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Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 12:29 PM


This link shows the amount of product and cost of a weeks worth of groceries from familes around the world. Make sure you scroll down, it really opened my eyes.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 12:34 PM

It's really frightening that the only family with no fresh fruits/veggies or meat is from the US.

Nelly  (Level: 181.0 - Posts: 1167)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 2:01 PM

Certainly food for thought there! Thanks Erin.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 2:07 PM


Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 3:06 PM

Now I see some tomatoes and grapes and what looks like some green leafy stuff in the American's photo. I also see packs of meat on the table. But I don't see any bread other than Texas Toast and I see a crap load of sugary foods/drinks and fast food.

Sherilynn1962  (Level: 116.2 - Posts: 372)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 3:20 PM

There are 3 of us (sometimes a 4th) and my grocery bill runs about $175-$200 per week. This includes a huge amount of fruits and vegetables, and lunch items for my daughter, whose school doesn't have a cafeteria, so I consider myself lucky. Believe it or not, if I buy less chicken/fish (which is about the only meat we eat) and more vegetarian product (Loma Linda, Morning Star Farms or Boca products, for example) the bill increases significantly. Organics, of course, can make the bill jump. If we're in a "tofu" mood, the bill decreases significantly.

What I truly don't understand is why a gallon of milk costs $4.17 - and that's at WalMart!

Grandwazoo  (Level: 51.1 - Posts: 16)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 3:40 PM


That is highway robbery. It is normally around $2.89 here, cheaper on occasion. The highest price I can remember ever seeing is $3.99 at a 7-11, which is always the highest priced place at which you can buy grocery items.

Smaug  (Level: 145.4 - Posts: 2765)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 3:48 PM

Jeez, I have three teenagers. How much is three one way tickets to East Bumstarve?

Sherilynn1962  (Level: 116.2 - Posts: 372)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 3:53 PM

Yep - $4.17, and my husband goes through milk like nothing I've ever seen.

7-11 puts it on sale - 2 gallons for $6, but you have to buy 2 gallons or pay full price for the one.

I knew we were getting ripped off on milk. Eggs are bad, too - $1.92 per dozen at Smith's. I wish I could have chickens here. I miss fresh eggs. We used to get 30 eggs per day during the summer, and walk up and down the neighborhood giving eggs to the neighbors!

Aquamar  (Level: 186.9 - Posts: 927)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 4:07 PM

Where I live milk is around $4.00 a gal. We are a family of five and I spend around $200 dollars a week. Kids lunches, fresh veggies and not much meat. I noticed a lot of fresh veggies in most homes. I was just thinking that they have a lot more than I can afford to buy. I was shocked that the US family would spend all that money on so much junk food.

Twoxfourman  (Level: 82.4 - Posts: 153)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 4:10 PM

Hunting and fishing helps lower the food bill here. Of course if you factor in guns, boats, clothing, license fees and time off from work, I guess I would be better off going to the butcher.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 6:46 PM

Nope, wouldn't - cause you didn't factor in the extra cost of psychotherapy you'd hafta pay for if you didn't expend all that tension in the form of hunting. I bet you come out ahead now.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 6:55 PM

Guess that would explain why Scott is gone hunting so much. It keeps him out of prison, probably.

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 6:57 PM

Ours is much lower, for now anyway - we stock up on ramen when it goes on sale

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 7:12 PM

I didn't see any beer.

Glyders  (Level: 160.3 - Posts: 168)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 7:46 PM

Thought I saw some beer in the German frame.

Allena  (Level: 268.6 - Posts: 1413)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 7:46 PM

There is nothin' US about the US! Picking a North Carolina family is like picking a Cairo middle east family. Neither is representative of the rest of their country. However, it is quite clear that market countires have a much higher cost than farming economy countries. So are the wages.

In the North Carolina picture, I did not see any ribs, or deer baloney. Nor fresh collards, turnips and squash. The USA is familiar with year round strawberries and fresh corn from early spring to late fall. Lobster can vary from $2. a pound to $30. A fifth of vodka is less than a dollar in Russia and schnapps is made in your home in Germany from potatoes grown in the front yard.

What is amazing to me is how much it costs to send free food to Africa and then who sells it for what amount to those that can pay.

I suspect that many on Sploofus would profit greatly by talking to someone in the third world. Though he is not really very poor, my Jordanian guide showed me his parents home where they raise chickens and pigeons (for meat) in the back yard, in the middle of Amman, the capital city. I saw rice being brought to boat people in Hong Kong who never left their boat ... never! The Egyptian Bedouins live on goat and camel milk, animals that survive by eating what grows in a desert.

Everytime I go to a Super Market I think of a Russian lady that visited Washington D.C. to spy on us. When she went to the first supermarket she said, "come on! ... take me to where you really shop."

America's poor are so rich that most of the world envies them. And, amazingly, many we consider in poverty are very happy with their food, their families and their life.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 7:57 PM

Really Allena? I would assume the poor in socialist industrialized countries wouldn't envy our poor. So I would assume. Other than third world countries, which countries envy our poor? I don't like the term "third world" or "industrialized" too much, but don't have others, so I'll use the words I remember from school. I'm not a world traveler or anything, so I wouldn't know, and just wanted a little clarification on that. Thanks.

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 8:40 PM

I checked again and saw the beer. I should have known the Germans would not go shopping without bringing home some brew. Thanks Glyders.

Geophile  (Level: 168.3 - Posts: 1553)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 9:05 PM

Several years ago, we hosted a Russian exchange student. On her first trip to the supermarket she stopped in her tracks and said "ah, the difference between the United States and Russia. You have way too many choices!" She couldn't believe her eyes when she saw the pet food aisle and the dairy overwhelmed her.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 9:24 PM

Not trying to pick a fight or anything here, I'm just so surprised. Never occured to me before that our poor might be envied! I always thought that if I were "doomed" to poverty, which I'm not, that I would hop the first flight to a wealthy socialist country where I would get all kinds of neat laws and healthcare and subsidies and cheap college and so forth. It may not be the best economic system or anything, but as a poor person I think it would really appeal to me to go there, if I thought I would get stuck in poverty anyway. I'm surprised more of our poor people haven't tried it, I would! If I couldn't earn my own money, taking someone else's sounds great!

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 9:55 PM

I think that's called welfare in the U.S.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 10:07 PM

I know what you mean Lodi, only I've never been able to qualify for any kind of assistance in America as a poor person, even when I was making the minimum wage I made too much money. Single moms, or families where a spouse doesn't work maybe, whatever percentage of the poor that applies to, I just had the impression that in those other countries the services were for everybody, instead of just the .00001% of the population under the "poverty line". I just think as someone who is poor I would rather be there, where some health coverage is better than no health coverage, where I could actually afford college and so forth. No offense, it seems like that system kind of jips the middle and upper classes, but as a poor person I would personally way rather be there.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 10:07 PM

Is my "impression" of those countries wrong??

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 18th Feb '08 10:22 PM

Oh well, just curious about other places, we can let it drop. Have a nice day!

Allena  (Level: 268.6 - Posts: 1413)
Tue, 19th Feb '08 1:17 AM

In Russia we followed a well dressed young to her 'house' a building with rooms that had no electricity and a spicket outside where she got her water for the night. We sent our guide Nikie's becuase she was keeping her Aunt and two friends in her meager place. she did have a phone but no TV.

In china almost 80% of the population now has three sets of clothes. Did you know that a walk-in closet is a luxury. Our poor only have two phones, a washer, drier, dishwasher, tv very clean running water, a car and pay no taxes but still have heath care on Medicaid. Do you have any idea what running water is worth in Africa? Remember, the Romans only got to the Mediterrean edge.

The poverty level in the USA for a family of four is $21,200 plus medicare. I agree, that is aweful. But, schools and health care (no nose jobs or bust enhancements) is free. Nobody goes hungry unless they are mentally sick and can not find the shelters. There is no communist country I have been to that is sorry to get rid of the USSR. A few East Germans miss the dole. That's it ... including Poland, Hungry, Romania, Czech Republic, Croatia, Montenegro, Slovenia. Turkey, Jordan and Egypt envy out poor as well. The number one thing in the USA is that any kid can get out of poverty, maybe be elected to office and maybe become well off. Tell that to a Russian who is not in the Mafia! They are moving to the middle east, as I write this. My favorite was a guy with two Egyptian wives and one Russian wife. He left the two Egyptian wives to raise his kids and took his Russian wife to the resort where he ran a booth selling tourist junk. He not only envies our poor, all of his wives envy anyone that can come to America. (especially the Russian)

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Tue, 19th Feb '08 1:37 AM

Thanks for clarifying Allena, a real eye opener for me.

Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Tue, 19th Feb '08 2:58 AM

Thinking about it, I've met a number of latino immigrants in my area who wanted to go back to Latin America to be poor people there instead. They didn't think being poor here was really that great. I still wonder if maybe America isn't overrated as a refuge for the poor, if maybe we're just resting on our historical laurels a little, and maybe it's just reputation rather than the reality of it which draws the poor here. Otherwise why would they want to go back to being "dirt" poor rather than stay here? I'll keep wondering, and maybe after some travel or study I'll find an answer. Some of those European countries we learned about in class sound better, wish I would have paid attention to the names of the countries!!

Surreyman  (Level: 274.4 - Posts: 2775)
Tue, 19th Feb '08 4:55 AM

Hey Allena - a walk-in closet (wardrobe?) is a luxury in the UK, too!
Or did that mean WC!

Larefamiliaris  (Level: 135.2 - Posts: 877)
Tue, 19th Feb '08 8:53 AM

Walk-in closet? That's called a flat - an apartment - round here!

Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Tue, 19th Feb '08 4:13 PM

I just read an article that the states with the highest poverty and welfare are states where groceries are more costly since there are so many families with food stamps. The government pays for it, ergo, raise the prices. I pay 2.99 for a half gallon milk with my food stamps (not a joke). There are strict rules for stamps, no prepared food, i.e.,rotisserie chicken or fried chicken, so you can't just grab something quick for dinner. People with cash benefits can get those or non-food items, but some, like me, can only get food.

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