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Johnbtv  (Level: 276.1 - Posts: 206)
Tue, 1st Jul '08 11:41 AM


Somebody wrote to me about this last year and I think I may have come up with the wrong explanation.

OK, here it is, nearly 12 hours into the FIRST day of a new month. There have been, at MOST, two WordPuzzles on the site during the current month. Those would be the current puzzle that BEGAN at 8:00 AM EDT and that puzzle that BEGAN last night (June 30) at 8:00 PM.

I completed the 8:00 PM puzzle with, I believe, a score somewhat less than the maximum 5,000 points. OK, so far, so good. My score on the leaderboard is 221 points and I find myself in 212th place. I suppose it's possible that I completed the earlier puzzle before midnight and the "somewhat less than the maximum 5,000 points" were credited to June.

Now, the person in Number 1 position has 10,500 points, indicating completion of at least TWO puzzles. Those two must be the 8:00 PM from last night AND the 8:00 AM from this morning.

So, what this appears to mean is if the last puzzle of a month is completed before midnight, the points go to the month in which the puzzle was posted. Otherwise, they go to the following month.

This leads to the conclusion that the Leaderboard position could be meaningless as the point total appears to be TIME COMPLETED-focused as opposed to PUZZLE INITIATION-focused. In other words, if somebody waits until midnight or later to complete the last puzzle of a month, they can ostensibly be several thousand points ahead on the Leaderboard for the entire following month.

I would suggest a scoring system for the Leaderboard that assigns the points to the month in which the puzzle first appears. So, scoring for a particular month would accumulate from the 8:00 AM puzzle on the FIRST day of the month through the 8:00 PM puzzle on the last day of the month.

If my logic is flawed, please let me know where the flaw is!




Bigdavy  (Level: 141.9 - Posts: 539)
Tue, 1st Jul '08 11:57 AM

Hi John,

By Initiation time, do you mean the time the player starts taking the puzzle?

If you mean when the player starts the puzzle, the 8 p.m. puzzle was available until 7:59 a.m. this morning. So if a person began taking the 8 p.m. puzzle any time after midnight, then I think their points would go toward July. So in this case using the player's start time rather than completion time would still allow players to start their WP after midnight, if they want to push their points into the new month.

This could be done as a strategic move by some players, since their points will either be in one month or the other. (They won't be counted twice.)

Bigdavy  (Level: 141.9 - Posts: 539)
Tue, 1st Jul '08 11:58 AM

After re-reading your post, it seems that by Initiation time, you mean the time the puzzle was first posted. Sorry that I misunderstood!

Tresgatos  (Level: 217.3 - Posts: 4447)
Tue, 1st Jul '08 4:27 PM

Hi John,
This has been talked about before, but unfortunately I can't find the thread(s) -- (we need a search function for the forum). Anyway, I agree that since last night's WP was designated for June 30, everyone's points for taking that WP should go toward their June total, not their July total. I took last night's WP after midnight, for example, so I'm going to have what I consider June points mixed in with July points. Obviously this gives me an advantage on the leaderboard over anyone who took the WP before midnight. So, yeah, the leaderboard can be misleading, and I can see how it could be frustrating for anyone who took the June 30 WP before midnight. I don't know if the system can be adjusted for this problem, so you might want to submit an enhancement request.

-- Geri

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