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tjwgct
Tjwgct  (Level: 126.5 - Posts: 148)
Tue, 17th Jan '06 6:19 PM

WORD PUZZLES?

Ok, so what's the consensus...I'm curious to know what ya'll think about using google for the word puzzles. I did for the Oscar puzzle and after reading previous postings feel like a bit of a cheat. Never much thought of it as cheating till now. Just curious to what the 'majority' thinks...

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Tue, 17th Jan '06 6:37 PM

In my opinion (and no offense intended): That is definitely cheating.

Will

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Tue, 17th Jan '06 7:51 PM

I can easily see how the "Use Google" method could be considered fair, since it is equally available to everyone, as you say. But I think the whole point of Sploofus is to use what's in our heads to solve puzzles and quizzes, not use our Google research skills.

Will

tjwgct
Tjwgct  (Level: 126.5 - Posts: 148)
Tue, 17th Jan '06 8:03 PM

From here on out, no google for me...it really is no fun being 'called' a 'cheater'. I'd rather do it the old-fashion, honest way...

Trish

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Tue, 17th Jan '06 8:35 PM

Trish, I hope I was very clear in my reply that I believe you acted in good faith...In fact, that good faith is evidenced by the fact that you asked! So no "cheater" label from me!

Will

tjwgct
Tjwgct  (Level: 126.5 - Posts: 148)
Tue, 17th Jan '06 9:08 PM

No, I was referring to the folks talking earlier about poeple who obvoiusly cheated as they had finished under ten moves...that included me...I'm not sure when I developed such a conscience!!!



citrusy
Citrusy  (Level: 26.2 - Posts: 118)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 7:05 AM

I don't 'Google' (you can read my post in Jellicle Cats). I would rather see what this brain knows already than what I can research on the net. I think my highest on Word Puzzles has been 27th and I think that is damn good!!
But for those who do...why should I care???

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.4 - Posts: 3302)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 7:23 AM

I wouldn't Google myself, but I actually don't have a problem with someone else doing it. I think in most cases the range of answers would still be very wide - as in the case of oscar winning actresses, for example. Jellicle cats, I guess would have a smaller range.

That's why I think time should come into play. To my mind, players with scores up in the thousands have either been called to the bathroom (ahem, have you taken my History of Toilet Paper quiz?) or are spending time looking things up.

I do believe that the majority of those with the incredibly low scores are getting their answers a different way though - or shall I say from a different name?

Alice

tjwgct
Tjwgct  (Level: 126.5 - Posts: 148)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 8:13 AM

I should also add that I don't do it very often, but it seemes like the logical thing to do with such a finite list like oscar winning actresses. neer again though (as should be reflected in my scores!!!).

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 11:01 AM

I once had a nice low score on a Word Puzzle and a 45 minute (yes, minute!) time...There were a few factors, but no looking things up. For one thing, it was a Star Trek puzzle so I was DETERMINED to do well on it (just look at my list quizzes authored). So I'd guess a letter and then stare and think for quite some time. BUT, I also got about six phone calls while taking the darn puzzle! So low scores and high times don't always mean Googling.

Will

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 4:41 PM

I have not done any Google searches during a WP, but I don't have a problem with other folks doing that. After all, we do research when authoring our quizzes, to make sure of the accuracy of our data.....can it be wrong to research before doing a quiz or WP? Hmmm.......*Pondering*

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 7:15 PM

My own opinion is that there's nothing wrong with doing some research BEFORE taking a quiz or WP. It's just doing it during the quiz or WP, when you have specific clues, that I think is at least a form of cheating.

Will

machiabelly
Machiabelly  (Level: 136.2 - Posts: 190)
Wed, 18th Jan '06 8:32 PM

Cheating is breaking the rules. There is no rule against looking things up. Therefore it is not cheating. You can argue that it is against the spirit of the site, the spirit of competition, or pretty much anything you want, but until it is against the rules it is not cheating.

redbaron
Redbaron  (Level: 198.3 - Posts: 296)
Thu, 19th Jan '06 12:04 AM

Fair 'nuff, Machiabelly! Point well taken...

Will


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