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smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 1:42 AM

REWRITING QUIZZES

Is there any reason why I couldn't rewrite a couple of my early quizzes? I know it would skew the statistics, but I don't feel some of my early ones quite live up to my own standards of quiz writing that I have developed along the way. That little pop-up comes up when I want to change the question, about skewing resultss, and it makes me feel guilty for wanting to better my own quiz! Any opinions out there? Has anyone ever done this to one of their own quizzes before? Why do statistics matter anyways? Just wondering.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 1:43 AM

And lastly, is it against the rules somehow?

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 7:41 AM

Hmmm....No one's answering. Maybe I should just address this to an editor. Is there any reason this shouldn't be done? Second, is it possible to resubmit after the rewrite to check for any errors??

Sploofus Editor
Sploofernatural (Editor)  
Sun, 24th Feb '08 8:23 AM

Give us a little time, please. This is an unusual question.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 8:30 AM

Why not just wait a while and rewrite the quiz the way you want? I know that I see a lot of people who write music quizzes recycle a lot of their questions & answers - just maybe rewritten in a different way (and sometimes not).

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 8:52 AM

Okay editor, I'll be patient. Thanks for answering.

That does seem like an okay idea Lodi, only I would like to see my ratings go up on those quizzes. When players rate those quizzes down they don't take into consideration how new I was back then, and that I really had no idea what I was doing, they just give me bad scores.

I would also in the long run like to develop a good reputation as a quiz writer, and don't want those quizzes to hurt that any. It seems like it's in the best interest of the site just to allow the rewrite, since I know the powers that be desire high quality quizzes here, and when I was floundering at the beginning I don't think I achieved that.

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 9:38 AM

I also have a question about posted quizzes. According to the "Terms of Use", quiz writers are only granting Sploofus a license - not copyright ownership - in their quizzes. Yet, it does not seem to be possible to delete posted quizzes. How does one go about withdrawing permission (that is, withdrawing the license) for a particular quiz to be used? (I am not asking because I want to retract permission to use, but I am curious about how one would retract the use license in any quiz.)

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 9:59 AM

That's a good question. I have an old quiz out there that is based on the layout of Sploofus way back in the day. It is not obsolete as Sploofus has changed over the years. I can't delete it so I put a big disclaimer at the front that says "DON'T TAKE THIS QUIZ, IT IS NO LONGER RELEVANT!" But I still get takers. Some say they read the disclaimer but take it anyway, but I still get the occasional taker who then complains about the quiz. If I could just delete it or disable it.....

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 10:03 AM

I've often wondered that myself.....but I'm taking that quiz!! I want to know what it used to be like.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 279.5 - Posts: 6639)
Sun, 24th Feb '08 11:13 AM

I edit questions regularly. Not just for infelicities but when I think I can express it better or give more or less clues. But that is maybe one question in a quiz not the whole thing.

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Sun, 24th Feb '08 8:19 PM

Personally, I would not oppose a major rewrite. A rehash, on the other hand, is not something I would support.

Editing questions of an existing quiz is generally okay. By that I mean fixing spelling, grammar and errors. Clarifying is all right, as long as it is not a major rewrite. No one should be doing wholesale rewrites of quizzes that already exist. A couple of people in the past lost their ability to edit quizzes because of heavy-handed tinkering. One of the reasons you cannot change categories once a quiz has been launched is people who could not resist playing games to stay on the front page, and a couple who could not manage to respect category changes made by editors, even though it was clearly explained to them not to do so.

You can always write a support ticket if you want to make a major change to something.

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Sun, 24th Feb '08 9:18 PM

By that, I meant the creation of an entirely new quiz, not going in to make wholesale changes to an existing one.

smokydevil
Smokydevil  (Level: 163.0 - Posts: 5381)
Mon, 25th Feb '08 11:27 AM

Thank you, appreciate the response sploofusionist. I look forward to making some changes when I have time. Did anyone have an answer to TSK9653's question??

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Mon, 25th Feb '08 6:47 PM

Laddy: Thanks for looking out for me. I remain interested in an answer.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Mon, 25th Feb '08 6:54 PM

All I know is that editors cannot delete a live quiz, and players cannot delete a live quiz. So if someone had a legitimate reason to pull their intellectual property off of the Sploofus site it would take a Support Ticket or email directly to Justin with the request. But if it's important to you, I don't see why you couldn't request it.

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Mon, 25th Feb '08 8:22 PM

Thank you. I am an attorney and was curious. I think at one point I had read something about Jason considering doing something with quizzes that seemed to me to exceed the license extended by the quiz authors as described in the "Terms of Use". I think maybe he was considering selling a book of Sploofus quizzes, but I may have that screwed up. In any event, that was the source of my curiosity.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Mon, 25th Feb '08 9:00 PM

Justin

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Mon, 25th Feb '08 10:23 PM

Yes, Justin. Escuse me.

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 26th Feb '08 7:45 AM

Just out of curiosity-how does one e-mail Justin directly?? A couple of times in a support ticket I have directed a question/ suggestion/comment to him but to the best of my knowledge the reply always came from an editor not Justin-Linda

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Tue, 26th Feb '08 9:56 PM

IF the editors can address a Support Ticket issue, we do so without involving Justin, even if you addressed your inquiry directly to him. If the issue is something that only Justin can handle, we hit a button to "escalate" the ticket, but Justin gets to these items only when he can. He has asked that we do this, so we handle what we can as it comes in.

I thought the direct email address had been published somewhere but since I cannot find it I want to double check with the other editors before I print it here.

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Tue, 26th Feb '08 10:11 PM

That would be nice if we had it!!

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Thu, 28th Feb '08 12:05 AM

Justin just let me know that he gets far too many emails and has no time to read them all, let alone deal with them. He is getting rid of the direct email and wants all comments and questions to go through the Support Ticket system, where the editors will handle the majority of the problems.

zeedee
Zeedee  (Level: 224.7 - Posts: 1088)
Thu, 28th Feb '08 5:51 AM

Ref: "[Justin]. . . "wants all comments and questions to go through the Support Ticket system."

As Heidi has mentioned several times in the past, this system does not help a member who is having problems getting INTO Sploofus. We need a way to contact the support system from outside of the site itself. I seem to remember reading that it was possible to email support@sploofus.com . Is that the email address that Justin is "getting rid of," or is it still a viable address?

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Fri, 29th Feb '08 4:26 AM

Contact info when one cannot login is ultra important as one CANNOT submit a support ticket, post, or pm other players. Know there is the refugee site but this seems a bit of a back door route of gaining access to the site which many of us pay to support. Could not an e-mail strictly for contact be put on the Home page??-would make sense as I have asked for and said multiple times-Linda

Sploofus Editor
Sploofizz (Editor)  
Fri, 29th Feb '08 8:46 AM

We all agree this is a potential problem, and we are not ignoring it - we are currently discussing options...possibly a link on the log-in page to the Support Ticket system with an "I can't log-in" message. Right now your best bet is to contact another member at the Yahoo Sploofus Refugees list.

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Fri, 29th Feb '08 8:57 AM

Thanks!

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Fri, 29th Feb '08 9:14 AM

I agree with Linda - if you're paying to play, you should be given a way to contact Sploofus in the event you can't log in, other than a player-started website about which most players don't even know.

I think every website I use that is login and password specific has a button for that. Either a button where you enter your email and they resend you your log in information, or a contact technical support button.


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