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Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Wed, 28th Dec '05 3:40 PM


One player has a great round and legitimately gets all 5 puzzles with 25 moves in 400 seconds, missing 5 letters for a final score of 4,500 and a ranking of #8.
Then I come along and do the 5 puzzles in 52 moves in 1,500 seconds, missing 3 letters for a final score of 4,700 and a ranking of #90.
Player one gets his 300 ranking points, I get my 150.
Player one, who did the puzzles with half the moves in one third the time, ends up with 4,800 points, while I end up with 4,850.
Go figure.
Multiple intersecting levels of structural problems there, wouldncha think?

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Wed, 28th Dec '05 4:16 PM

I guess that's how they made it more fair for everyone. We all get basically the scame score no matter what. Participant points. Maybe they should do that with word rounds too since I'm having trouble getting those pages to load there's no WAY I can get scores in the teens and low twenties like some of the others.

Blaney  (Level: 77.1 - Posts: 48)
Wed, 28th Dec '05 4:19 PM

I looked at having only 1000 points previously. So I'm thrilled with anything over 4000.

Wed, 28th Dec '05 5:00 PM

"Multiple intersecting levels of structural problems" indeed! The largest of those problems are players who use multiple accounts to gain an unfair competitive advantage. At least now, their "advantage" does not give them such a tremendous boost in points.

As a Sploofuser once commented: 4 billion Sploofus points and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee. So why exploit the system anyway? Go figure.

WordPuzzles are about challenging yourself. Having fun. The Leaderboards are relative. The system is always open for change, as usage and necessity dictate.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3641)
Wed, 28th Dec '05 5:24 PM

I suppose the reason people do the multiple accounts and try to gain unfair advantages is because of the leaderboards. I know that when I joined Sploofus and ultimately made the decision to pay to play, there were indications of prizes and gift certificates for those with the highest scores. And because of those leaderboards, the scores, and the lure of prizes, people are no longer interested in just challenging themselves, but challenging and competing against their fellow sploofusers. Many are actually PAYING for the opportunity for extra challenges and therefor extra advantages against their neighbor. I like seeing where I stand against my peers. I like being able to take a quiz and see that I'm number one, even if its something as trivial as hits from the year 1982. So to say that the leaderboard is all relative seems contrary to some of the reasons that I joined Sploofus and bought a gold account. For the most part, I really really enjoy sploofus although there are some things that bother me. However, I am grateful that I have this chat forum where I can post my thoughts and converse with my fellow sploofusers, for tomorrow, I try to kick their butt in Word Rounds.

But I digress...

I agree with Jedley that those who do exceptionally well should be rewarded with exceptional points but I also agree with Sploofus that its all just for S & G's. Once Sploofus opens in Vegas, however, that's when it will get ugly.

Bigbird  (Level: 250.2 - Posts: 3345)
Wed, 28th Dec '05 10:05 PM

OMG!!!! So far I am #4 in tonight's WordPuzzle!! I guess there is an advantage to being old! Of course, certain people haven't taken it yet, at least not in their Smarter Name. It'll be interesting to see where I actually end up.

Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Wed, 28th Dec '05 11:30 PM

I agree with eesus.
Saying it's only about challenging yourself is kinda disingenuous, isnt it? Isnt it also about competition, for which we pay extra to be able to compete more and better?
We like sports and fairy tales and superhero movies because someone wins and someone loses because they deserve to. It's part of our sense of justice, achievement, it's built in to our school system, the workplace, democratic capitalism itself.

Question to Sploofus: if you acknowledge the existence of these multiple-account cheaters and can see that their accounts are coming from the same source, why not ban them so we can have a straight game rather than changing the game to accomodate them?

Thanks for listening!

Bigbird  (Level: 250.2 - Posts: 3345)
Thu, 29th Dec '05 7:02 AM

While I agree about the sense of competition, I don't see how you can ban these additional accounts. What if several people in the same household want separate accounts so that they can all play? I'm sure that happens a lot. How could Sploofus tell the difference between a single person having 2 accounts, and a husband and wife each having their own?

Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Thu, 29th Dec '05 8:23 AM

Good point.

Mamacurlyhead  (Level: 77.9 - Posts: 66)
Fri, 30th Dec '05 12:47 AM

I enjoy the word puzzles a whole lot more now with the new point system. Maybe it takes me a few more letters to figure out the answer but if I don't guess any wrong letters I get all 5000 points and one time I actually got all of those points and another I ended up in the top three which has not happened except maybe once. Before, I would just go for the maximum number of points filling in all of the letters after I had figured it out. This is way better.

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