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greyghost
Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 11:03 AM

MISTAKE.RE"SPELLING"

Hi all,just want to "say sorry" to those who have taken my quiz"spelling with a twist"guess there was a wrong spelling as answer.can't understand how it slipped by .agains i am sorry,all fixed now.

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Sat, 28th Jan '06 11:11 AM

Even with the thorough new editing system, a mistake can occasionally still slip by if the editor misses it, or forgets to hit their update button.

Dont worry Greyghost, everybody makes a mistake or two and launches a quiz.


jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 11:47 AM

Actually there are three in that quiz.
I also took four other quizzes by other authors just now and found errors in every one - not fussy spelling errors in the question, but fundamental errors that affect the answers.
Maybe we should start talking about a limit for the number of quizzes we can write, and the number that the clearly overworked editors can 'own' at any given time.
I understand the editors are working fast to keep us happy, but we risk getting back to pre-editor standards if the sample I just encountered is any indication.
2 cents.

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 11:57 AM

When I went through SPC training, one of the things that was pointed out is the best inspectors catch 80% of all mistakes. That is why critical work has layers of inspection.

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 12:34 PM

Yes, Tuz, the translation work I do involves a minimum of two layers of inspection precisely for this reason. But since Sploofus quizzes are not product warning labels or court transcripts or scientific essays, one level is already an extraordinary thing for a trivia site, something Sploofus should be proud of.
What i was suggesting is that too few editors are checking too many quizzes too fast to accomodate the too many quizzes we're writing.
That could be remedied by either limiting the number of quizzes that we can write and/or that editors can own, or simply slowing down the editing process.
Ive complained in the past for approval delays, and promise to do so no more. If we all get it into our heads that it takes at least a week for a quiz to make it through the editing process, then everyone can take a deep breath and do a better job, con calma as the italians say.

Sploofus Editor
Sploofishy (Editor)  
Sat, 28th Jan '06 12:41 PM

If it was "Spelling with a Twist Number 3", then I edited it and I unfortunately missed the mistake or forgot to hit the update button. My apologies, I'm still learning everything I need to do.

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Sat, 28th Jan '06 2:06 PM

Also, remember: Editors do not get to know the "right" answer when they're editing a quiz...So on a quiz with intentional spelling errors, it can be difficult to notice that all five answers are misspelled.

The Sploofinator

jedley
Jedley  (Level: 34.2 - Posts: 278)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 2:09 PM

Very good point!

mrsgc
Mrsgc  (Level: 10.0 - Posts: 231)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 2:59 PM

I hope you notified the author of the quiz jedley.
I think it would be a shame for people to be discouraged from making quizzes.
Obviously in a quiz about spelling it is important but on some subjects it does not matter provided the question is understandable.
I have done far worse in quizzes because I have no knowledge of American products, television etc. than because of a misspelt word.

rev66
Rev66  (Level: 86.4 - Posts: 85)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 3:43 PM

Thanks for your responses in this thread. I was wondering if it was acceptable to send a correction to the author of a quiz where one finds a mistake.

greyghost
Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 3:49 PM

good heavens,please do.feedback is always welcome.ty all for being so understanding.tc,hagd,be safe.
Karen

phlenin
Phlenin  (Level: 17.8 - Posts: 22)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 4:17 PM

I made a Steelers quiz and the first five guys who took it were pretty annoyed. I accidentally gave two right answers for one of the questions (I'm a new baby football fan -- and a girl, eek!) Even though the rating of my quiz was immediately in the toilet as a result, 4 of them were nice enough to message me and let me know about the mistake (which I IMMEDIATELY remedied). One of them even said something nice DESPITE my mistake. AND, the editor who approved my next Steelers quiz (which had to be returned to me for lack of date on dated info) was very encouraging and really really nice.

I guess my point is, we all make mistakes, but I've noticed that the Sploofus 'community' as a whole is very nice and forgiving.

I love being a part of it!

~Happy Phlen

Sploofus Editor
(Editor)  
Sat, 28th Jan '06 5:04 PM

It has been said in the past, but now is a good time to restate it.

The main reason editors were put in place is to check for plagiarism because of letters and calls from lawyers representing sites that had been plagiarised by quiz writers. That is still our number one concern. And it can be time consuming, hence the stack in the queue. Some popular quiz subjects already have over 1000 quizzes on the Internet.

After that we check spelling, punctuation and try to keep quizzes with the formating rules in the quiz writer's guide. Most of you do a great job, and I mean it. Everyone makes occasional typos. I get quizzes back on occasion, just like you might.

We do NOT check accuracy of answers for two reasons. One, we cannot see the correct answer to the author selected. Two, we are not experts on all subjects. If you get a answer correct caught by an author, then you were generally lucky it went to an editor who happened to know the subject.

greyghost
Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 6:33 PM

tyvm for understanding,and i agree.with that type of quiz,it would take forever to check.no more of them,lol.Sploofus has been more than tollerant.i thank them for it.

greyghost
Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 7:39 PM

is there any way i can "haul out a quiz",this one is killing me.(spelling with a twist(3).i am taking major heat

mrsgc
Mrsgc  (Level: 10.0 - Posts: 231)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 10:57 PM

i have posted else where on a different thread aboout my normal procedure if I spot an error. I try t stick to the following -
- Obviously be polite in your reply.
-State the question or questions you have a problem with and why.
- If possible take a few minutes to find at least one site that contains the information as you believe it to be correct.

I have only had cause to contact authors a few times regarding errors but I have not had any bad reaction from them using this method.

I personally am grateful if someone points out something to me . I have visual problems and even though I write my quizzes in Word using a large font and paste them in mistakes happen. As we all know spellcheckers have their limitations - one example is it would accept dad and I may mean dead - in the middle of a lot of text the two words would look similar to me.
And then there is the old problem of - I know what it is meant to say so my brain sees it as correct when I read it .

So now you can see it is an act of God that any of my quizzes get past the Editors without hundereds of rewrites but if the odd error slips through then a personal message will deal with it and be quite welcome. lol

greyghost
Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Sat, 28th Jan '06 11:44 PM

i agree,and i have to say that 90% are understanding,but the other 10%?,No comment

tuzilla
Tuzilla  (Level: 134.0 - Posts: 3777)
Mon, 30th Jan '06 7:10 PM

Anyway you cut it, I am just grateful to the volunteers who try to make up for my poor typing skills and nudge my quizzes into launchable form. Still, the best editors are the quiz taker who volunteer their time to send a polite note pointing out errors that do get past the editors and into the public arena. I always thank them and fix the error as quickly as possible. Rude comments from people do nothing to improve quizzes, and generallty tell you more about the person than the error. They are why I tend to avoid writing quizzes in a couple different areas.

greyghost
Greyghost  (Level: 68.4 - Posts: 640)
Mon, 30th Jan '06 9:18 PM

Well said Tuz.I would never want their job.I salute them all.


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