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4getful1
4getful1  (Level: 185.1 - Posts: 3081)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 8:23 AM

PAPERMANBILL'S FOURS PART DEUX

Positively delightful Word Puzzle. Thanks, Bill.

foogs
Foogs  (Level: 282.5 - Posts: 847)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 10:10 AM

Results will be interesting. I had a killer that not everyone will get.

marynuala
Marynuala  (Level: 141.3 - Posts: 996)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 11:38 AM

I add my praise to the list!

pafork
Pafork  (Level: 132.0 - Posts: 536)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 12:06 PM

I think I had that killer too Foogs.

Very fun puzzle though - I hope there's a part trois!

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 166.3 - Posts: 1983)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 12:10 PM

I got that killer one too.

I'd like to ask the platinum writers to look over their phrases and if ONE phrase usies all the odd letters of the alphabet (and we all know which letters are "odd" - they're the big point winners in Scrabble), well, phrases that use more than 5 of those letters should be rethought! Especially when the other phrases are normal words with "normal" letters!

Some people get angry over verb tenses changing, I guess it burns my buns to have ONE phrase where I have to guess all 26 letters!

flcyclist
Flcyclist  (Level: 132.5 - Posts: 691)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 12:40 PM

It was a fun puzzle, except for the last one I got which had a name I have never heard of and had to use MANY letters to figure out!

salzypat
Salzypat  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 5428)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 12:55 PM

I must have missed the killer one everyone is talking about because mine were all fairly familiar ... doesn't mean I got them right away but when I guessed enough letters the light bulb went off.

I'll be interested to see the posting of all the questions and answers when this puzzle ends.

I'll be looking for similar puzzles. Enjoyed it.

zeedee
Zeedee  (Level: 235.6 - Posts: 1088)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 1:05 PM

I know that, in the long run, every WP amounts to the luck of the draw. I got the "killer" this time, too -- and other times I've lucked out and not gotten the hardest ones. But when you're stuck with the one that just seems too hard (for the first time EVER I did have to guess every last letter), it's just not fun. I don't care if we NEVER have another one like this. I do not usually complain about the WPs, but I got the "killer" puzzle first, and it spoiled my enjoyment of the other four.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 1:05 PM

I got the killer - but it was a good challenge - nice job Bill

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 1:15 PM

I got the killer also and if it was meant to be "cute" it failed miserably.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 1:35 PM

I got the killer - but I have to admit when it came up, what had been written here helped. Maybe that post should be pulled?

By helped, I don't mean I did well. I just mean I may have played differently because of it.

And I enjoyed it!

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 1:39 PM

My first puzzle was the "Killer" and I had an enormous
impulse to run to Chicago with a baseball bat !!!!
Used every D**** letter in the alphabet....
Fortunately the rest were pretty good - otherwise I'd
be there now, Mr Smarty Pants

donden
Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 1:39 PM

Figures,,,,because if one of the Sploofus editors would have included the "killer" there would be complaints, but I guess in a members puzzle it's OK. Whatever,

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 3:13 PM

Eight out of ten total giveaway puzzles and I produced the "Killer". My clues were good, not "cute". I am not getting into any lengthy discussion about this, I have just one question. Do you play word rounds and word matches, case closed.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 250.6 - Posts: 3353)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 3:17 PM

I was a double killer. Filled in all but one letter. The only real problem with a puzzle like that is that not everyone gets it, so our times are all whacked out. Hated that one a lot.

debbie1957
Debbie1957  (Level: 45.7 - Posts: 402)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 3:27 PM

Clever.

Debbie

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 203.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 4:17 PM

Wait just a minute there, missy. Didn't you out yourself a while back as PMB's one true love? Hardly an unbiased endorsement. Harrumph.

But, for cripes sake you guys, I can't believe that some of you actually sound angry over the content of a frickin word puzzle. Chill things back a little. I hope Bill posts all the puzzles tonight so I can see what all the ruckus is about, cause I didn't get anything nearly that hard. I enjoyed the WP a lot. I don't enjoy all WP's equally, but I can't see getting all pouty if one of them is too hard for me.

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 168.0 - Posts: 2291)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 4:34 PM

I thought this puzzle was uniquely excellent. Well written and clues were super. As for the nay-sayer, poo on you.

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 203.5 - Posts: 1025)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 4:36 PM

Oh man, I hate that panda poo.


kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 4:41 PM

You shouldn't get defensive Bill - I personally get really tired of seeing the same names always at the top of the top 10 - I'm always happy to be in the top 50 in a month - prefer top 20 - sometimes I see people say I don't google - but you gotta know they do when you see score/time - it's just a given - now like the comment yesterday on Revdodd's - that was horrible -

Don't take it personally - for me the killer was I thought I had it - and I didn't - it wasn't about the clue - and two of them - which I won't mention - were perfect as they were back to back for me on 1st/2nd puzzle - so I got a kick out of that because I know you couldn't have planned it

suzer22
Suzer22  (Level: 166.3 - Posts: 1983)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 5:24 PM

I thought it was a clever puzzle, with good clues.

My issue is that one phrase was phenomenally difficult in comparison to the other phrases. The other phrases had no (or maybe one) semi-obscure words and used the more common letters and were completely figure-out-able. The "killer" phrase had two words I had never heard of in my life, and several extremely uncommon letters were used. There were plenty of other choices Bill could have used to fulfill the topic and clue.

Anyone who gets this one particular phrase is at a distinct disadvantage.

That's all I'm saying. I know it's the luck of the draw, and some days I am the lucky one who doesn't get the tricky one. But I don't think an extra-tricky phrase should be included just for trickiness' sake (no that I think Bill or his editor included it for that reason). I think authors should be reminded about checking for such unbalanced phrases.

No one would have thought twice about asking editors to avoid inclusion of one such tricky phrase.

garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 294.3 - Posts: 6810)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 5:55 PM

well put all who complained about non-level playing fields.
And I dont give Liam the excuse that he could not have predicted this fuss...he could and should have!
We are not talking rocket science; use two words no one has heard of and you will get this complaint --and deserve it. Anyone who isnt complaining probably did not get this conundrum!




keithr81052
Keithr81052  (Level: 151.5 - Posts: 147)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 6:09 PM

what good is complaining? besides this wasn't nearly as bad as some of the recent wps

pepperdoc
Pepperdoc  (Level: 152.5 - Posts: 4285)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 6:32 PM

Tone is so hard to read sometimes on these threads... And, yes, I got the letter-killer... but I have to echo Dr. Ron's comments. Geesh, folks, it's just a word puzzle. In a few short hours, you'll have another one to attack with gusto.

I've been reading with interest some of the feedback that comes out after these puzzles are posted. For future WP authoring, it's very beneficial. For those who are graciously offering these kind suggestions, just remember if the shoe were on the other foot, you'd like the feedback to be of a constructive nature.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 7:07 PM

I have to agree on non-level playing fields -- and when I say I'm sick of seeing the same people always at the top, it's not begrudging them - you earn what you earn and when your better - hey - there you go.

There is no doubt in the past I've seen some pretty unlevel playing fields - and have rocked back and forth on them - going along with maybe one or two letters and then wham - not one letter and have watched myself go from a 10-15 move puzzle with zero points missing to a 3600 or 3400 gritting my teeth.

From the sounds of it, I'm wondering if I got "the killer" - I anxiously await to find out and look forward to seeing the end -



spacecat
Spacecat  (Level: 165.2 - Posts: 676)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 7:19 PM

Thank you for all the previous posts. When I got the killer WP I simply used the high value scrabble letters. Other than that it was entertaining.

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 8:05 PM

If you got the killer, there's no doubt in your mind about it.

tresgatos
Tresgatos  (Level: 217.7 - Posts: 4459)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 8:10 PM

I'm pretty sure I didn't have the so-called "killer" phrase, but I echo Dr. Ron's and Pepper's sentiments.

-- Geri

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 270.1 - Posts: 3942)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 10:10 PM

I was killed by the fact that two pieces of US currency feature guys named -A--SON, and I thought of Mr. $1000 before Mr. $20.

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 168.0 - Posts: 2291)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 10:42 PM

Loved the puzzle. Didn't get the "killer"; although I see it now and it would have killed us. However, NUMBER 2; musta been the wine!

pafork
Pafork  (Level: 132.0 - Posts: 536)
Mon, 7th Jul '08 11:02 PM

Just saw Bill's post - I definitely did NOT get 'the killer'.

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 168.0 - Posts: 2291)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 12:09 AM

Panda poo smells like White Diamonds.

praetorian
Praetorian  (Level: 162.6 - Posts: 357)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 1:05 AM

Entomologistism.

lamizell
Lamizell  (Level: 108.2 - Posts: 441)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 2:23 AM

What was the killer quartet?

revdodd
Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 6:32 AM

The sun struggles up, another beautiful day...

We're all still here and stronger for facing the killer.

Onward and upward, fellow word warriors!

jank0614
Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4593)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 8:11 AM

That which doesn't kill you, makes etc. etc.?

papajensai
Papajensai  (Level: 203.5 - Posts: 1025)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 8:33 AM

That which doesn't kill some people just makes them whiney.

revdodd
Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Tue, 8th Jul '08 8:46 AM

Boom! Well said, Ron!

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2853)
Sat, 12th Jul '08 7:19 AM

I would like to register a complaint about
something RON said....Debbie1957 was
NOT PMB's only true love!!!! I was....
until I mentioned "smoking" and Bill
rejected me....and then again when
we were discussing smoking Marijuana,
and I was rejected AGAIN !!!!

papermanbill
Papermanbill  (Level: 41.3 - Posts: 1312)
Sat, 12th Jul '08 9:39 AM

Rowlanda,
Lips that touch tobacco or Mary Jane will never touch mine. That doesn't exclude plug tobacco or snuff, though.

kaufman
Kaufman  (Level: 270.1 - Posts: 3942)
Sat, 12th Jul '08 6:00 PM

Hmmmm... I could have sworn that was you I saw kissing Spider-Man ...


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