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Smaug  (Level: 140.7 - Posts: 2772)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 6:07 PM


We got my son's HS grades today. They were a disaster. He is in line for a full ride scholarship based on a 3.0 GPA, and he pulled a 2.998. Honest to god.

It may be that the GPA is not the one year, and his other measures, cumulative, weighted, etc, are fine. And I'm not sure what mitigating factors they might consider, he was MVP of the baseball team and he pulled a perfect 800 in the writing SAT.

My question is, is there any precedent for having a teacher review a grade in a situation like this?



Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 6:23 PM

I would think he should get a push. If it was Sploofus University, he'd be out.

Smaug  (Level: 140.7 - Posts: 2772)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 7:25 PM


Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 7:40 PM

He means editors would have no mercy and your kid would end up cleaning toilets if it was up to them.

I speak fluent Liamese.

M2c2c2  (Level: 52.1 - Posts: 24)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 7:45 PM


Serious question here.

Smoke20  (Level: 62.6 - Posts: 2815)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 7:51 PM

And that was a serious answer to what I took to be a question.

Good luck.

Bbear  (Level: 159.3 - Posts: 2301)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 8:00 PM

First of all, we have all missed you. Where you been?

Second of all you certainly can request a review of the grades (maybe pick the one class where he was really on the cusp and was "just short" of the next higher grade. Explaining the situation to the principal may also help tweak the GPA up a bit.

Been there done that with one of my own and it worked. Louisiana has a TOPS program that gives free tuition in the state schools and she was just under by a tish and got bumped up by writing a paper over the summer.

Try it.

Missed you! I've written a few things that you should have slashed with your bit, wit and sarcasm and you weren't there to tear me to shreds!

Bigbird  (Level: 236.1 - Posts: 3300)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 8:05 PM

It sure sounds as if someone would be able to come up with that itty bitty point; but from my 34 years in a classroom, I'm just suggesting that you figure out your approach before you get to the school. We used to have parents coming up all the time - screaming, sometimes even with lawyers. It was offensive and none of that type ever got anything out of any of us.

You do have to consider that his various teachers should have thought long and hard before giving him the grade that they felt he deserved. So, I think you need to be very solicitous and spell out exactly why you are begging.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 8:49 PM

It totally depends on the school. If the school is truly student centered, you have a chance. If they are run by ego only, you're screwed.

Mplaw51  (Level: 176.9 - Posts: 1582)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 9:34 PM

I find it hard to believe that all is lost. Of course you must speak to the administration. I doubt you will get to speak to any teachers. They are likely unavailable until September. The guidance department should be around however. Some concessions may be made with the right game plan.

You've been told not be a screaming parent. I can't see that happening when so much is at stake. You always write in a such a cogent manner. I'm sure you will do the research that is necessary and present this to those that need to hear it.

Your son graduated with a 2.998 GPA. He is a scholar athlete who received a scholarship because of all of his hard work. He is .002 of a point from a 3.0. Is it really a deal breaker? You may need to look in that direction as well. It's clear he has committed himself to excellence and .002 isn't going to change that.

I expect that you will find yourself on the other side of this dilemma and will have won the battle. Please don't view this as some smarmy pep talk, I hate them. Based on the facts that have been presented by you, it seems logical that you can wend your way through this. Please let us know the outcome. Good luck

Smaug  (Level: 140.7 - Posts: 2772)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 10:29 PM

Well....our school website publishes contact info on all the teachers, so I emailed/begged everybody plus his guidance counselor.

He is a very popular kid....he was voted "Best Friend" as in best person to have as a friend, and as I mentioned MVP by his baseball team. I think all the teachers all really like him and understand baseball was a huge time factor. Hopefully one of them will cowboy up.

In reality, I think he is still 70-80 percent to make it happen, but it was pretty much 100% before today.....

Fudypatootie  (Level: 194.3 - Posts: 1302)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 10:31 PM

Definitely talk to his counselor and explain why the additional boost is needed. If the counselor is any good at all, he/she will look for a way to make it happen. If it absolutely cannot be changed, don't give up hope.

Next step, admissions counselor at the university. If they are willing to offer a scholarship, they will still consider it since he is so close. Explain the situation carefully and they may go ahead and give him the full ride.

The thing to remember in a situation like this is to make sure you are talking to the person who can make things happen, not some "door keeper" who doesn't have the actual authority to make the decision. If you get a "no," ask to speak to the person's supervisor and keep moving up until you find the decision-maker.

Good luck! If it was up to me, I'd round up and give it to him, but I always was a softy.

Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4286)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 11:07 PM

If you can, try to schedule an in-person conference with the counselor and/or the teacher(s) you've emailed. It's harder to turn you down in person.

Is the 2.9: this semester, this year's or the 9-12 GPA? The college should be looking at the 9-12 grade ave.

If you strike out with the HS counselor/teacher, talk to the person in charge of the scholarship and explain. You can probably get letters of support from his teachers and HS baseball coach to help with this. Because the GPA is so close, I expect this is negotiable. (If the college admissions office is involved in this decision, talk to them as well.)

Having a clean and neat 3.0 would have made it easier, but 2.9 is in no way impossible. A full scholarship is worth fighting for. Good luck.

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Thu, 3rd Jul '08 11:53 PM

WOW Smaug....
Don't know anything about the Amercan Education system
so....on a purely personal level - that must have been a big
shock for all of you. But, once you calm yourself, it seems
like just a matter of talking to the right people.
And then go find the person who gave him the incorrect
marks and have a "talk" with him/her....
And get your hair and beard cut !!!!

Townline  (Level: 54.0 - Posts: 213)
Fri, 4th Jul '08 12:17 AM

I wonder how many decimal places they round off to. 2.998 would be 3.00

Who is granting the scholarship? They may compute their own grade point and throw out things like physcial education.

Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1313)
Fri, 4th Jul '08 5:34 AM

First of all, with all your son has done and is a good citizen, he should get in. My youngest son runs track for a Division I school and is required to have only 2.0 (he has 4.0 avg.) . When he went to high school, he only had to have 1.5 GPA. If I were you I would be glad to know he is going to a place with good standards. My son was a good football player, but track got him the totally free ride. He'll be a history teacher in two years.

Bluesky  (Level: 66.9 - Posts: 150)
Fri, 4th Jul '08 10:36 AM

I would choose to call or meet with the teacher with whom your son had the best rapport and ask their suggestions. They may be able to bend, but more important is the fact that they know the climate of the school and may be able to act on your behalf. They can tell you what will work and who will bend. In a school it is who you know. Approach the situation very carefully. If you have a history of coming in and making waves it would be best to send in another relative who is calmer, will be able to play on sympathies and use all of the ammunition in a pacifistic way(sounds like an oxymoron, but...). One thing you want to do is make it sound advantageous to the school. If your son is awarded this scholarship it will be in the paper with their name as well as his. Anything that brings positive PR to the school is a selling point. Make it sound like a joint venture, "is there anything we can do to change this?" "What can we do to make this change?" All of you have something at stake and they need to be made a part of this situation. There should be no sides in this issue - you are all working toward a common goal....your son's successful future.

I hope that if the school cannot bend that the scholarship committee knows how to round numbers UP.

Best of luck!


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