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Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:09 PM


Okay I am at my wits end right now. The cat (which we took in about 3 weeks ago after the neighbors just moved and left it to fend for itself)has gotten into motor oil today while I was at work. Rob is gone to work and I have tried to bath the thing with Dawn and it has torn me up. I tried to get the pet wipe things and put Dawn on them and wipe him down and it's been an adventure in scratches. Does anyone have any tricks, tips or any advice for bathing this cat without it scratching me to death. It hates water....period and I think that while wrestling it earlier it may have hurt it's leg, it seems to be favoring one of it's hind legs now after our battle in the bathtub trying to give it a bath. It doesn't seem to be in pain, it's not yowling or carrying on, it just seems reluctant to put much wait on that back leg. It may have pulled something in the struggle. I have tried wrapping it in a towel and pulling one leg at a time out and washing it...LOL that didn't work. I put him in the tub and tried to hold him by the scruff of the neck and soap him up which ended up with an impressive set of scratches down my back, when it got it's claws into my shoulder deep and I let go of it in pain. Of course here it is Saturday night and no vets offices are open, and only a couple of vet clinics in the area and one wants $100 just to walk into the door and the other $125 just to walk in the door, plus the fees for any treatment, which you all know will be sky high. So anyone have any help at all. I'm going to keep going at it with the Dawn and see how much of it I can continue to get off.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:13 PM

We have pet places in town that have self wash pet stations. If you can find one, they might have some sort of rigging for subduing cats. Otherwise, you can call a groomer and ask. Since I have little tolerance for such matters, I would get a leash with a cat size harness collar and hose that sucker down in the yard. From a distance.

Eileeny  (Level: 70.6 - Posts: 240)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:21 PM

Do you have any lorazapam ?? Lol somebody I know gave her cat one as it was the same as yours made the cat dozy enough she did all the grooming and cat was fine after a nice sleep, . I must confess I would be afraid to do that to my cat for fear of something bad happening to him, actually she gave him half of one think it something prescribed for panic attacks not sure though??. Hope you find a solution soon

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:38 PM

Beer worked on our old Siamese. She lived to be 19 1/2 so it didn't do any harm I guess,
and NO,,,I did not make that up.

Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:49 PM

We use these pre-moistened wipes for pets. They aren't as effective as a bath, but do the trick for our hydrophobic animals, at least allowing more time between "real" baths. I get mine at the grocery store, but I think they are probably at any petsmart type place.

Our cat likes to hang out in the bathroom sink, but hates getting wet.

Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:52 PM

Please, whatever you do, DON'T give an animal a medication formulated for people. A medication designed for a 150 pound person will kill a 6-10 pound cat if given to it.
First, please get as much of the stuff on him off as soon as you can. A cat will clean himself by licking and will ingest all that crap.
Secondly, take a towel you will no longer use and rub off and absorb as much of the oil, and now Dawn, as you can.
Try one of those mesh lingerie bags with a zipper closure. At least you will have the poor thing enclosed and less able to run away.
If you have a double sink fill them with warm water.
Dunk him into the first and rub and work up as much lather as you can from all the stuff he has on him. Then dunk him into the next to rinse as much off as possible, then into another towel or blanket.
You can try a hair dryer to dry him off but they don't usually like the noise they make and it may be more stressful than useful. Let him dry, though, so you can see what progress you've made. Good luck to you both.

Lettermanfan1  (Level: 88.3 - Posts: 486)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:55 PM

I have used Bounce dryer sheets on my cat before. They worked pretty well.

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 9:58 PM

Linenlady trying the double sink method on a sober Siamese is a recipe for disaster.

Taco24  (Level: 140.5 - Posts: 589)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 10:10 PM

In the olden days when I volunteered at a shelter, a no-tug harness was used for difficult cats. The harness would be connected to the faucet in a sink. Worked well even though kitty made sounds non-wyop.

Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 10:19 PM

Harness!! Bingo....I have one of those for the dog that I think I can get done small enough to put on the cat and that will make it much easier to control the cat while I bath it because a wet slippery cat = No fun what so ever. I also searched around online and found someone mentioning putting cornstarch on the oily spots and rubbing it in and letting it sit for a few minutes to absorb the oil the wiping it off. Okay, back to the cat.

Winddancer41  (Level: 63.3 - Posts: 1113)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 10:39 PM

This is just a joke email forward i got the other day, so please don't try it, it is a joke. It said to put shampoo in the toilet bowl, put the cat in and close lid fast and sit on lid, then flush it five or six times then have some one open both doors front and back after last flush get up still holding lid down get in tub lean over and then quickly lift lid and duck or shut shower doors and that sucker will take off like he was shot out of a rocket.

Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 10:40 PM

I forgot to say Bless you Shawna for doing this for the poor creature, since I'm sure it will slip his mind too; and my best to Rob.
Donden, bathing any cat anywhere under any circumstances is a recipe for disaster. My Siamese, Bruno, who has been with me since he was 4 months old and has known nothing but love and caring still can only be approached when he's on my bed or the ironing/sunbathing board. The rest of the time I can't get near him. I can't even imagine giving him a bath.

Geophile  (Level: 167.4 - Posts: 1545)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 10:48 PM

Berylm raises champion cats and helped me with my Maine Coon cat's oily might get in touch with her. Our orange tabby weighs 24 lbs. and NOBODY has volunteered to wash him! Then there is always a groomer - pity the poor groomer that gets him. Good luck!

Smaug  (Level: 144.7 - Posts: 2765)
Sat, 1st Mar '08 11:51 PM

I'd tape his paws up in gauze, get thick garden gloves and take him in a shower with a door.

Works on my wife.

Stone  (Level: 35.0 - Posts: 259)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 12:30 AM

I have used benedryl on my cats for years. the vets i have used suggested it. I also bathed my cats when needed. it is hard but can be done. helps to have pitcher of rinsing water ready or shower hose. if you have baby shampoo, try that. make sure you wrap cat well in towel to keep warm and keep cat covered with blankets. hold cat if possible. change to dry towel often to dry cat. my cats could never stand blow dryer. keep it inside unless warm out. i hope you get this in time to help.

Nelly  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1167)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 4:36 AM

I agree with Linenlady - be very, very wary of giving anything not prescribed by the vet. Benzodiazepenes such as diazepam (valium) can suppress the respiratory system and cause death. You even have to be careful with vet prescribed tranquillisers - cats generally are not as good at tolerating painkilling/sedative meds. One of mine was prescribed 1/2 an ACP tablet for travelling once - he was OK but his character changed, very subdued, for about 2 weeks afterwards!

I have had no option but to bathe some cats after they've got covered in oil (unfortunately they like sitting under cars!) - some tolerate it better than others. I was concerned about the amount of oil they would ingest. I haven't had a cat yet that actually liked a bath, even though some will sit playing with a dripping tap! On occasion, it has been a case of strong gauntlets (really tough, long ones) and a padded jacket for me! If you can get away without a bath all the better. The cat will get very stressed, so you really need to be very quick. (It would obviously be easier with 1 person to hold and 1 to wash - unfortunately I didn't have anyone to assist).

As far as a hairdryer goes - if they've been stressed by the bath, just wait until you try a hairdryer!!! When one of mine was about 10 months old I tried that. I'd had her since she was 7 weeks old and she's a really friendly/chilled cat - she twisted round in 1 second, claws everywhere and sunk her teeth through to the bone in the back of my hand! It swelled up badly, despite being on antibiotics and I still have the scar! My vet said you should always get antibiotics with a cat bite near the bone because it can get very nasty (he was right!) -I happened to be on them at the time anyway, but still got checked out and still had a problem!

We're the best of friends; it wasn't her fault (it's taken her 6 years to tolerate even being in the same room when I'm drying my hair). Ever since, it’s usually been a case of turning the heating/fire up and sweltering until the cat’s dry - yet again Cat 1, Owner 0! The ability of a cat to summon up extreme strength to defend itself, even when really weak and sick, never ceases to amaze me. They can be formidable opponents - especially if they think you're trying to poison them with a pill!

In over 30 years, with up to 9 rescue cats at a time, I’ve never had a cat like this one!

Good luck!

Kimoira  (Level: 213.0 - Posts: 1195)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 5:15 AM

Stone just curious- what dose of Benadryl did they tell you to give to the cat?

Nelly  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1167)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 5:30 AM

Kim - see this link:

Gives you the dosages. Never tried it myself. Note the precautions/side efects in case your cat has any of those conditions or is on other drugs.

Kimoira  (Level: 213.0 - Posts: 1195)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 6:19 AM

Thanks for the link Karen. Definitely something to use much caution with!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 6:29 AM

Nelly, glad you posted the link. I would have if no one else did. But even so, that doesn't mean the cat in the video likes to be held in water or lathered up! I'd love to know.

I'm not sure baby shampoo would really do enough good on the oil.

I've tried the $100 walk-in vet. Took the money and did nothing!!!!! Another $240 the next day with the family vet. Definitely save your money and don't go for the night doc.

Do they have those big plastic collars for cats so he can't lick the oil? If so, grab one of those and keep him in a contained area till off to the vet/groomer (to check the leg) - that's gotta be the safest bet.

Good luck!

Eileeny  (Level: 70.6 - Posts: 240)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 7:34 AM

I agree whole heartedly with people about the non use of human medications on pets, the alternative to that is to just go and ask a vet for something to calm kitty down, as long as you know the weight they will generally give it to you without seeing kitty, may cost you a lot less than a actual visit with kitty. Good luck hope that you get something figured out..

Geophile  (Level: 167.4 - Posts: 1545)
Sun, 2nd Mar '08 1:43 PM

Ha! If you think they go nuts with water, try the Elizabethan collar! Our cat wormed his way out somehow after his eye operation with near disatrous results. Trying to get it back on was a gesture in futility. We found a soft collar you can blow up for his latest ear operation and he didn't mind it too much. Dogs always look pathetic and subdued when they are being treated - cats are another story. If their maniacal looks could kill we'd be dead.

1mks  (Level: 219.5 - Posts: 5925)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 10:09 AM

Toilet AND Cat Cleaning Instructions:

1. Put both lids of the toilet up and add 1/8 cup of pet shampoo to the water in the bowl.

2. Pick up the cat and soothe him while you carry him towards the bathroom.

3. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids. You may need to stand on the lid.

4. The cat will self agitate and make ample suds. Never mind the noises that come from the toilet, the cat is actually enjoying this.

5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a 'power-wash' and rinse'.

6. Have someone open the front door of your home. Be sure that there are no people between the bathroom and the front door.

7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids.

8. The cat will rocket out of the toilet, streak through the bathroom, and run outside where he will dry himself off.

9. Both the commode and the cat will be sparkling clean

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 10:16 AM

I hadn't intended on washing any of the cats until I read that one. Thanks Marsha.

Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 6:17 PM

Finally! My toilet will be clean at last!!

Thanks, Marsha!

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 7:33 PM

Shawna - do you have an update for us?

Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 9:02 PM

Update, I got as much of the oil off the cat as possible. What was white isn't white now, because I honestly couldn't fight him and get him to hold still long enough to rub and get his paws good which is where most of the oil seemed to be concentrated. He seems to be fine, no vomiting, no diarrhea, no obvious breathing issues, he's eating and drinking fine. He seems fine other than he looks dirty, so I am hoping that I got the majority of it off and that he will be alright as the stuff wears off of him. I think we have had enough trauma in the house for a while, well until the 14th when I'm taking him to get neutered and get all his shots because I'm sure his previous owners couldn't be bothered with such things. However that's a whole different trauma than being forced into water and being soaped up. Then the trauma to me with all the scratch marks down my back, belly and arms.....LOL I thought about using some human meds to calm him down but decided against would be too easy to overdose him and I didn't want to do that. Right now he is curled up on the back of the couch above my head sleeping, which seems to be one of his favorite places here lately....either their or laying across my legs all night long. Guess he wants to keep an eye on me so I don't try a sneak attack on him and try to bath him while he's sleeping or something.

Leeze83  (Level: 35.2 - Posts: 70)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 9:27 PM

really not a problem i've had. My kitten loves getting in the shower with me. I cant work out if he's a pervert, or just likes chasing the water down the drain

Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Mon, 3rd Mar '08 9:58 PM

He's a lucky kitty, Shawna. This might be the time to try the cornstarch. That could be sprinkled on and maybe combed or brushed in. Giving him Pounce or other treats while you do it might buy you a little time to get it on him and worked in.

Nelly  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1167)
Tue, 4th Mar '08 2:35 PM

Sounds like he's settled in anyway, Shawna. I'm sure he'll be fine now you've got the worst off. Hope you'll be very happy together

Salzypat  (Level: 161.6 - Posts: 5414)
Tue, 4th Mar '08 4:14 PM

Want to hear another cat story? Of course you do, since only cat lovers would bother reading this thread anyway.

Sunday about 4 a.m. my dogs wanted out. They immediately ran to the front gate and started raising a ruckus. I ran up there to find they had a kitten cornered in the yard. It didn't try to run away but it sure did hiss and spit and snarl at them - enough that 2 German shepherds and a chocolate lab backed off. I got the dogs back in the house, grabbed the cat carrier and went out to get the kitten. It was still in the corner meowing as if waiting for me. I picked it up and could feel it was almost starved to death; it was just skin and bones. I put the carrier in my bathroom and shut the doors to keep the thundering herd out. It didn't seem much interested in food but drank water readily as if about to die literally from thirst.

In mid-afternoon I open the crate door to let the kitten out to roam and that's when I saw its front paw. from the bottom of its paw about halfway up was black and mangled. I put it back in the crate and got on my e-mail asking members of the humane society where I am a member if they knew of one of the vets in town who would come in on Sunday and euthanize the kitten so it wouldn't have to suffer until morning.

One member called and said not to do anything with the kitten yet, she knew someone who worked miracles with handicapped cats. She gave me a number to call. The lady who answered asked me to bring the kitten over right away.

When I got there, she took the kitten out of the carrier and held it snugly while it struggled in fright for about 2 seconds and then settled in quietly. This woman works part-time for a vet in town. She kept the kitten overnight and the next day the veterinarian amputated the leg up to the shoulder. They said the kitten had its paw out the bars of the crate trying to get someone to play with it. Last I heard the kitten was doing great.

Actually it isn't a kitten. They think the cat is about a year old but just so badly malnourished that its growth may be stunted.

And this lady who has taken the kitten into her home has another 3-legged cat and I am just positive she told me she has a one-legged cat that hops like a bunny!

This kitten is a beautiful Siamese and if it survives this ordeal and gains some weight, it will be a beautiful, loving cat. I figure any cat that's willing to fight off 3 dogs and survived as long as it did with gangrene in its leg (which is what I was told was wrong with the leg), deserves a fighting chance.

Yesterday morning a lady called another member of the humane society group and wanted to make a donation and so my friend asked her since she had 3 cats herself if she would like to have the donation to go towards the vet bill for saving this kitten. She was thrilled to agree to that.

I told my friend that all Sunday I kept saying, "Why me, God, why me?!" (cause I sort of 'find' these lost causes fairly often). My friend replied it's because there's a little sign outside my front yard that only can be seen by furry creatures and it reads "Kind-hearted person lives here. OK to stop." I know there are some of you who are in exactly the same boat. If you can figure out how to find that sign, let me know so I can remove it!

Anyway, that's my warm fuzzy for the day.

Nelly  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1167)
Tue, 4th Mar '08 4:21 PM

WTG Pat. I know there's know way you or any of the other animal lovers here would remove that sign. Hopefully you got to that cat in time. Cats manage really well on 3 legs - even managing to climb trees! I do hope it makes it - please post any updates.

Linenlady  (Level: 159.1 - Posts: 306)
Tue, 4th Mar '08 5:50 PM

Pat, please pass on the name of the vet and I will send a donation to help pay for the surgery.

Smeans  (Level: 109.2 - Posts: 301)
Tue, 4th Mar '08 6:24 PM

*nods at Pat* Yep, I think everyone in the neighborhood knows that either myself or my co-worker LeeAnn will take in the mistreated animals of the neighborhood. We often find ourselves in the position of finding homes for animals. We are both softies when it comes to animals. LeeAnn was going to take the cat in but her cat and this one fought something fierce and she told me she couldn't keep it and asked if I would take it in since it had been abandoned. I wasn't sure about it at first because I didn't know how the dog would react to it. Turns out the dog is fine with it as long as Rob isn't petting it and then the dog gets jealous as can be.

I hope the kitty has a great recovery and has a happy life with his new owner.

Salzypat  (Level: 161.6 - Posts: 5414)
Fri, 7th Mar '08 3:41 AM

I have posted a photo of the rescued kitty -- now with three legs -- on my profile for any of you who are interested in seeing her. She is a beautiful kitty and once she gains some weight she'll really thrive. The lady who is nursing her back to health is really awesome with cats. I think eventually her mother will take the cat, but she's a long ways away from leaving home.

Nelly  (Level: 179.8 - Posts: 1167)
Fri, 7th Mar '08 6:40 AM

She's beautiful Pat. She should have no problem finding a home!

Papajensai  (Level: 201.7 - Posts: 1024)
Fri, 7th Mar '08 9:52 PM

How about another cat story?

In 1992, a carload of friends of my daughter, who was then in high school, left Philadelphia to drive to our home, then in northern Indiana. On their way out of town they saw a little kitten lying in the gutter, apparently dead. As they passed by, she raised her head. The kids stopped and found a badly injured Siamese kitten. They put her in a box with some padding and brought her all the way to our house, about 600 miles.

They arrived early in the morning, and my daughter sneaked in my room and put the box by my bed and woke me up to see the kitty. We already had 5 rescued cats, and she was hurt so badly, that I got up and took her to the vet, thinking she needed to be euthanized. She had a displaced fractured femur, multiple rib fractures, and a partially collapsed lung. She was in pain, very alert, and kept looking at me with those piercing blue eyes. The vet said he would do what I wanted, but he thought she could recover. He thought she was 6 to 8 weeks old. So, 200 bucks later, I took a tiny Siamese kitten with blue eyes and a red coban cast on her hind leg which seemed longer than her entire body length.

Within 2 days she was gimping around on the cast, and she did survive and grew up into a beautiful blue eyed chocolate point. The picture of the three-legged cat reminds me of her a lot. She arrived at our house on the day Marlene Dietrich died, and I named her Lili, after Lili Marleen. All the other cats considered my wife to be their human, and only tolerated me. Lili knew she belonged to me, and seemed a bit jealous of my wife. I couldn't sit down in our home without her jumping up into my lap (Lili, not my wife!), and she was usually at the back door waiting for me when I'd get home from work.

Last year she died peacefully, 15 years after I took her to the vet for euthanasia.

Salzypat  (Level: 161.6 - Posts: 5414)
Sat, 8th Mar '08 3:55 AM

Awwww, what a story. I just love happy endings. It shows what a kind heart you have. Sometimes we never know why certain animals are put into our lives. She obviously gave you and your family a great deal of joy, repaying you for your help in the beginning.

Alvandy  (Level: 240.4 - Posts: 7692)
Sat, 8th Mar '08 6:57 AM

I enjoyed this thread.
Rjenson's story is very touching, and is very familiar sounding.

My wife used to serve on the SPCA Board- our house has been a haven for stray unwanted pets for a long time.

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