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tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Tue, 22nd Jul '08 6:54 PM

NEW SPLOOFUS COMMENTARY

Everybody has had the new Sploofus experience for awhile, and it seemed a good idea to attempt to centrally locate views on revised version. I understand that 2.0 had been long promised, but in my view 2.0 was prematurely released. As a Beta tester, I was surprised to discover how many diminshments from the original. A few that come to mind:

1. Taking away the yellow background.
2. Taking away the ability to scroll through information, opting for presenting items in page form, lengthening time to locate information.
3. Taking away the equivalent of "Command Center", where you could see rank and points for the gamut of games in one central location.
4. Removing the ability to sort by Date Taken. I like to see which of my old quizzes may have been taken on any given day. To do that now, I have to flip through 6 pages.
5. Removing "Who's Playing" from the bottom of the screen.
6. Making it cumbersome to send private messages about a specific quiz. I know I have forgone making comments about a quiz now on many occasions -- both positive and to notify the author of incorrect information.
7. Taking away the ability to screen a message before deciding whether to open it.
8. Taking away "Leaders By Level".
9. In the Quizzes Taken section, not showing how you compared to other players by use of a percentile ranking.

iIm sure I'm missing others, and this doesn't even address new features that don't work properly. For instance the "Diff" category (which is apparently "Difficulty" of the particular quiz) shows two numbers, such as "4" or "5(0)". It's nonesense; it doesn't match the Difficulty rating on the front page of the particular quiz. The column for points a quiz is taken is also completely inaccurate under the formula of Difficulty X Author's Overall Quiz Rating. Also, Kerblunks should not be rated with Quizzes. Indeed, this is even implicitly recognized by Sploofus, Inc.;, hence, Kerblunks cannot win Editor's Awards.

I can take or leave the new games. Although I do not plan to quit the site -- it is still the best of the trivia sites I've come across -- I personally prefer the now scraped Sploofus to the new version. I don't expect improvements (givebacks(?)) soon. I mean, 2.0 was released with actual errors in the program (see the preceding paragraph) and they still haven't been fixed. The bottom line is Justin needs a day job to support his family, so Sploofus, Inc. doesn't quickly respond to user opinions. Things would likely be different if Sploofus, Inc., actually earned substantial revenue, although, ironically, the limits on the resources needed to make the site truly first rate -- money and time -- may well result in Sploofus, Inc., never generating substantial revenue.



maurlin
Maurlin  (Level: 213.3 - Posts: 2671)
Tue, 22nd Jul '08 8:39 PM

I can understand why 2.0 was released when it was. All of the non-Betas were getting extremely anxious to see what was going on with the new stuff, especially since we Beta-testers were discussing it in Chat. I just wish that some of the Bugs and suggestions were actually addressed after the 2.0 release. I certainly can see where a day-job would take priority though.

bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Tue, 22nd Jul '08 9:01 PM

There are certainly things that have to still be addressed here, but there are some really nifty (my daughter told me I was really old when I used nifty years ago - now I'm older) improvements as well.

I am a WordPuzzle freak, and the Word Puzzles go so much faster under 2.0 than under 1.0. I really enjoy the tournaments here at 2.0, and I do like the way My Sploofus gathers all your activity together.

Having a day job must really cut in to Justin's being able to get out all the bugs.

bradd
Bradd  (Level: 193.8 - Posts: 43)
Tue, 22nd Jul '08 10:52 PM

Other than the speed of WPs and the improved QOTD response, I don't see a great improvement in Sploofus 2. I agree with all the points made by TSK9653, and I thank him/her for taking the time to write them out here.

I've been here a relatively brief time, but I'm already bored with quizzes that ask, in the 97th version, who sang what song in 1982. Repitition in that way is deadly and diminishes the quality of the site, although such quizzes seem to be popular so I may be the odd man out on this. (Not specific to 2, just in general).

The picture puzzles - Who/Where Am I - are so obscure that even when they are solved I still don't connect with them.

The presentation of statistics seems to have changed for the worse - both one's own and the other players.

I wish the data bases could be more easily manipulated.





smaug
Smaug  (Level: 141.2 - Posts: 2772)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 1:31 AM

Also, the oily discharge when you logoff. Yuk!

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 8:33 AM

1. Taking away the yellow background.
>>I prefer the white - It's cleaner and makes things easier to see

2. Taking away the ability to scroll through information, opting for presenting items in page form, lengthening time to locate information.
>>Not sure I understand what part of the site this references?

3. Taking away the equivalent of "Command Center", where you could see rank and points for the gamut of games in one central location.
>>I like parts of the new command center, but concur with what is no longer there

4. Removing the ability to sort by Date Taken. I like to see which of my old quizzes may have been taken on any given day. To do that now, I have to flip through 6 pages.
>>agree 100%

5. Removing "Who's Playing" from the bottom of the screen.
>>Being able to add to friends is good - it would be nice to see friends "on" where who's playing was - I can see that having all playing would create stress on the server with the extra queries.

6. Making it cumbersome to send private messages about a specific quiz. I know I have forgone making comments about a quiz now on many occasions -- both positive and to notify the author of incorrect information.
>>agree 100% - it's not only an issue about a private message being "private" but causing spoilers for the quizzes - especially an issue for quizzes that wind up in tournaments.

7. Taking away the ability to screen a message before deciding whether to open it.
>>agree 100% - this was especially useful for me and others that are on dial-up (and even at the office on cable) - having the javascript mouseover was one of the best things about 1.0

8. Taking away "Leaders By Level".
>>agree 100% - a very big thing for me - it gave people the ability to allow themselves to compete on a smaller scale as well vs. the overall scale - i.e. I may not be number 1 overall - but I'm number 1 (2,3,4,5) on my level - gives a sense of accomplishment.

9. In the Quizzes Taken section, not showing how you compared to other players by use of a percentile ranking.
>>Good feature, but there are others I would prefer to see re-implemented first.



bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.7 - Posts: 2301)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 11:59 AM

Try the squares. I think they are really fun. Be sure to give kudos to the author if they put up pictures. I have discovered this is really time consuming and takes a lot of thought, especially if you want to make clever hints from them. No points as far as I can tell from making them and litte for taking them, but I don't care. It is just something I enjoy.

As far as Kerblunks, you can have 'em.

Quizzes. I take the more obscure ones and really look around for ones I would enjoy. Do very little music or movies; like the sciencie ones more.

Puzzles. ADDICTED. Love 'em!!! All of 'em.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 12:37 PM

To me one of the biggest issues right now is the public commentary - as Tsk & others have pointed out.

For instance - I don't often check the comments - and the majority of the time they are not submitted to me - but this one was specifically left - not sent to me - to "warn" other puzzle takers.

Clydesmaster (Level: 9.5)Sat, 12th Jul '08 11:33 PM
Obscure Bon Jovi alert!

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Honestly I don't care - but for some quizzes I've taken - the spoiler has been the complete answer - that needs to be dealt with asap.

Solve it all by only allowing comments to go to the author and not be public - and use the rating system (stars or whatever) for those who rate -



lisap369
Lisap369  (Level: 61.1 - Posts: 992)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 12:50 PM

BBear:

You do get points for authoring Trivia Squares:

6 Bbear 20.9 41,250

You are in 6th place.. refer to Leaderboards.. Trivia Square Authors

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.7 - Posts: 2301)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 2:22 PM

Wow! Neat! NOW do I get a pony? The stupid Ginzu knives rusted after one use.

toledosugar
Toledosugar  (Level: 51.4 - Posts: 281)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 3:26 PM

I must admit I was a bit surprised when I realized that any comment made on a quiz became public. Most of the time they are nice comments. Some of them are absurd, I got one yesterday from someone who said I should check my spelling on a quiz that has been up for months and has had 400+ hits. I'm sure some of you would have messaged me in the 1st 2 or 3 days to give me a heads up, if that were the case ( I really appreciate it, when you do). So I went back and checked the quiz with a fine tooth comb and couldn't come up with an error.

Sorry to get off point. There are some of you that have been extremely kind to me while I was learning and I like to do the same. If I notice an obvious error, I like to give the author a heads-up but I don't want to do it for all the world to see, it's private. So, if I have the time, I look them up and send them a private message. Most of the time, I just let it go but always feel guilty for being too lazy to look them up.
Sharyn

heidi
Heidi  (Level: 36.2 - Posts: 694)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 4:32 PM

This is why I no longer send comments to authors on their quizzes even though I know it is nice for them to know folks appreciate their efforts and care enough to let them know-I used to. Sent a support ticket and was told I was not the first to do that-already suspected that. I was told that the editors all agree that this "public" feature needs to be removed but they can't and Justin hasn't "gotten to it" yet. Hope a ost is made when he does get around to this-Linda

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Wed, 23rd Jul '08 5:08 PM

Kaelin -- I am not a computer guru so I have have used the wrong terms re my point 2. Let me try to explain. In the original Sploofus, if I wanted to go through quizzes created by, for instance, any of the Top 10 most prolific quiz authors, I could use the wheel in the center of the mouse and scroll through all of that author's quizzes from first to last without ever have to go to another screen. Now I can only see quizzes 1 to 50 (or whatever the maximum lines per page) on the first screen. Then I have to click to get to page 2, etc. This takes a lot more time and is a discouragement for quiz takers who might otherwise be interested in a particular author's "back catalog". Some author's must have 200 pages to go through to see all of their quizzes.

The thing is, I can't understand why any feature of the original Sploofus was eliminated. Presumably the code already existed for the feature so why just totally scrap it? Also, I seriously question to what extent the changes in 2.0 were the result of researching the desires of actual users. For instance, I never once heard of any complaints from players that messages sent about a quiz weren't publicly posted. In fact, I don't even remember anybody suggesting public comments as an enhancement. Now that 2.0 has public comments -- and, in fact, makes it hard to send private messages about quizzes -- I have read numerous complaints, running from no public comment feature should exist to, at least, allowing private messages to be sent as easily as public ones. Moreover, as anybody could have forseen, some takers leave public comments that give away answers; yet, as I understand the current situation, only Justin is allowed to purge a public message. I bet very few -- if any -- public comment has been deleted.

sploofus
Justin  
Thu, 24th Jul '08 5:19 PM

I think the public comments system will be eliminated by default. I'll revert things to the "old way", but allow a textbox just in case someone wants to leave comments that will appear on the quizzes landing page.

i.e.
A textbox

Then a selection of two buttons (defaulted to the first):

- Send a private comments to this quiz author
or
- Add a comment to this quizzes public page

If one selects the second options, the comment will be posted to the public page AND PM'ed to the author.

Justin


garrybl
Garrybl  (Level: 280.2 - Posts: 6643)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 5:21 PM

Justin:

Re default messaging; Thanks!
Barry



bigbird
Bigbird  (Level: 239.6 - Posts: 3302)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 6:12 PM

Yes! Thank you for making it easier to leave private comments.!

4getful1
4getful1  (Level: 176.0 - Posts: 2926)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 6:23 PM

Justin,

Thank you for all you have done, are doing, and will do for the Sploofus Family. We really do appreciate you.

Brenda

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 6:36 PM

Hope you had a good holiday Justin, and that you had
a good rest and enjoyed your family time together.
By the looks of these posts....you're going to need
another break after all these comments have been
attended to...

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 6:41 PM

Justin

If you do that - I think you need to give the author of the puzzle the ability to delete the public as well.

Just as we see when an editor comes in and deletes an over enthusiastic post by someone giving away clues for an existing puzzle...the point will still exist where people will post something publicly on purpose because it's the nature of some people - they like to stir a little trouble - see what happens.

For the fact that it says "YOUR TRIVIA QUIZ WILL END IF YOU LEAVE THIS PAGE" -- for instance - everything you have put in place is to protect the integrity of the quiz, the work of the author and the assurance that each quiz is allowed to be taken fairly by each individual as far as you can control (not taking into account second accounts etc) - the ability to post comments of any kind other than a set rating system that you control what displays - leaves it open --

Here's a thought - do the "start system" - IF the person who took the quiz wants the person whose quiz they took to know what they scored them - let that show - you control the veribage - they control the sentiment - no spoilers...that would work for me...

Anyway - just a thought.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 6:43 PM

"star" system - still dehydrated up to my eyballs - sorry...I think I'll shut up for the day.

rowlanda
Rowlanda  (Level: 70.0 - Posts: 2856)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 7:02 PM

Kaelin,
Try drinking GATORADE which will replenish the mineral salts you are sweating out.
They used to give us that at Chrysler when I worked there for the Summer----and it
was a big help and energy builder.
I buy the powdered stuff and mix it up when needed....much cheaper.
Also, V8 would help....
as these mineral salts are vital to Life.

bbear
Bbear  (Level: 161.7 - Posts: 2301)
Thu, 24th Jul '08 9:59 PM

Kaelin: it is "default" of de sun. Justin will fix this, as he fixes all things important. Drink water with a bit of salt in it; you will be all better

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Fri, 25th Jul '08 7:10 PM

I used to enjoy following the number of subscribers -- albeit never a large number -- that I had for my quizzes. This is another feature eliminated from original Sploofus.

kaelin
Kaelin  (Level: 49.2 - Posts: 1685)
Fri, 25th Jul '08 8:06 PM

Oh yeah - forgot about that - it's always nice to know how popular you are - I know I was in the dregs at 17 I think - but they were MY 17!

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Sat, 26th Jul '08 7:13 PM

Also, although I like that you can edit "in queue' quizzes, I dislike the fact that the Introduction to quizzes can no longer be edited after the quiz goes live.

bushyfox
Bushyfox  (Level: 174.4 - Posts: 2403)
Sat, 26th Jul '08 7:17 PM

Tsk....I *think* you could send in a Support ticket and ask an editor to edit your quiz description.....???

~Bev

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Sat, 26th Jul '08 7:36 PM

That could work, but in old Sploofus it was unnecessary to send in a support ticket for that purpose, and editor's time could be spent on other matters. Again, 2.0 makes a change from original Sploofus that takes away control from users. Perhaps there was a problem with some of the editing? I don't know, but the change, in my view, is not an improvement. If there is a logical explanation for the change, I know I'd likely feel better about the change if I knew the reason.

tsk9653
Tsk9653  (Level: 113.2 - Posts: 1466)
Wed, 30th Jul '08 5:43 PM

I have determined that quiz authors are being shorted points when their quizzes are taken because of a system error in new Sploofus. (I have started another thread on this issue, because it is an actual error that affects the integrity of the competitive system.)


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