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Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Thu, 5th Jan '06 9:49 AM


In the previous thread, Unsploofable points out some valid obstacles to the idea of a User Award, saying that the Top Ten are effectively that.
But the fact remains that the Top Ten do not in any way reflect quality, but popularity. Having had many quizzes there myself, I can testify that it is invariably my worst and/or most facile ones that make it to the Top Ten.
What we're asking for is a counterpart to the Editor's Award, awarded by us. With voting rights perhaps limited to players who have written more than X number of quizzes themselves?
See the difference?

Asdibbens  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 423)
Thu, 5th Jan '06 10:57 AM

When I made the top rated quiz suggestion (and I don't think I was the first to do that) I was thinking about sites like these short film sites (like Atom Films, I think) where the better films had a chance to be put in the most watched and the highest rated lists (and the really good ones, both). I definitely didn't want to take anything away from the editors, I think the award is their due for putting a lot of work into the site as volunteers, plus with their awards they can perhaps nudge and shape the way quizzes are written. Obviously, given the volume of material that they have to wade through some quality quizzes could slip through and go unnoticed. That's what I think this forum should be primarily for and perhaps we can just institute our own award in here. I think it could work like this. Nominate quizzes for a User's Choice Award in the subject heading. If the quiz gets like ten or twenty (or more?) people agreeing on the choice, then we'll say it won the award. Every week or so we can post links to the quizzes on our award list. Should people like this idea (or some modified version of it), I wouldn't mind doing the work of keeping the list current.

Bigbird  (Level: 249.1 - Posts: 3337)
Thu, 5th Jan '06 4:52 PM

I believe that I made the original suggestion, and I am going to repeat in this thread the same mechanism I suggested in the previous thread.

I don't know a thing about computer programming, but I would assume it would be possible to automatically track the number of "9s" any particular quiz receives. I sure don't give a lot of 9s, and I am sure most others do not, as well.

As soon as a quiz receives some predetermined 9-count (lets say 20), it would automatically receive a "User's Award".

I would think that this would be easy to do. If not, there could be a nomination box next to each quiz, which the taker could check off.

I would absolutely ban electioneering by the quiz author. I think it is downright ugly when people get on this forum and start to rave about their own wonderful quizzes. We probably all think our own are really good; no one needs to hear it from us.

That is what the User Award would be all about - hearing it from others!!


Asdibbens  (Level: 159.4 - Posts: 423)
Thu, 5th Jan '06 5:17 PM

I agree your proposal is better, but requires Sploofus to make some changes. Mine was kind of a low-tech do-it-ourselves sort of solution, which I sure could be improved. I still think the Editor's Awards would be like the Oscars - ours would be more like the Golden Globes.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Thu, 5th Jan '06 6:47 PM

I am behind the "Writer's Award". The really difficult thing behind the average rating is that everyone's idea of 9 is completely individual and therefore arbitrary.

If the writers of quizzes (whatever the random minimum is) agree that a quiz should be given an award, that is perfect. This allows for those who write them to show their appreciation for a job well done and there really is not an appropriate forum for that. I have posted once on the "Hit List" for the "Crappy Christmas" quiz, which knocked my socks off. But even that, I felt, was not honor enough.

I also agree that self-promotion on the "Hit List" really circumvents the whole idea of the forum.

To make this easy and I am no expert, if there were a Forum here entitled "Pick of the day" (or something to that effect). Every post title could have a date and each one of us could post the name of the quiz we took that day that we feel deserved special recognition(only one post per customer) and Sploofus could tally the votes and give that quiz the "Sploofus Silver" or "Sploofusers Choice Award"...whatever.

Just my 2 cents...Kelly

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Thu, 5th Jan '06 6:49 PM

P.S. Noticably absent from this thread is Sploofus...

I (we?) would really like to know your opinions on this....

Sploofus Editor
Sat, 7th Jan '06 1:26 PM

One thing you are forgetting is how many actual writers there are. As a quiz editor, I'm seeing everything that comes in (including the bad ones you guys fortunately never have to see). Believe me when I tell you that the vast bulk of quizzes are fill-in-the-blank style and simple movie list style. It rather makes it clear what types of quizzes are preferred by the majority of quiz writers. You guys have some great ideas and they're being heard and thought about, believe me, but it's more complicated than you think. I'll bet if ALL quiz writers were voting, you'd see "Friends Fill-in-the-blank #12" winning an award or some such. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Kimmie7448  (Level: 19.9 - Posts: 362)
Sat, 7th Jan '06 2:41 PM

Hmmmm....maybe a token system for each player (an allotment each week or something) to nominate quizzes of their choice for User Awards?

Bravegator  (Level: 152.0 - Posts: 428)
Sat, 7th Jan '06 3:02 PM

I am not sure the FITB are prefered by quiz writers (and yes..i wrote my share), They are MUCH quicker to write.You don't hace to spend a ton of time research, etc.

BUT they are far more popular with the quiz takers...I definetly got more hits with the FITB then some of the others I am much prouder of.



Kravfighter  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 565)
Sat, 7th Jan '06 5:11 PM

The other problem with a user award is that it could easily be exploited by Sploofusers who could open mulitple accounts and award "their own" quizzes with the points - unless the points only go to gold members. The dishonest folks are not likely to open multiple gold accounts.

Chickfbref1  (Level: 120.7 - Posts: 2011)
Sat, 7th Jan '06 11:23 PM

If we try to ponder all of the ways there are to "cheat" the system, all we would do is spend our lives investigating...and therefore miss out on the trivial (pun intended).

Not saying that this is a perfect universe...just wondering if there is a way to make it better.

Minizone  (Level: 13.7 - Posts: 8)
Sat, 14th Jan '06 8:01 PM

I am relatively new to the authoring part of Sploofus as I have only authored a handful of quizzes. I do agree we need to find a fair and definitive way to vote on quizzes.

Perhaps the editors, being the benevolent ones(sucking up intended )that say yea or nay to our quizzes could pick a handful of ones they see each week or month and post them in a special section on the main baord or just mentioning the authors in a user-mail or some such with a link to said quiz.

Now what criteria would be used to say one quiz is more deserving than another. Well creativity is obviously the first one. The subject as well as the material should represent creative thought. That way the simple fill-in-the-blanks are eliminated from the equation.

Secondly, how well the questions are worded should be included into that equation. The longest questions are not always the best, but grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc. etc. should be appropriate as well as the effectiveness of the question.

And lastly, quiz difficulty. I know of my quizzes, the 3 easiest ones, are the highest rated ones. My lowest rated one is my Games Games Games quiz, but it is by far the most difficult one I have created because of the obscurity of some of the games I used. The quizzes chosen don't necessarily all have to be the hardest if there is ample creativity and effectiveness provided. But like others have mentioned, the easiest ones typically get the best ratings because they have given the sploofuser more jackpot points for scoring well.

Anyway, if the editors are too busy, perhaps a panel of ten or twenty sploofusers can be selected to choose the ones they feel are deserving.

Those are just my two cents, hopefully they make sense and help out in whatever way possible.


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