is Adware Alert and the other is AdAware. two different programs but the similarity in name was confusing.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 10th Feb '08 10:41 PM

Actually, 3 programs because the one I use is called Ad Aware. I use both Spybot Search & Destroy and Ad Aware because they will sometimes pick up on something the other missed. Both are free and both I have been using for several years. Ad Aware is from Lavasoft and Spybot Search & Destroy I especially like because you can go see how many url's have been hijacked on your computer and fix them.

Larrybus  (Level: 304.5 - Posts: 383)
Mon, 11th Feb '08 7:23 PM

Another free program that's worth installing is SpywareBlaster from Java Cool Software. They maintain a database of malicious Websites like the phony anti-spyware site mentioned above. SpywareBlaster downloads the list of sites and adds them to the "restricted sites" in your browser. That way, if you encounter a link to a known spyware site it won't be able to do anything on or to your PC.

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