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Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Sun, 25th May '08 5:53 AM

25 YEARS AGO, TODAY- MAY 25,1983

Today is a day I'll always remember in 1983. It was my wife's birthday (Happy birthday Deb) and a day I said Good-bye to a bunch of my old friends. My friends are still around, but we don't get together anymore. We used to joke and fool around a lot but we usually beat each other up and felt bad about it later. I don't miss my old friends, they are always finding new pals to do what I used to like to do. Doctors say I'm in much better health at 63 than I was at 38, hell, at 38 I had less than six months to live. A lot of people give me credit for staying away (totally clean) from the company I used to keep, I'm sorry I ever met them. I do want to apoogize to the people at Budweiser brewing and those Russian Vodka workers that got laid off when I quit seeing my friends, maybe they work for oil companies now. If you have friends like I used to, always respect each other because nothing good comes out of playing to rough.

Slicko  (Level: 223.9 - Posts: 1609)
Sun, 25th May '08 6:43 AM

Congrats Liam on an important milestone in life - there are a lot of folks including all your friends here on the island that are glad you left those other "friends" behind.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 25th May '08 7:05 AM

What an amazing gift to give. Not just to your wife, but to yourself. I raise my diet coke and drink in your honor. I bet your wife has never forgotten that particular birthday gift either.

I love posts like this. I'm having a Hallmark moment. Talk amongst yourselves.

Tresgatos  (Level: 201.7 - Posts: 4147)
Sun, 25th May '08 7:14 AM

Happy birthday to your wife, and congratulations, Liam, on finding new friends, and I'm really glad you're still here at 63 (and in good health!) so we can enjoy your company and your quizzes!

-- Geri

Erin0620  (Level: 77.2 - Posts: 737)
Sun, 25th May '08 7:19 AM

Happy birthday to both of you, Bill.

Barnierubble  (Level: 93.9 - Posts: 637)
Sun, 25th May '08 7:25 AM

Congratulations Bill, may you have long life, and many more SNOOKER questions LOL

Mplaw51  (Level: 176.9 - Posts: 1582)
Sun, 25th May '08 8:01 AM

You should certainly be proud of yourself. It took some courage to step away from the demons that had you under their control. Happy birthday to your wife and silver anniversary hurrays to you for 25 years of "clear" thinking!

Garrybl  (Level: 276.3 - Posts: 6610)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:08 AM

I'm assuming these guys were snooker players?

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:11 AM

World Class

Keithr81052  (Level: 142.1 - Posts: 147)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:16 AM

I congratulate you most heartily, you've walked a rough and rocky road, a long and lonely road, something most could not do nor understand, I know because I've been down that road myself. You should be proud and I hope you continue your winning ways,

Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:18 AM

Nice job!

It's great that you were able to do that.

Have a wonderful day with your wife and spend it together, doing whatever makes you happy. What a beautiful gift.

Happy Brithday, Mrs. Bill!

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:32 AM

Keith, I did most of it myself, because I wanted to and had family help. I went to eight mandantory AA meetings, but I think what really made it easy for me was ten visits to counselors and (best of all) psychiatrists. Them dudes have heard it all and you cannot BS any of them, I went to the eight meetings with my shrink(he was on his tenth year). This is just me, I do not attend AA, "To Depressing" and there are a lot of strange people there too.

Oldcougar  (Level: 217.3 - Posts: 1935)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:45 AM

Good for you Liam & Happy Birthday to the Missus

Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Sun, 25th May '08 9:46 AM

Lord love ya, Bill, and long may you run!

I've seen your old buddies break down more than one person,more than one marriage, more lives than I'd care to count.

Congrats on showing them the gate.

Keithr81052  (Level: 142.1 - Posts: 147)
Sun, 25th May '08 10:28 AM

Liam, like you I did myself, for myself when I finally had enough, I tried AA but I couldn't go and continually profess to be powerless, to me that was a self fulfilling prophecy, and in the end it's about making a committment to make the right choices and having the strength to keep your committment.

Chyenn  (Level: 200.8 - Posts: 1332)
Sun, 25th May '08 10:59 AM

Liam, congratulations. It takes a tremendous amount of strength and courage to change your lifestyle. You should be proud of your success. It's inspiring!

Thank you for sharing your happiness with us.

I wish you many more years of health and happiness.

Pennwoman  (Level: 152.3 - Posts: 2478)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:02 AM

Good to know that "one day at a time" and "fake it until you make it" works!

Debbie1957  (Level: 45.7 - Posts: 402)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:11 AM

I always knew that you could do it. You have a strong will and determination to prove to yourself it can be done. Making new friends here on sploofus island is fun. I want to thank everyone for the words of congratulations and encouragement and thank you all for the birthday wishes.

Mrs. Papermanbill

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:19 AM

Congrats, Liam, and Happy Birthday, Debbie. I'm happy for both of you!

Salzypat  (Level: 154.5 - Posts: 5295)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:29 AM

Congratulations! It took a great deal of courage to leave your "friends" behind and to share your success with us today. Thank you for including your Sploofus family in your 25th anniversary celebration. Who knows - there may be someone reading this today who needed to hear your encouraging message of success.

May you continue to enjoy the life you choose to live today.

And happy birthday, Mrs. Papermanbill. Many more lovely birthdays for you.

Phitzy1  (Level: 66.4 - Posts: 873)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:33 AM

Happy Birthday to you!

You don't look a day over 32!

Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:41 AM

Congratulations Liam! .. I'm so happy to hear that you had the will and strength to persevere and save your life and your marriage. Unfortunately, my children and I were not as important as the bottle. He' still around but, hasn't yet given it up. I left him new years 2000.

Eesusbejesus  (Level: 75.0 - Posts: 3645)
Sun, 25th May '08 11:58 AM

Mrs. Papermanbill is here too? OK, this is emotional overload for me. There's something different about this place. Its not just the games, its the community we have become. The fact that you can lay your soul open before all of these people you've never met, and still feel completely at ease - that you are amongst friends. This is truly something special. And I can attest from experience that the relationships we forge here run deep. The moment you lay eyes on one of your long time sploofus friends, it isn't like you're meeting someone new, which is what I thought would happen. You lay eyes on each other, grin, and pick up right where you left off in the shout. Its really amazing. Thanks Liam and Debbie for reminding us of that.

Little somethin' in my eye - gonna take a walk outside.

Papajensai  (Level: 190.3 - Posts: 1025)
Sun, 25th May '08 12:14 PM

Congratulations and all Best Wishes to both of you. I'm glad you could tell your story like that...glad you survived and that I was here to hear it. Feels like a big family. It's a cliche, but these terms get to be cliches because they are obvious and true.

Crazy4games  (Level: 122.3 - Posts: 1020)
Sun, 25th May '08 12:33 PM

Congrats Liam, and Happy Birthday Debbie!

Knerd  (Level: 99.0 - Posts: 1141)
Sun, 25th May '08 12:40 PM

I have several family members that struggle with that problem. Unfortunately not with the success that you have had. Congratulations to you and your wife!


Alvandy  (Level: 225.6 - Posts: 7527)
Sun, 25th May '08 12:41 PM

First- Happy Birthday to Debbie. MANY happy returns.
What an inspirational thread!
Even when a change in course seems obvious, having the courage to change can be daunting.
Liam showed courage,and faced his challenges head on.
If you have friends in all the wrong places- you need to find the right places.
Sploofus Island is one of them.

So congratulations to both of you.
This is one thread that won't be quickly forgotten.


Lettermanfan1  (Level: 88.3 - Posts: 486)
Sun, 25th May '08 1:50 PM

What an amazing gift for your wife (and yourself)! Being surrounded by people with the same old friends as yours, I am in awe of your strength! Blessings to you and yours!

Kaufman  (Level: 254.1 - Posts: 3936)
Sun, 25th May '08 4:08 PM

Happy birthday, Debbie, Happy rebirthday, Bill!

Nelly  (Level: 169.8 - Posts: 1167)
Sun, 25th May '08 4:32 PM

Happy Birthday Debbie! Congratulations Liam! Sounds like you have a wonderful family and I bet they're all so proud of you!

Toledosugar  (Level: 51.4 - Posts: 281)
Sun, 25th May '08 6:30 PM

Congratulations Liam and Happy Birthday Deb. My youngest son (46) is in end stage liver failure. He hasn't had a drink for a year and half but the damage is done. He also has hepatitis C. He's on the transplant list but the outcome doesn't look good. It took him a long time to get the wake-up call. Now, he just wants to see his daughters grow up, graduate and get married. His lovely wife has stood beside him through it all and I bless her every day.

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