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joee
Joee  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 255)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 8:04 AM

BOMBER ALERT

I just saw something interesting. Have you ever seen a "bomber alert" in bright red writing on a players profile page. Someone sent me a message to say that my quiz was the worst quiz they have ever taken so I looked on their profile page. They're new to Sploofus and their average rating of other people's quizzes is "1". And they've taken 65 quizzes so far.


heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 8:17 AM

There are hateful folks everywhere. Have seen that alert a few times-don't believe their rating is counted once that label is officially attached to them-sorry it happened to you as know quizzes take time and effort to create-Linda

oldcougar
Oldcougar  (Level: 220.4 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 8:50 AM

Just did your Silly Songs quiz, fun. Ignore the fool

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 8:55 AM

They're fickle. Thought I had the worst. Hmph!

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 9:33 AM

I've seen it before, and I agree I think it happens more with newer players. Although, I don't give a new player a pass for sending an author a snarky comment.

christiansinger
Christiansinger  (Level: 93.7 - Posts: 61)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 12:20 PM

I was told mine was the worst some time last year by an individual who couldn't spell or write a coherent sentence. Oh, well. . .I tried to carry on as best I could with all my grief and sorrow about putting him through all that pain and suffering while he took my quiz.

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.6 - Posts: 1391)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 12:39 PM

Bombers SHOULD be labeled. Maryland is considering a license plate that ID's drunk drivers. We already have sex offenders listed on the internet and registered so schools can watch out.

I think the more colorful the better. I also think the moniker could travel with the handle so that one would not have to bother looking up the profile. Almost always, the profile has no picture and no real name and little other details. Bombers were immortalized by Run-D.M.C. on their 1986 album.

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 12:42 PM

Allena, you are da bomb.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.1 - Posts: 3778)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 1:29 PM

Quiz rating bombers were a big problem at one time. They are still around, but do not seem as common as they once did. Several of us complained about them to Justin a long time ago. He developed a system that tags them, and it also deletes their rating from your quiz. You still get the points, but your quiz rating is no affected by their childish behavior.

foogs
Foogs  (Level: 267.9 - Posts: 848)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 1:52 PM

As someone who grades for a living, what's the purpose of
having a 10-point scale if you're only going to use 40 percent
of it? If giving someone anything less than a six is considered
unfriendly, just make the scale: Excellent (10), Good (9),
Fair (8) and Needs Work (7). Then we can all be above average.

I think I've given a 5 in the past, but my profile says my
average score is close to 8. Quizzes get by easier than my
students.

foogs
Foogs  (Level: 267.9 - Posts: 848)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 1:56 PM


Sorry. I just looked again at my profile and my average score is 6.5
over the course of 2,164 quizzes. Does that make me a bomber?

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 2:25 PM

No, I don't think so. I don't think this would be much of a deal if the amount of points you get for each quiz taken weren't tied directly to the rating. On a recent quiz that was launched, I noticed the average rating for a newbee quiz taker is 4.0 - which is halfway between decent (5) and needs work (3). When I checked the quiz rating later, with about 30 people taking it, it was about 7.5+. It's all relative, and nothing worth losing sleep over...

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 2:29 PM

Why rate the quizzes at all? The scale set by Justin is 1 thru 9. If this is the scale then a 1 should be just a acceptable as a 9. Don't whine about 1's, eliminate them if they are so evil. I like being able to give whatever rating I choose within the scale. If it's a valid rating then what's the problem? You say bomber like it's a bad thing. If we aren't going to have the freedom to place a valid rating as we see fit, then why have ratings at all?

redwingchick
Redwingchick  (Level: 91.1 - Posts: 420)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 4:40 PM

Yeah but this person took 65 quizzes and his AVERAGE rating was 1! That means he gave them all a 1! Giving an occasional bad rating for a quiz is one thing but giving a 1 to every quiz is bullcrap.

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.6 - Posts: 7570)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 4:55 PM

The bomber [s] crave attention.
Flag 'em and send them to other web sites.
Sploofus Island is for lovers. [maybe platonic at least]
Good riddance.


taco24
Taco24  (Level: 131.3 - Posts: 589)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 5:12 PM

Is there a way to detect who the "bomber" is if a message is not sent?



joee
Joee  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 255)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 6:35 PM

Glad to know that his rating doesn't apply. And I agree with Redwingchick that giving 65 1's is hardly valid. I've not taken even one quiz that I felt deserved a "1" let alone 65.

redwingchick
Redwingchick  (Level: 91.1 - Posts: 420)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 6:53 PM

Also, some bombers probably know that our points earned are based on our ratings. They want to make sure we get less points so they can overtake us on the leaderboard. Ridiculous.

joanneeberlin
Joanneeberlin  (Level: 184.5 - Posts: 686)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 8:02 PM

I think all the quizzes deserve a good rating because I feel that it is a lot of hard work producing all these wonderful quizzes for us fellow sploofusers - keep up the good work everyone - you all deserve a 9 in my books!

Jo

taco24
Taco24  (Level: 131.3 - Posts: 589)
Sun, 9th Mar '08 8:20 PM

Redwingchick

Thanks. I knew there had to be an agenda somewhere.

“Cruelty, like every other vice, requires no motive outside of itself; it only requires opportunity” George Eliot

revdodd
Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 6:03 AM

I've never given any test lower than a 5. Here's why:

If we are indeed to consider rating quizzes the same as grading papers, then a perfect quiz would be a 10. Since we can't go that high, 9's the best we can do ... and I've seen MANY quizzes that would rate a 10 were it possible.

That moves the failing grade for a quiz down to 6.

In my mind putting the effort into creating and send the quiz is enough to earn points. The only failing grades come when someone is truly mailing it in, as in "Here's a quiz about stuff in my car trunk."

If someone puts any research, creativity or at least order in a quiz, it deserves a passing grade.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 6:53 AM

I tend to consider a 7 to be the jumping off point for rating a quiz. If it appears that an extra amount of work went into it, or it was unusually clever or I learned a whole lot, or laughed a lot I go up from there. However, if I know that none of the answers to a particular question are correct, which happens more than it should, I do go down - but I don't think I have ever given below a 6. I just took the Parsley quiz - I got a 30 - but I gave the quiz a 9. I thought the choices were brilliant, obviously well thought out, and that they took real effort.

I do not take the quizzes that I think I would score lower - for example, since I know nothing about popular music, I totally stay away from the endless lists of "Top songs of XXXX". If I did take them, and they were just something like "who sang..." I would probably grade lower because the only effort they require is finding the list. When Fill-in-the-blank quizzes were around I stayed away from those too.

Alice

alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.6 - Posts: 7570)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 6:55 AM

I've been a member of Sploofus for about 5 months.
I haven't authored any quizzes yet, but when the spirit strikes me, I'll be excited
to see how the other players respond.

I just hope there are no bombers around then.
================================

Oh, thanks for that last suggestion.

I was thinking of calling one of my quizzes- "What's in my car trunk?"
Close call.

revdodd
Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 11:31 AM

Well, Alvandy, if the contents of your car trunk include Jimmy Hoffa or the money from D.B. Cooper, you'd have a winner!

Looking forward to when my work isn't devouring my quiz-creating time again....

allena
Allena  (Level: 255.6 - Posts: 1391)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 12:52 PM

Felix, you defend your right (which is legitmate) but you rate an average 7.5. That's fair!

The problem comes from those who have never written a quiz and had their own quiz rated. Look at raters with a lower average rating given than gotten and you will normally find a person who started rating in the early days (dark ages) when a 5 was average.

Alvandy has a good idea. A Flagged pubicity thread. Unfortunately, we have little way to spot them. Should we have such a list of infamy, we could bomb back in unison. Bet that would knock out the snarl.

eesusbejesus
Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 12:57 PM

Are most bombers non-paying members? Just curious.

felix
Felix  (Level: 109.3 - Posts: 2500)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 6:48 PM

Allena, I can only speak for myself. I have only written quizzes for two reasons. 99% have been written because I enjoyed writing them. I have never thought of it as work, or that I deserved a certain mark from any other Sploofer for any reason. I have never sat with a calculator and tabulated points off of a quiz. I have never been disappointed about ratings or comments for takers. My problem is that I don't like anyone telling me how to rate any other players quiz. A 7.45 is respectable, but I have enjoyed 'bombing' as well.

If the norm is to give every quiz a 9 so that everyone can feel warm and fuzzy in the inside then why rate at all. I reserve the right to vote within the scale given as and when I choose. There are several people who know that I have bombed them and have bombed me. BFD! It's only a game. Points do not necessarily equate to being the amount of trivia knowledge one has. Some people have lives and don't live on this Wonderful Island full time. How encouraging is it to join Sploofus today and realize that with a mere billion points you can be in the top 100. How many points is enough?

I have remained here mostly for the chat as it offers a great opportunity to be a horses butt on a regular basis. If I believed everything that I said in chat, I would have a room reserved in Hell on the level usually set aside for lawyers and mother-in-laws. It's fun to incite spirited debate as long as we all respect everyones right to express their view whether we agree with them or not.

Yeah having a dooky pot load of points is cool, but what does it mean? Really? The second reason why I would write a quiz is to make a statement or throw a jab at someone. Please do not take my older quizzes as their cryptic meaning may be mistaken as a quiz that sucks.

Tolerating the Irish for over 50 years,

Felix

joee
Joee  (Level: 156.4 - Posts: 255)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 8:04 PM

The rating is meant to be for "content". So even if the bomber didn't like my quiz or scored low the content was good and more challenging for kids than most, so he should have given me a higher score than 1. Possibly the other 64 were only worth the 1 that he gave them.

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 8:11 PM

BOMBERS: Name 'em and shame 'em!


alvandy
Alvandy  (Level: 229.6 - Posts: 7570)
Mon, 10th Mar '08 9:12 PM

See a thread posted from an anonymous, very brave sploofer who has exposed the BOMBERS.

Discretion advised.

kravfighter
Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 563)
Tue, 11th Mar '08 12:23 AM

If a bomber's rating doesn't count towards your quiz rating then why the fuss??

fudypatootie
Fudypatootie  (Level: 197.3 - Posts: 1302)
Tue, 11th Mar '08 1:32 AM

I sat one day and took over 85 quizzes to get my monthly quiz taker rank in the top 100. Most of the quizzes were very good, but some just stunk. At the time, I had not yet discovered the chat forum and didn't know much about ratings and how it affected points. I gave a few 1's and other low scores.

I realize now that some of the quizzes I gave a 1 were probably written in the pre-editor days. They were full of capitalization and spelling errors, as well as factual errors. In addition, the description of the quiz did not properly prepare me for what was to come. I felt justified in giving a low score.

Now that I've been around a little longer and have come to "know" others on the island, I rarely give any quiz lower than a 7, but if I come across a quiz that asserts that the "capitol of Ilinnois is Chiccago" it's getting a crappy score.

scifidwarf
Scifidwarf  (Level: 140.8 - Posts: 249)
Wed, 12th Mar '08 12:22 PM

I believe the lowest score I have given is a 5. But I agree with Fudypatootie (Judy), if a quiz gives you the wrong answer it will get a low score. I have had wrong information before due to faulty resources but when I was called on it I did correct it. I just think people need to more careful (myself included).

barnierubble
Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Fri, 14th Mar '08 3:13 AM

Having set over 180 quizes in the year I have been at Sploofus, and taken a whole lot more, I can honestly say I have never looked at the ratings for my quiz, but I have given a few 1i, wish, sometimes, I could give 0. I took onr quiz, Q. 1 was"What is 10 + 1", Q.2 "what is 10 + 2" etc up to "10 + 10". Does anyone think this quiz deserves anything more than a 1. The Editor who passed it should have been strongly reprimanded as well. I tend to low mark obscure quizes, which no one has a real chance with, but I have also given my share of 9s to some good quizes. I reserve the right to use the whole scale, not just the top part, as sometimes "Crap" quizes are allowed through.

chickfbref1
Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2012)
Sat, 15th Mar '08 1:04 PM

Bump


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