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Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Fri, 18th Jul '08 4:10 PM


Just thought how hurtful it would be if nobody started a thread saying how much they had enjoyed someone's puzzle. Know with quiz writing had that been an option most likely would have been a bit devasted if it were a possibility and not one thread strarted on one of my quizzes-so in advance even though I never do well , I thank all of you for your puzzles and the effort involved. As an added thought to "stir the pot a bit" a time limit could be set on doing puzzles as it is in daily questions and quizzes-know this will raise hackles and, of course, does not prevent pregoogling-anyone who looks at my points and the lenghth of time I have been here will clearly see my being "top dog" days are over-have at this one and really do love you all-Linda

Keithr81052  (Level: 142.0 - Posts: 147)
Sat, 19th Jul '08 9:28 AM

I like doing the wps, and if someone does a good one they deserve the allocades they get but on the other hand if one is written that makes no sense to anyone or is so obscure most have no idea what it's about criticizm might be in order too, and in my experience criticizm is not allowed on here, it's been more of a if you can't say something good, don't say anything at all

Salzypat  (Level: 154.4 - Posts: 5295)
Sat, 19th Jul '08 10:09 AM

I'm not sure that's totally true, Keith. There was a puzzle within the last week or so that left most of us scratching our heads, and the author of that puzzle took some comments about it being too vague or not making sense. I think one can say 'sorry, just didn't get that puzzle' without being unkind or mean.

I do think if anyone has something really blunt to say about a puzzle that should be done in a private message to the author and not embarrass an individual publicly. In my career I've been on the receiving end of some public humiliation and believe me, it ain't fun.

You're correct, Heidi, after I do a puzzle I almost always try to find a thread to make a comment on the puzzle and if there isn't a thread, I'll start one.

This "island" is a retreat from the rest of the world. I just found out on Wednesday that I am being demoted (despite the boss saying it was a "new opportunity" for me), losing a title and a cut in pay. I don't want to log on to Sploofus and have someone else giving me a kick in the rear, thank you very much.

And regarding the demotion, it has some advantages, including the fact I'll be working days, no more weekends, and it has provided the incentive for me to get back to work on the Internet business I've been talking about developing. I've just kept pushing it off to the side and now I have renewed energy to get on with it.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 12:31 PM

Think negative "public" comments on someone's puzzle are as loathsome as the comments on quizzes which are now out for the world to see-sent a support ticket an know I am not the first. Writing anything quiz or puzzle no matter how easy or trite it might seem to some of you folks-takes time and effort and is the main reason this "game" exists . So if you have nothing nice to say about something written by a player would appreciate it if you kept our mouth shut-including your keyboard- Linda

Keithr81052  (Level: 142.0 - Posts: 147)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 12:48 PM

I guess that mean all free speech is to be banned from sploofus and only warm fuzzy words are allowed

Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 1:07 PM

It seemed so much easier when people were mean about Puzzles
written by the anonymous Editors----maybe it was our way of
"getting our own back" for their failure to "see our point of view"
when we blew a quiz and wanted another shot at it.............
Now that the authors are US.... and liked by us....maybe we could
send any negative comments to them via PMs

Bbear  (Level: 159.3 - Posts: 2301)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 1:12 PM

I can tell you from personal experience that although warm and fuzzies are not necessary unless warrented, it is essential to be tactful, polite and proper when saying anything. I once hurt a sweet woman's feelings terribly and absolutely didn't mean to; I just opened my big mouth and ate size 10 shoeleather. Just be nice.

However, I always appreciate constructive critism; it is how I learn and grow.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 1:15 PM

Nope - when things stay private-Fine. Just do not believe in public castration--but, of course, you are free to do as you choose. Actually you will find I seldom if ever participate in the "warm fuzzy" threads-not my thing either. If you have a point without being 'cruel" about it-by all means voice it- life is often unfair and cruel but dislike any attempts to do that deliberately. If you care to read any of my posts you will find I am often vey critical of things which some don't like-but an effort to write something which keeps this site going-good or bad-deserves a degree of respect-again as in most cases just my opinion-Linda

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 1:17 PM

Also make numerous typos lol-those who know me forgive me for this-Linda

Bigbird  (Level: 236.1 - Posts: 3300)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 1:59 PM

Rowlanda - I don't see much purpose to sending a negative comment whether the person is anonymous or not. When the editors were writing the WPs (and, apparently, they still are from time to time) they were still US - as you put it - just faceless USes. I certainly have noticed that since names have appeared on the WPs the puzzles have been viewed a lot more favorably than before they had names. Doesn't seem too cool to me to bash a WP just because you don't know who wrote it.

Seems to me, if I didn't like a WP the best action I could take is just not take another of that author's WPs - whether it was from an editor or not. At least, that is what I do with quizzes. Just don't take any more from that source.

But I don't have any need to come here and publicly rail about the WP.

Keithr81052  (Level: 142.0 - Posts: 147)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 2:20 PM

I try to take all the wps, good or bad and regardless of who authors them, if I have a critical comment I don't direct it at the author but to the content or quality of the wp. Criticism is not always a bad thing if it's deserved

Donden  (Level: 112.5 - Posts: 2127)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 3:00 PM


Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 4:03 PM

I don't even remember the puzzle - it was one that I enjoyed very much - and someone posted a comment of just
"horrible - boo!" (or something like that - I'm not going to hunt it back down)

The point is opinions are like you know whats - everyone has one - constructive criticism - privately like one person did for me after my first life quotes puzzle - is helpful (not their fault I had already turned in 2 more puzzles but I HAVE used their input in other instances and appreciated it)

Public slamming like "horrible - boo!" is uncalled for and just mean - for whatever reason it was done - to stir things up - because you don't like the writer - whatever - is certainly not the spirit of sploofus...brain food - to me which means "improving my brain" -

I always take the WP's - even when I've not liked one author's before - because they are all different - like oogies - I really didn't like the phonetic ones very well - but it was because I didn't do well on them - isn't that the end point - you don't like something because you didn't do well which is human nature. If I had applied - well I didn't do well on Oogie's phonetics so I'm not going to take any more by him - I wouldn't have taken yesterdays, but I did very well on the one from yesterday - what a great feeling that was.

My hope if of course to get better - to read constructive comments - and to apply things that people have pm'd me that are what I consider to be good suggestions in future writing.

It doesn't matter if we are standing in a public place having a face to face conversation, or it's logged forever on a forum - when someone feels like they've been publicly criticized - it leaves a mark.

A few days ago my tire went flat - it was not pretty when I found out that it was because my husband had dropped a carpenter's nail that my tire picked up (big nail) - tire not even 9 months old - it rolled over itself and sliced the tire when it went flat and I had to buy a new one.

We are standing there and the tire guy shows me the nail - talk a little - and he comes back to get my rim - I said something related to what happened and my husband says "if you don't want to be here all day waiting on your tire you need to stop talking and just let the man do his job" then laughs and kinda pats the tire guy on the back as if he is so funny.

Talk about humiliation and embarassment (not to mention his sloppiness was the reason I was standing there about to spend 100 bucks I didn't have) - I mumbled a thanks to the guy who was putting on my new tire and said to my husband:

"I hate it when you do that - you say things that make me look like a rambling idiot - laugh about it as if you are so much smarter than me and showing off to others that I'm an idiot. Don't do that ever again. I've told you that for 18 years and today is the last time."

To his credit he said he was sorry. My reply to him was "I'm aware that sometimes I may be giving unecessary information in your opinion or I might just be saying something that really doesn't matter, but if you have something to say or some input that you think my benefit me in the future from "rambling" then take it private".

I am absolutely aware that I do this sometimes, as evidenced by this post and all the information supplied - at this point I don't think what was behind my husband's comment was "oh goodie I get to humiliate and embarass Lorri and make myself look superior" - but there is no doubt that it came off like that - and sometimes it comes off that way here as well.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 4:22 PM

Sigh.......I feel for you, Lorri.

You know what, girl? I have happily found out that Yorkies, Goldens, Wire-Haired Terriers, and cats that you feed and treat nicely NEVER mock or criticize anybody. And THEY are called the animals.

Humans are the strangest of all - ESPECIALLY to the ones we're closest to, in spite of feeding and treating nicely. That's so messed up.

Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 4:28 PM

yup and animals still love you even if you have bad breath and body odor. Probably one of the main reasons I prefer my "critters" over the husband I once had-rest his soul. Not that I deliberately try to have bad breath or body odor but things happen Ah well.. lol Linda

Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 7:11 PM

you crack me up Linda

Bbear  (Level: 159.3 - Posts: 2301)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 7:14 PM

Well, my husband has never peed on my leg....

Revdodd  (Level: 68.7 - Posts: 775)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 7:56 PM

FWIW, I remeber whose WP that was, Lorri....

Never heard back when I asked for suggestions to improve it, either.

So, ya either let it roll off or puddle up. And those puddles have a habit of becoming swamps if they don't get drained occasionally.

Jank0614  (Level: 67.1 - Posts: 4597)
Sun, 20th Jul '08 10:32 PM


When I lived in Grapevine, TX. I gave piano lessons in students' homes. One of my students had a black teacup poodle who absolutely loved me (for no reason I could figure out - it was in my pre-pet days). As soon as I came in, he ran to me and ran circles around me, jumped up, lay down - and peed on himself. It was quite - well, flattering, I guess. Then all through the lesson, he would sit on my feet. Student said he never did that to anyone else.

One day I told my husband, "You know, when you come home from work, you NEVER pee on yourself from excitement to you see me!

(Now that I think of it, none of my animals has ever peed on itself in excitement to see me, either!) Humphhhhhh

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